Question New Build $3.5k-$5k

[SillyGooseStuff]

I'm looking to build a new PC as mine is super outdated and wanted to see the thoughts on everything.

I previously asked for opinions on what I thought was a good deal on a new R15 I was able to get. Now that I've turned my attention to just building one again, I am trying to figure out the "best" route to go. I have an old, outdated 1080ti build that I am in the mood to replace and not exactly sure how "big" I want to go. Going with a 4090 build feels nice because it's the newest thing and I like the idea of not having to worry about my build for a handful or more years, but maybe I'm just chasing the shiny, new thing, but “future-proofing” would be nice.

Not sure if the monitor is worth it, but seems to be everywhere I look when searching for info on the top 32"+ monitors. I currently have an XB271HU that I plan to use as a second monitor, but wanted to upgrade my main.

I'd like to stay towards the lower end of my budget, but not too worried about it getting closer to the top with everything included.

I don't need any other peripherals right now and I guess the only other thing I would need to add would be OS.

Here is a build I have saved.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/PPP123/saved/#view=93wTMp

 

[Lafong]

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[SillyGooseStuff]

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Oops! Should work now.

 

[Ar558]

If that's your budget you can basically buy the best of everything. I don't personally recommend it as most Halo products are a waste of money. The 4090 is the perfect example $1600 for a GPU will not give you 2x the enjoyment of a $800 card or 4 x the enjoyment of a $400. But it's your money so if you want to do it should be straightforward.

 

[Why_Me]

That cpu wasn't made for air cooling. If you do decide to go with that i9 then I'd look at a 420 AIO and a board with beefier VRM's. Personally I'd go with an i7 and a 360 AIO. btw that case will need a rear exhaust fan. The Lian Ii Cool III is about as good as it gets for fitting in a large radiator along with that 4090. TBH I thought that Microcenter build I posted on your previous thread was solid. And best of all they build it for you.

 

[SillyGooseStuff]

That cpu wasn't made for air cooling. If you do decide to go with that i9 then I'd look at a 420 AIO and a board with beefier VRM's. Personally I'd go with an i7 and a 360 AIO. btw that case will need a rear exhaust fan. The Lian Ii Cool III is about as good as it gets for fitting in a large radiator along with that 4090. TBH I thought that Microcenter build I posted on your previous thread was solid. And best of all they build it for you.

Appreciate the (second thread) response!

I am definitely going to go with having micro center build it for me this go around. I noticed you linked all parts from Microcenter; do all parts have to be from there for them to build it?

I didn’t know that about the CPU needing water cooling. I saw a bunch of similar builds and figured it’d be fine.


I did look at that case, but I just don’t like it, honestly. The fractal torrent is for sure what I would end up going with for the build.

Just curious, but why would you go with the i7 over i9?

 

[Why_Me]

Appreciate the (second thread) response!

I am definitely going to go with having micro center build it for me this go around. I noticed you linked all parts from Microcenter; do all parts have to be from there for them to build it?

I didn’t know that about the CPU needing water cooling. I saw a bunch of similar builds and figured it’d be fine.


I did look at that case, but I just don’t like it, honestly. The fractal torrent is for sure what I would end up going with for the build.

Just curious, but why would you go with the i7 over i9?

Because the i9 is a heat producing power hog that only nets you a few more FPS than the i7. Make sure you get a 120mm 4-pin fan for that Fractal case.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...-p12-pwm-fluid-dynamic-bearing-120mm-case-fan

 

[SillyGooseStuff]

Because the i9 is a heat producing power hog that only nets you a few more FPS than the i7. Make sure you get a 120mm 4-pin fan for that Fractal case.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...-p12-pwm-fluid-dynamic-bearing-120mm-case-fan

Gotcha. That seems like a pretty solid reason haha. I’m wonder if maybe it’s best to drop to the i7, get a 3080 or 3090 for now and have the option to upgrade the GPU later on.

I would like to not have to upgrade a ton within the next few years and be able to play a bunch at max at the above res.

 

[Why_Me]

Gotcha. That seems like a pretty solid reason haha. I’m wonder if maybe it’s best to drop to the i7, get a 3080 or 3090 for now and have the option to upgrade the GPU later on.

I would like to not have to upgrade a ton within the next few years and be able to play a bunch at max at the above res.

4080 or 4090 should do you fine.

 

[helper800]

If I were to build it again with the aforementioned requirements, I would do it like this;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($429.97 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.78 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1226.38 @ Amazon)
Total: $4496.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-18 02:10 EST-0500

Notes;

1. The ASUS tuf 4080 /4090 are out of stock at the 1200 and 1600 dollar price points.
2. The arctic 360mm AIO is more expensive right now than the 420mm AIO.
3. Mount the AIO to the front of the torrent. The fans orientation for the case should be the 3 included fans with the AIO blowing air into the AIO. The three bottom mounted case fans remounted to the AIO for pull. The 2 front 180mm fans mounted on the case bottom pulling in fresh air for the GPU. Its a bit of work re-installing the case fans but in my opinion it would be worth it.
4. Added a 140mm fan for exhaust.

 

[SillyGooseStuff]

If I were to build it again with the aforementioned requirements, I would do it like this;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($429.97 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.78 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1226.38 @ Amazon)
Total: $4496.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-18 02:10 EST-0500

Notes;

1. The ASUS tuf 4080 /4090 are out of stock at the 1200 and 1600 dollar price points.
2. The arctic 360mm AIO is more expensive right now than the 420mm AIO.
3. Mount the AIO to the front of the torrent. The fans orientation for the case should be the 3 included fans with the AIO blowing air into the AIO. The three bottom mounted case fans remounted to the AIO for pull. The 2 front 180mm fans mounted on the case bottom pulling in fresh air for the GPU. Its a bit of work re-installing the case fans but in my opinion it would be worth it.
4. Added a 140mm fan for exhaust.

thank you for all of that!

why the swap to the 4080 from the 4090? I’m just curious because I’ve only read negative things in these forums about the price and performance when comparing the 4080 and 4090.

 

[helper800]

thank you for all of that!

why the swap to the 4080 from the 4090? I’m just curious because I’ve only read negative things in these forums about the price and performance when comparing the 4080 and 4090.

In my notes the 4090 minimum cost right now online is like 2100-2200. I could not make it fit in the budget but without other sacrifices. like droping the 4tb storage drive, and maybe dropping the full price windows licensee. like so;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($429.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Extreme AIRO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2119.67 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.78 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1225.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $4944.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-18 12:18 EST-0500

 

[SillyGooseStuff]

In my notes the 4090 minimum cost right now online is like 2100-2200. I could not make it fit in the budget but without other sacrifices. like droping the 4tb storage drive, and maybe dropping the full price windows licensee. like so;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($429.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Extreme AIRO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2119.67 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.78 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1225.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $4944.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-18 12:18 EST-0500

Ah, I got it. Yeah, one thing I’m looking trying to figure out was if I should buy the original parts and wait for the restock of 4090s and get it at retail. I’m not planning on paying the resale price for the 4090.

 

[helper800]

If that's your budget you can basically buy the best of everything. I don't personally recommend it as most Halo products are a waste of money. The 4090 is the perfect example $1600 for a GPU will not give you 2x the enjoyment of a $800 card or 4 x the enjoyment of a $400. But it's your money so if you want to do it should be straightforward.

I completely agree with this opinion. The performance goals of your build should always be put into perspective with the reality of the prices to attain it.

 

[helper800]

Ah, I got it. Yeah, one thing I’m looking trying to figure out was if I should buy the original parts and wait for the restock of 4090s and get it at retail. I’m not planning on paying the resale price for the 4090.

Here is a test of that in price;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($429.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1600.00)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.78 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1226.38 @ Amazon)
Total: $4796.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-18 12:29 EST-0500

I would highly recommend checking the Microcenter you have access to if they have any 1600-1800 dollar 4090s, a much more reasonable price than 2140.

 

[SillyGooseStuff]

Here is a test of that in price;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($429.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($319.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1600.00)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($189.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.78 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1226.38 @ Amazon)
Total: $4796.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-18 12:29 EST-0500

I would highly recommend checking the Microcenter you have access to if they have any 1600-1800 dollar 4090s, a much more reasonable price than 2140.

absolutey! Thanks again for everything. Happy holidays!