[SOLVED] New budget build or upgrade old?

[daniel1979]

Looking to build a new pc or improve/upgrade the one i built around 7 yrs ago.

Uses - poker mainly, Pokerstars, Party, PT4 database.

Basic desktop stuff, office etc. Internet browsing. Occasional use by my kids playing minecraft, roblox etc. No serious gaming requirements

I'd like to also get into using GTO+ solver, doesnt seem like the system req here are too demanding.

Also looking to ugrade monitors and i'd like the option to go 27" 1440. Mainly playing 6-10 tables, curently have a 23" 1080 monitor that will hold lobbies, Sharkscope etc

On to what I currently have-
CPU: Core i5 2400
MOBO: Asus P8H61-M PRO
RAM: 8GB Kingston Hyper X Genesis 1600 C9 DDR3 (2x4GB)
SSD: Crucial MX500 SSD
STORAGE: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500gb
CASE: Antec 300
PSU: Corsair CX430
COOLER: Gelid Solutions Rev. 2 Tranquillo

Would a GPU and 16GB get me what I want? Is it worthwhile spending money on a GPU and new RAM for a system this old.

Could I build something far better for around £600-650? If so, I could keep hold of the SSD for my new build and pass evrything else to my children for there needs.

Would one of the AMD Ryzens with built in GPU suffice for 1440p without having to pay out for a dedicated card?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks for any help.

Oh, monitor recommendations would be highly appreciated too. Anything good value for £200-£250

Cheers
Dan

 

[tennis2]

Your kids' gaming usage is the most demanding workload listed. How much of a priority are you placing on this usage?

Aside from that, it's just a matter of having a system that can output 1440p signal to a monitor. I believe you can do this on your current system via the HDMI port, so you could just buy a monitor and be done. Although that would be insufficient for your kids' gaming needs.

AMD is releasing their Ryzen 4000 series CPUs in October. Not sure when the G-series CPUs (with an IGP) will launch relative to that.

Technically, this is all you need:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£125.99 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£84.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: AOC CQ27G2U/BK 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor (£288.57 @ Novatech)
Total: £554.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-24 15:41 BST+0100

More "future-proof" and gaming focused:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£185.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£164.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: AOC CQ27G2U/BK 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor (£288.57 @ Novatech)
Total: £764.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-24 15:47 BST+0100

**You can reuse your SSD, HDD, PSU, and case.

 

[logainofhades]

1440p, I would say a dedicated card. Your overall budget is enough to make something 1440p capable, without worry, given the titles that will be played, and for any other games, that they might end up wanting to play, that are slightly more demanding.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£88.38 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£100.14 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£68.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£53.39 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£269.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: RIOTORO CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: AOC Q3279VWFD8 31.5" 2560x1440 75 Hz Monitor (£197.97 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £893.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-24 15:54 BST+0100

 

[daniel1979]

Thanks for the replies. My kids usage is the least of the priorities, as bad as that sounds

 

[tennis2]

Then I would just buy the monitor and be done.

As far as the system upgrade/replacement. Regardless of your decision, the monitor is your main priority.

 

[Cmacc]

I would recommend making a new ryzen build, personally I have a 3200G which is the lower end so maybe you could benefit from a second or third gen ryzen 5. I would get 16GB of ram in dual or quad channel and maybe a 5700XT or a 580.

 

[daniel1979]

How does this look?

The PSU, SSD and HDD I already have in my current build, so could reuse them?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£169.95 @ AWD-IT)
Motherboard: *MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£104.95 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£27.88 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card (£79.72 @ CCL Computers)
Case: RIOTORO CR500 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Case Fan: RIOTORO Cross-X Classic 47 CFM 120 mm Fan (£6.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £497.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-26 18:39 BST+0100

 

[daniel1979]

Considering a complete u-turn and going with an i5-10500. Cheaper than the 2700/3600X plus i wont need a GPU. Any thoughts? What is the stock cooler like? Would my Tranquillo be better than the stock cooler?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10500 3.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£158.83 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Gelid Solutions Rev. 2 Tranquillo 58 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock H470 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£102.49 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory (£64.99 @ Box Limited)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£28.64 @ Amazon UK)
Case: RIOTORO CR500 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Total: £407.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-27 13:17 BST+0100

 

[logainofhades]

You can reuse the storage, but that PSU is not a very good unit. I would replace it. Your cooler is going to be better than the stock Intel cooler. That ram will not be able to run faster, than 2666, with an H470 board. Only Z490 would allow it to run full speed. This can cause the 10500 to lose to even a Ryzen 3 3300x, that is paired with a B450/B550 board with DDR4 3200 ram, in certain situations. I do not remember what all those are, right off hand. Gamers Nexus did a 10400 review, that explained it. I would find and watch that first, then decide if Intel is still the right choice, for your needs. For basic usage that you seem to be doing, it should be. You going to give your kids the old system? lol