News New Bambu Lab flagship 3D printers delayed until 2025 — model aims to add "previously impossible" features

[Admin]

Bambu Lab has announced the delay in the release of its planned 2024 flagship. The delay is due to ensuring compatibility and support worldwide, but the printer has been promised to be a trailblazer in many respects.

New Bambu Lab flagship 3D printers delayed until 2025 — model aims to add "previously impossible" features : Read more

 

[Heiro78]

What is the new printer they are working on? No info on it? I'm looking to get a Prusa XL due to the build volume. I really wanted to get a X1 but the build volume is lower than my current one.

 

[USAFRet]

What is the new printer they are working on? No info on it? I'm looking to get a Prusa XL due to the build volume. I really wanted to get a X1 but the build volume is lower than my current one.

They've not really given any details on this new flagship.

I have an X1-Carbon, and love it.

 

[Conor Stewart]

What is the new printer they are working on? No info on it? I'm looking to get a Prusa XL due to the build volume. I really wanted to get a X1 but the build volume is lower than my current one.

The Prusa XL is expensive if all you need is the build volume. If you need the multiple toolheads then it makes more sense but is still very expensive.

 

[jp7189]

What is the new printer they are working on? No info on it? I'm looking to get a Prusa XL due to the build volume. I really wanted to get a X1 but the build volume is lower than my current one.

The Bambu CEO said (in June I think), the design of the Bambu XL had been finalized and they were testing it with an eye on a 2024 release. It is expected to be a larger volume, fully enclosed printer.

 

[jp7189]

The Prusa XL is expensive if all you need is the build volume. If you need the multiple toolheads then it makes more sense but is still very expensive.

Depends on what you print. I dont think i could ever go back to an open frame/top printer. I print mostly ABS and the X1C does fantastic with that. I chalk that up to the enclosed build chamber. Previous printers resulted in a lot of warping and failed prints with large ABS pieces. Enclosing the XL is possible, but needs a big top with a lot of air volume that I doubt would ever really get passively heated.

Also, frankly the AMS seems like a simpler, easy to repair solution for material switching. Yeah it's more wasteful, but how much filament would I have to water before I equal the cost of the XL?

I do sometimes wish for a larger build volume, but there are workarounds for that.

 

[gggplaya]

The Bambu CEO said (in June I think), the design of the Bambu XL had been finalized and they were testing it with an eye on a 2024 release. It is expected to be a larger volume, fully enclosed printer.

He also said the XL will need to be a next generation design, not a scaled up version of the current X1. Since this Q1 2025 model will be a next gen printer, it seems plausible it's the XL model.

Depends on what you print. I dont think i could ever go back to an open frame/top printer. I print mostly ABS and the X1C does fantastic with that. I chalk that up to the enclosed build chamber. Previous printers resulted in a lot of warping and failed prints with large ABS pieces. Enclosing the XL is possible, but needs a big top with a lot of air volume that I doubt would ever really get passively heated.

Also, frankly the AMS seems like a simpler, easy to repair solution for material switching. Yeah it's more wasteful, but how much filament would I have to water before I equal the cost of the XL?

I do sometimes wish for a larger build volume, but there are workarounds for that.

Any printer, even the cheapest printers are relatively trouble free with PLA. But yes, when you get into more exotic materials, Bambu really shines. I have the X1c, and finally I don't need to babysit the printer and there's no more anxiety over a failed print, especially for expensive exotic filament. I've been printing in alot of high temp carbon fiber reinforced materials, the only thing I have to do is make sure I use enough glue to keep it adhered to the plate. All I have to do is dry it with my dryer, then run the auto calibration and auto flow calibration. It just works!!!

 

[Skramblr]

I came to the article to see what are these "previously impossible" features and the article doesn't talk about that at all. That article needs a link to whatever article talks about this, or it really should be changed. Or was it intentional (click bait)?

 

[gggplaya]

I came to the article to see what are these "previously impossible" features and the article doesn't talk about that at all. That article needs a link to whatever article talks about this, or it really should be changed. Or was it intentional (click bait)?

I highly doubt you'll know what these "previously impossible" features are until Bambu makes a formal product announcement in 2025. If I were them, I wouldn't let my competitors know, giving them 4-6 months to catch up.

 

[jp7189]

He also said the XL will need to be a next generation design, not a scaled up version of the current X1. Since this Q1 2025 model will be a next gen printer, it seems plausible it's the XL model.



Any printer, even the cheapest printers are relatively trouble free with PLA. But yes, when you get into more exotic materials, Bambu really shines. I have the X1c, and finally I don't need to babysit the printer and there's no more anxiety over a failed print, especially for expensive exotic filament. I've been printing in alot of high temp carbon fiber reinforced materials, the only thing I have to do is make sure I use enough glue to keep it adhered to the plate. All I have to do is dry it with my dryer, then run the auto calibration and auto flow calibration. It just works!!!

I went from an expensive bcn3d to the x1c. I still remember the first print in ABS, I used all defaults without touching a thing. It was moving so fast on the first layer that I was sure it would fail. On layer 2 it picked up the pace to the point I was sure it would be an epic fail because I *knew* it was impossible to move ABS that fast. Needless to say it printed perfectly with a level of quality I never achieved with bcn after years of tinkering. I just clean the plate with a swipe of acetone from time to time, and lube some parts whenever the machine asks me to. It's the first printer I've never even considered tinkering with or "upgrading" parts.

 

[Heiro78]

The Prusa XL is expensive if all you need is the build volume. If you need the multiple toolheads then it makes more sense but is still very expensive.

The multiple tool heads only come in handy for me due to the less scrap. My prints are all single color material types. A X1 XL would be amazing

 

[Heiro78]

I went from an expensive bcn3d to the x1c. I still remember the first print in ABS, I used all defaults without touching a thing. It was moving so fast on the first layer that I was sure it would fail. On layer 2 it picked up the pace to the point I was sure it would be an epic fail because I *knew* it was impossible to move ABS that fast. Needless to say it printed perfectly with a level of quality I never achieved with bcn after years of tinkering. I just clean the plate with a swipe of acetone from time to time, and lube some parts whenever the machine asks me to. It's the first printer I've never even considered tinkering with or "upgrading" parts.

What do you use for support? I'm looking to also print ABS and use SR-30 as a soluble support since I regularly have prints with features that breakaway support could cause harm. Specifically, I don't want to introduce that pain point to my users in having to carefully remove the support versus putting the parts in a bath.

 

[Heiro78]

The Prusa XL is expensive if all you need is the build volume. If you need the multiple toolheads then it makes more sense but is still very expensive.

Also, what would you suggest instead of the Prusa XL for a large build volume, reliable printer, and that prints fast in the range of the X1 and Prusa XL?

 

[gggplaya]

What do you use for support? I'm looking to also print ABS and use SR-30 as a soluble support since I regularly have prints with features that breakaway support could cause harm. Specifically, I don't want to introduce that pain point to my users in having to carefully remove the support versus putting the parts in a bath.

Bambu sell support ABS: https://us.store.bambulab.com/collections/bambu-lab-3d-printer-filament/products/support-for-abs

It breaks away much easier. $15 for 0.5kg is not bad compared to water dissolvable support which is very expensive. But also consider that you're only supposed to use it for the INTERFACE between your print and the support. So 0.5kg will last a very long time. As you can see in the picture, it's the white stuff between the support and print.

 

[jp7189]

What do you use for support? I'm looking to also print ABS and use SR-30 as a soluble support since I regularly have prints with features that breakaway support could cause harm. Specifically, I don't want to introduce that pain point to my users in having to carefully remove the support versus putting the parts in a bath.

In short, I don't have any direct advice. I try to reduce supports as much as possible with orientation or even breaking the model in to pieces. When I do use supports, I just use break away supports in ABS. Simple acetone can weld pieces and smooth imperfection if sanding isn't a good option.

 

[jp7189]

Also, what would you suggest instead of the Prusa XL for a large build volume, reliable printer, and that prints fast in the range of the X1 and Prusa XL?

If your down for a project, there are some interesting voron kits that can be fully enclosed, and I think I saw one with rails up to 500mm

 

[Heiro78]

Bambu sell support ABS: https://us.store.bambulab.com/collections/bambu-lab-3d-printer-filament/products/support-for-abs

It breaks away much easier. $15 for 0.5kg is not bad compared to water dissolvable support which is very expensive. But also consider that you're only supposed to use it for the INTERFACE between your print and the support. So 0.5kg will last a very long time. As you can see in the picture, it's the white stuff between the support and print.

This is the kind of feature that some of my users make. They orient the part the best they can to reduce support already. I'm afraid that breakaway material will cause them to damage their parts. Additionally, there have been times when we've made snap together features that breakaway could damage the same features.

I'm looking up as much information on the Prusa XL using SR-30 on ABS or ASA parts. too.


Not sure why it's not letting me post images.

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If your down for a project, there are some interesting voron kits that can be fully enclosed, and I think I saw one with rails up to 500mm

I'm looking for a semi industrial solution. But not in the $10k plus range if I can help it.

 

[jp7189]

I'm looking for a semi industrial solution. But not in the $10k plus range if I can help it.

if you find a winner let me know.

 

[dmitche31958]

Bambu Lab has announced the delay in the release of its planned 2024 flagship. The delay is due to ensuring compatibility and support worldwide, but the printer has been promised to be a trailblazer in many respects.

New Bambu Lab flagship 3D printers delayed until 2025 — model aims to add "previously impossible" features : Read more

I thought that I read somewhere that they were going to do something that isn’t being done today. I as hoping with 4D or 5D printing, or true 3D printing that has been in the works for a few years.

 

[USAFRet]

I thought that I read somewhere that they were going to do something that isn’t being done today. I as hoping with 4D or 5D printing, or true 3D printing that has been in the works for a few years.

Define "4D or 5D printing".

 

[Heiro78]

Define "4D or 5D printing".

4D printing is such a dumb name. Apparently it's giving a 3D printed shape the ability to change over time (4th dimension) via stimuli such as water, heat, electricity, and more. It's really just a specialized technique and material use of 3D printing. Hardly worthy of an association of the two.

And 5D printing atleast follows some of the common knowledge with different axis machining. Where 5D printing allows the print head to move around at several angles to perform the printing. Sounds like 4D printing should be renamed before it becomes mainstream.

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Let me know if where I'm wrong here dmitche.

I thought that I read somewhere that they were going to do something that isn’t being done today. I as hoping with 4D or 5D printing, or true 3D printing that has been in the works for a few years.