Never built a comp before, need help with componets and any tips

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hi, im considering building a new gaming pc for myself. Im only 15 thou so i dont possess to much knowledge on computer stuff even thou i know more than the average person. I was looking around new egg and came up with these componets, my budget(parents budget really) is $1300-1500 including monitor, keyboard etc. and wont be upgrading anything in like at least 8 months if lucky. So heres my build, not perfect yet for its over my budget it seems so needs some tweaking anyways, and ill also appreaicate any tips/steps/guides/info on how to build a comp for begninners etc. , so enough talking heres my stuff (EDITING)


CPU:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115028

Motherboard: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813141002

Case:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811156180

PSU:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817190012

GPU:http: www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814150227

Hard drive:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822136073

Monitor:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824005096

Optical drives x2: http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151153

Memory x2(4gb total): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220144

lol floppy:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16821103203

Card reader:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820223073

Keyboard+mouse:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16823126174

Crappy speakers but cheap ,o well: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16836131013


Subtotal:$1,584.85 excluding taxes and $40 shipping REBATES:$140 im pretty sure, cant check my other window for the newegg page froze up, this comp im using can even handle 2 windows up at once it seems, so the minium i need to get it down to is at least like $1500, so it needs some tweaking, but otherwise, what do you think? DO you also think i can build this comp on my own? Thanks in advance for your help


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yea im trying this comp im using is sooo slow and laggy it is very hard and i knew the link wouldnt work lol just trying to buy some time
 

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dam laggy computer only shows half your post for like 5 mins lol okie ill check those out

EDIT: if i would get that GPU it would add more total money over my budget so i need things that would cost around the same price or a entirely new build from scratch with the $1300-1500 budget
 

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get the 8800 gts...but why not get the 640, it is more cash but much more versatile with the larger resolution.

For an e6850 you might regret the 8600 GPU and possibly the 320 GTS...so pay a few bucks extra and get the 640.

Do you NEED 4 GB of ram? the diff will pay for the GPU upgrade (mostly).
 

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I still have not a clue why everyone says that. The 640 only beats the 320 on resolutions higher then 1900x1200 by even a small margin. Gaming with a screen that does 1600+by say 1200 or 1050 the 640 version will only be games by a handful of fps. Meaning that the extra 100 dollars is not worth the purchase. Also that 8800gts that I picked out is even the overclocked version.
 

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hmm i dont like the case much , its kinda dull, but any reason to why you chose these? Is there problems with the XFX 680i motherboard i should know about? Okie with the memory, psu i guess, dont like the case much as i said(yea im picky lol , wanted something that looked cool like with blue lights and clear side panel etc.)The Vid card too is nice. I liked the motherboard since i like the XFX company for some reason , i just would like to know the faults of my picks and the better benefits from those that you picked. Also not sure sure if i said this but are those stuff easier to install since this will be my first build? Sorry bout all the questions its just that i dont want to mess up this build for itll be my only one for a long long time.
 

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Regardless of what you finally get, everything installs the same way, i.e., one isn't easier to install than another. The one thing to make sure of is that the mobo will take the GPU, i.e., that nothing will block a physically bigger GPU. Also keep in mind that you can always upgrade later, .e.g, you can always put a more powerful PSU in the case you originally chose, upgrade the video card, or CPU. This is the advantage of building
 

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You can save money by getting the right parts.

E6850 to E6750, you just saved $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029&Tpk=E6750

Mobo: GA-P35-DS3R you just saved $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=gigabyte+ga-p35-ds3r&x=14&y=29

You just saved $150 that you could put into your GPU. You just have to know where to trim the fat. "You will not notice the difference between the E6850 and the E6750." I had to drop my overclock of E6600 @3.7GHz because my PC case is horrible at cooling my components and can not resume my OC until I get a better case.
 

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looks nice but to bad that motherboard only has one PCIx16 slot so i cant SLi in the future once my card will become old(talking bout in like 4 or 5 years from now) anyways, im kinda rethinking building this comp, im not 100 percent sure i can pull it off, im one of those people that if i turn it on after ive built it and it doesnt work, i would get very mad , try to fix it and fail(never happened with building a comp cuz i never built a comp but got mad after i ruined my wireless router after playing with it{not physically} and just leave it and regret buying all those parts and not just buying one from a retail store. So ima see if i still feel the same way about this in the next 1-2 days and try to rethink if i can do it or not,i know it looks kinda easy but everything seems to wrong in my life when i want it to go right so much ,thats one reason i feel like that, ill be looking at more guides to try to figure it all out and stuff
 

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Thanks! That's the best laugh I got this week :lol: :lol:

Seriously now, SLI 5 years from now with two of today's cards? That's like me putting two GeForceMX 4000 in SLI today... All games would still refuse to install because the MX doesn't have Shader Model 3. If one does install, it will still not work well because 1 MX gives 0.02 fps and 2 MX in SLI gives 0.03 fps. Come on, in 5 years you'll be able to buy a $100 card that will do better than two 8800 Ultra cards together, and it will have DirectX 14 or whatever those games will need.
 

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didnt mean the 8800, anyways im still playing around in newegg getting the total plus tax and shipping and after rebates to come down to $1500
 

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okie i think i got it now, perfectly $1500, but culnt add in the XMS memory but wuts the diff from Patriot eXtreme, i heard that diff brands are good for OC'ing but i dont know how so i dont need to, changed the mobo and gpu, same case , monitor and everything else execpt the cpu and mobo


CPU:Intel core 2 duo E6750, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115029

Mobo: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131142

so these 2 plus just about everything in the first post is exaclty everything i would buy to build this comp thou i heard you have to buy the OS system, but my friends uncles friend lol just uses this cd to install windows in his old comps and it doesnt look offical or anything, wondering if that would work or something, cuz it seems that XP or vista is like $120 more dollars
 

aevm

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Ummm, your "friends uncles friend" will get in trouble if Microsoft catches him. Also, he doesn't get upgrades and patches and he's exposed to higher risk of malware. You know, the sort of crap that captures bank account numbers and passwords for example. I'd pay the $120 even if it's just for that.

The Patriot OC's well.


So what have you got now? (Text please, too lazy to follow 15 links on dial-up)

 

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Get this mobo instead : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

It's relatively future proofed.

If you want a "Flashy" case instead of a dull one, look at this one :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144170

The 8600 series is a joke. In most cases they are slower than 7 series cards, because their memory interface is only 128bit. It is a lot more beneficial to get at least an 8800gts.

Do you really NEED 500gb? You can save at least 25$ with going with this Seagate model :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148140

You don't need 4gb of ram. I can't believe you want that much ram and yet don't want to get a better video card. 4gb of ram will only be 3.5gb in regular XP anyways. Drop it to 2gb, and you save yourself 110$ to put into something else.

I don't recommend a card reader either. You can save even more money in the long run without one. Most devices with cards in them come with USB hookups, and more than likely you have a USB cord laying around.

Finally, for the CPU. You're joking right? I see no reason to spend 300$ on a dual core. For 10$ less you can get a quad core and be happy for a long time. If you want to save even more money then just get a 2.13ghz E6420 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016

It may help you to reexamine how you are looking for parts. It's a lot better to have a well rounded system than to spend a ton on a couple parts then go skimpy on others. As it is now, your machine really isn't that great for gaming. I just built a system for 1100$ (check my hardware spec sheet) and if you need a monitor/optical drives you will spend at max 1400$...and still have a better system than what you picked out.

Sorry if I sounded mean, but hopefully you will learn a little bit.

EDIT: And if you don't have your own OS already, you should find some way to get your own. Taking someone elses really isn't ideal and is a good way to run into trouble somewhere down the line. Buying an OS is a good investment. It doesn't seem like it at the time because 120$ is a lot...but I've been using my copy of XP for over four years now so it really is worth it.
 

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Let me share something with you about SLI, if you were to get an 8800GTX now and later (1-2 years) get another 8800GTX by that time anything you buy 1-2 years from now one next gen card can be upto 2-3 times faster than both of your cards in SLI. There is suposed to be a new card from Nvidia this November thats claimed to be 2.5-3 times faster the one 8800GTX.

I have had lots of friends say that they will go SLI (add a second card) in 6-8 months from now, but you know what not one ever did because something new and better came out. Future proof, theres no such thing. The 8800 series has only been out little more than half a year now and hear comes Nvidia with newer cards. People that should go SLI are the guys that like playing games at 1900x1200 and get both cards at the same time. I will never go SLI and its not that I can't afford it its that I don't believe people should have to buy two cards to play a games whatever the resolution. With one 8800GTX you should be able to play most games at 1900x1200. Hope this helps you.
 

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Link please.
 

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You've been around long enough to know what I mean. How about a link to a credible source with actual benchmarks? Otherwise all you are doing is spreading dis-information. (er, FUD)

I have not been able to find a credible source, and my 6800 ultras are getting old and tired. So I am looking. Rumour has it that whatever Nvidia releases next will be a mid-range GPU. But that's just rumour.









 

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O yea above when i chose a new cpu/mobo (the new cpu i chose this round, the e6750 is $200)i forget to say i included the XFX 8800 gts 320 not 8600, but now i gota try to get that all down to $1500 including OS system, im guessing you all would reccomend Windows XP since vista aint stable yet right? Ill try and add what you guys are adding and repost everything again, also just wondering why is everyone suggesting a differnt case, isnt a case just a case right? Just for looks plus the cooling inside? Sorry im new to building a comp as you all know so i dont know if theres another reason.
 

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