[SOLVED] Netgear R7800 vs Netgear XR500?

voyboy488

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Need me one of these routers for qos and to shape download/upload to reduce bufferblaot and because two computers game ethernet. Also need the wifi range for cameras front of the house.

Also have gigablast (1000 mbps from COX).

For XR500 I definitely like the DumaOS and feel like it would be a perfect fit for me as I don't have to flash the firmware, can just set up the qos, shape up the bandwidth and should be set from their. Will also mess around with the geofilter feature which sounds pretty dope. No firmware flash is needed in this case

For R7800 definitely going to flash it to OpenWRT and enable SQM and enable shaping (pfSense)

Basically only difference is going to come down to OpenWRT vs DumaOS

For DumaOS it will eliminate the need for me to flash firmware + geofilter option is super interesting to me as sometimes in COD I get matches in 30 MS games and other times 60 MS games I would rather eliminate this issue (I prefer this cos I don't have too much time right now to search into how to flash firmware and set up everything)

For R7800 I am gona have to flash it which isn't the problem for me but it just means I gotta put some time to learn how to flash + how to set up SQM + pfSense

Didn't mention this but which of these is the best for 5 Ghz wifi?
 
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If you have a gigabit internet connection and you want to use any form of traffic control/QoS you need to go with a completely different plan.

Modern routers have a ability to move the NAT function off the main cpu. This allows traffic to bypass the CPU and they can get simple NAT translated traffic at gigabit speeds. To use the feature you want the CPU must process the traffic so in addition to the NAT function you have now added your QoS or whatever. Even the fastest router you will cap your bandwidth to say 250-300mbps because the CPU in routers is way too small.

You are going to have to use a actual PC or at least a "router" that uses much more powerful cpu.

Part of your problem is you are being conned by the testing...
If you have a gigabit internet connection and you want to use any form of traffic control/QoS you need to go with a completely different plan.

Modern routers have a ability to move the NAT function off the main cpu. This allows traffic to bypass the CPU and they can get simple NAT translated traffic at gigabit speeds. To use the feature you want the CPU must process the traffic so in addition to the NAT function you have now added your QoS or whatever. Even the fastest router you will cap your bandwidth to say 250-300mbps because the CPU in routers is way too small.

You are going to have to use a actual PC or at least a "router" that uses much more powerful cpu.

Part of your problem is you are being conned by the testing sites. They will find buffbloat on a ALL connections. Bufferbloat is caused by the ISP putting data into a buffer when you exceed your bandwidth.

If you never exceed your bandwidth you will never get bufferbloat. Of course your are going to see bufferbloat if you run a test tool that can overload even a 1gbit connection.

If you in real life can overload a gigabit connection you have a serious issue.

Pretty much you should never need any form of QoS on a very fast connection. Data will never be queued so there is no need to make a selection between which traffic is more important.

I do not know what the geo filter is but you have to decide if you are willing to give up the speed to get the feature. Third party firmware can not do the NAT cpu bypass trick because the vendors have not licensed or released the drivers you need to do this. And that is just loading it not even attempting to use features that require the data to pass through the CPU.
 
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