New bolt action .22 thoughts

[Pete]

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Still dithering about a new .22 so dropped into a reputable gunsmith's
earlier this month just to have a look at the CZ and Sako models.
(Shan't say where or when).


The bolt on the CZ felt like it was dragging over coarse sand. And
this on a new rifle.

I don't think I'll be looking at that make again.
From Pete

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In article <o1uns098oeb5drtvugnrrump3lkskd29am@4ax.com>,
pete.ansbro@virgin.net says...
> Still dithering about a new .22 so dropped into a reputable gunsmith's
> earlier this month just to have a look at the CZ and Sako models.
> (Shan't say where or when).
>
>
> The bolt on the CZ felt like it was dragging over coarse sand. And
> this on a new rifle.

Buy yourself a Sako - you know it makes sense 🙂

--
Neil "Finnfire Range" Barker

 

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Pete <pete.ansbro@virgin.net> wrote in
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> The bolt on the CZ felt like it was dragging over coarse sand. And
> this on a new rifle.
>
> I don't think I'll be looking at that make again.

All I can say Pete, is that the CZ needs some use to bed all parts, a
little wet’n’dry along the bolt surface also smoothes things a little,
as dose some top class grease (sparingly). I had 6” taken off my CZ, a
reworked trigger and some odd’s and sodd’s. The rifle will tack drive at
70 yds. I’m so impressed with the rifle that it is fairly common
practice for me to set-up a bench and using a laser RF shoot rabbits
right out to 120 yds on windless days, something I would have never
attempted with even the best rifles I have owned.
My old Browning “T” bolt was very accurate but not when compared to the
CZ.

Now I’m in the market for a .308 (you know what it’s like, all this
disposable income)

John

 

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In news😱1uns098oeb5drtvugnrrump3lkskd29am@4ax.com Pete
<pete.ansbro@virgin.net> wrote:

> The bolt on the CZ felt like it was dragging over coarse sand. And
> this on a new rifle.
>
> I don't think I'll be looking at that make again.

That might be a mistake.

I've had a CZ ZKM 452 2E Lux for 8 years. The action was somewhat gritty,
as you describe, but it was very accurate out of the box. It was also
->very inexpensive.

So, if you intend to actually shoot things with your rifle, as opposed to
simply sit and work the action, take another look at the CZ 🙂

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com

 

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Bert Hyman <bert@visi.com> wrote in
news:Xns95C9603716E9VeebleFetzer@news.mpls.visi.com:

> In news😱1uns098oeb5drtvugnrrump3lkskd29am@4ax.com Pete
> <pete.ansbro@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> The bolt on the CZ felt like it was dragging over coarse
>> sand. And this on a new rifle.
>>
>> I don't think I'll be looking at that make again.
>
> That might be a mistake.
>
> I've had a CZ ZKM 452 2E Lux for 8 years. The action was
> somewhat gritty, as you describe, but it was very accurate
> out of the box. It was also ->very inexpensive.
>
> So, if you intend to actually shoot things with your rifle,
> as opposed to simply sit and work the action, take another
> look at the CZ 🙂
>

Another ditto.

I have an old BRNO bolt action. It is never cleaned (well, I
suppose it is when things start to jam!) and is fitted with a
fairly cheap Jap scope and sound moderator. I consistently take
rabbits with head shots out to 60 yards and beyond and worry if
I miss.

I seem to remember that I did do some work on the trigger years
ago but the mention of fine emery on the bolt action sounds a
good idea. To ensure a clean eject, it pays to be quite positive
when working the action. It is NOT for sale but I see them
secondhand in the paper for about £100. Why pay more?

Derry

 

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Derry Argue <derry(delete)@adviegundogs.co.uk> wrote in
news:Xns95C9DFB8D54BDderryadviegundogscou@130.133.1.4:

> It is NOT for sale but I see them
> secondhand in the paper for about £100. Why pay more?

I’ve owned 3 “CZ” rifles. Two .22WMR & my current .22rf, all three rifles
were very accurate, it a little rough to start with. My current little .22
is topped with a Kahles 6x42 and an old steel PH sound moderator. I would
never think of selling the rifle. I’m so impressed with CZ I’m even
thinking of buying a .308 made by them.

John

 

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I have old (1991) Brno Mod2 .22rf with tasco 4x40 scope, excellent for rabbits.
Also have CZ .222 which is possibly a little light weight but I still get good
results, with shots taken at long range.
These rifles are excellent value for money, and they work well, who needs all
the frills.

Happy Christmas,
Gary

 

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I bought a 223 CZ and had exactly the same grating on the bolt - really
horrible. I traded it in for a Tika and I am far happier......
"John" <zero_one34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95CA54AC94676OEcopyremovedheaders@130.133.1.4...
> Derry Argue <derry(delete)@adviegundogs.co.uk> wrote in
> news:Xns95C9DFB8D54BDderryadviegundogscou@130.133.1.4:
>
>> It is NOT for sale but I see them
>> secondhand in the paper for about £100. Why pay more?
>
> I've owned 3 "CZ" rifles. Two .22WMR & my current .22rf, all three rifles
> were very accurate, it a little rough to start with. My current little .22
> is topped with a Kahles 6x42 and an old steel PH sound moderator. I would
> never think of selling the rifle. I'm so impressed with CZ I'm even
> thinking of buying a .308 made by them.
>
> John

 

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Can't beat a BRNO .22 fitted with a decent scope and sound moderater. I used
one for general pest control without a problem and used to shoot rabbits
constantly at 60+ yards. Shot several foxes with it too. But i would advise
a center fire .22 for foxing, i used a remington 22-250 with a synthetic
stock and heavy (target) barrel fitted with a tasco titan scope, and i can
tell you that had a long reach on it!
http://www.thefieldsportsdebate.co.uk

"Pete" <pete.ansbro@virgin.net> wrote in message
news😱1uns098oeb5drtvugnrrump3lkskd29am@4ax.com...
> Still dithering about a new .22 so dropped into a reputable gunsmith's
> earlier this month just to have a look at the CZ and Sako models.
> (Shan't say where or when).
>
>
> The bolt on the CZ felt like it was dragging over coarse sand. And
> this on a new rifle.
>
> I don't think I'll be looking at that make again.
> From Pete
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "Being eaten by a crocodile is just like falling asleep in a blender"
> Bart Simpson

 

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In message <csb5bc$n3d$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, The Big Fish
<webmaster@thefieldsportsdebate.co.uk> writes
>Can't beat a BRNO .22 fitted with a decent scope and sound moderater.

Yes, you can. A Sako or an Anschutz will beat a Brno (ala CZ). Of
course, they cost more.

--
Jonathan

What is two plus two?
That depends, are you buying or selling?

 

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In news:72GI1RFHPa6BFwqn@salvage.demon.co.uk Jonathan Spencer
<jms@jonathan-spencer.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <csb5bc$n3d$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, The Big Fish
><webmaster@thefieldsportsdebate.co.uk> writes
>>Can't beat a BRNO .22 fitted with a decent scope and sound moderater.
>
> Yes, you can. A Sako or an Anschutz will beat a Brno (ala CZ).

Beat in what sense? Cosmetic, performance or something else?

> Of course, they cost more.


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In message <Xns95DFB26A2EE1VeebleFetzer@news.mpls.visi.com>, Bert Hyman
<bert@visi.com> writes
>In news:72GI1RFHPa6BFwqn@salvage.demon.co.uk Jonathan Spencer
><jms@jonathan-spencer.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <csb5bc$n3d$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, The Big Fish
>><webmaster@thefieldsportsdebate.co.uk> writes
>>>Can't beat a BRNO .22 fitted with a decent scope and sound moderater.
>>
>> Yes, you can. A Sako or an Anschutz will beat a Brno (ala CZ).
>
>Beat in what sense? Cosmetic, performance or something else?

Have a better trigger; smoother bolt; shoot tighter groups.

--
Jonathan

What is two plus two?
That depends, are you buying or selling?

 

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For preformance and cost my personal preference would be the BRNO anyday,
when you get into "big boys toys" then i would recommend spending more on
everything, even ammunition. But as a nominal .22 i can't beat the BRNO, I
used one for 8 years as a tool of my job and it never let me down, i always
used the cheapest ammunition which was at the time magtech .22 and worked a
treat for me!
"Jonathan Spencer" <jms@jonathan-spencer.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Xns95DFB26A2EE1VeebleFetzer@news.mpls.visi.com>, Bert Hyman
> <bert@visi.com> writes
> >In news:72GI1RFHPa6BFwqn@salvage.demon.co.uk Jonathan Spencer
> ><jms@jonathan-spencer.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In message <csb5bc$n3d$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, The Big Fish
> >><webmaster@thefieldsportsdebate.co.uk> writes
> >>>Can't beat a BRNO .22 fitted with a decent scope and sound moderater.
> >>
> >> Yes, you can. A Sako or an Anschutz will beat a Brno (ala CZ).
> >
> >Beat in what sense? Cosmetic, performance or something else?
>
> Have a better trigger; smoother bolt; shoot tighter groups.
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
> What is two plus two?
> That depends, are you buying or selling?