Question New and fast Game PC build for RTX 3080?

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StanislavNew

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Hello, I would like to have some build for RTX 3080 (TI?). Not sure I will buy by component or pre-build but based on GPU cost I may buy components with integrated card and wait for 3080. Anyway, im really confused with components as Im not expert. For beggining i dont understand why PCIe4 is much better than PCIe5 (RAM CLs etc.). Can you please help me out and advise what should I choose (range) and why? PC should be primary for new games where I would like to have minimum loading times and of course maximum performance.

MB - any?

CPU - 5+ GH in turbo? Should I take care about non-turbo too? Intel / Ryzen? Confused there - https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html - here I can see very minimal difference between 5 5600x and 9 5950 - but 9 5950 has more than double price. So where I can see difference? DDR5 / Alder lake what I hear doesnt make sense to buy due to overprice and also DDR4/pciexp 4 now is better? Also confusion, why DD5 PCIe5 is not 2x faster, 2x better?? Some numbers showing that but test seems similar as 4. Integrated graphics - will be there lost performance / negative impact if I will have int. g but will not use it? (figuring out if I can buy integrated and exchange in future for 3080)

HDD - also confused, based on following i understand there is non difference between (https://www.techspot.com/review/2116-storage-speed-game-loading/) - I can see loading times for example 27-30sec - the question is can I reduce it to for ex. 20sec? I think only three possible solution - Raid somehow or components choosing - or mix both. So what can affect loading speed, its possible to achieve some better times?

RAM confused again. I read freq. is limited by processor so if processor support 3200 I can buy 3600 RAM but it will not have affect. I read only important is lowest CLs - true?


Possibility for overclocking - i read for example its possible to reduce CLs for RAM etc (dont want dangerous) - what affect in number I can achieve?

Do you know any PC comparison where I can see different builds with components and loading times? I found only comparison with FPS etc...

Thank you a lot and appologize for maybe longer text
 
Just seems like a lot of effort for 6% gain but I don't overclock.
This ^^
Its a reasonable difference and its basically free performance, if you care to grab for it you mind as well.
OC is going the way of the dinosaur. Figure the cost of a decent Z690 board + cpu cooling + unlocked cpu and it's become a rich man's game anymore. Pair that cpu up down below with a $40 air cooler and you're good to go.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144522
MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 $179.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $329.88

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-WIFI-DDR4


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This ^^

OC is going the way of the dinosaur. Figure the cost of a decent Z690 board + cpu cooling + unlocked cpu and it's become a rich man's game anymore. Pair that cpu up down below with a $40 air cooler and you're good to go.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144522
MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 $179.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $329.88

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-WIFI-DDR4


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I am well aware of the gen on gen diminishing returns of manual overclocking as companies push their stock chips turbo algorithm's as far as they can to remain competitive. I was making the case here because the OP was set on getting a K sku CPU and Z690 motherboard which means he mind as well get what he is paying for if he cares to put forth the effort for an OC however small the performance gains may be.
 
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StanislavNew

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Thx for the KF, my friend sent me it and i just copy paste :).

So the last one is following. I know, Why_Me mentioned about cheaper possibility without overclock but as this will be my Precious for couple years I want to give it bit more than standard :). On another way i think i didnt fully understand about dinsoaur etc as my english is not so strong. Also looked on F processor and didnt see in any comparison charts, so I 12700k seems better to me

Who nows, maybe my Friend will be able to overclock up to 7 GH :)))).

So any another comments to following?

https://www.czc.cz/intel-core-i7-12700k/330921/produkt
https://www.czc.cz/gigabyte-z690-gaming-x-intel-z690/336843/produkt
https://www.czc.cz/seasonic-focus-gx-850-850w/305099/produkt
https://www.czc.cz/kingston-fury-renegade-black-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-3600-cl16/330222/produkt
https://www.czc.cz/nzxt-kraken-x53-2x120mm/280878/produkt
https://www.czc.cz/samsung-ssd-970-evo-plus-m-2-1tb/253493/produkt
https://www.czc.cz/fractal-design-define-r5-cerna/163517/produkt
+3080 (or 3080TI) in future
 
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