New Build $700 -$900 w/o monitor

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Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week

Budget Range: $700 $900

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming ( I play mainly MMO's & RPGS such as D3, SOTA etc.. No FPS)

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade:
Current System being upgraded https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rspitzer/saved/#view=z34gXL

Upgrading CPU, Mobo, Ram, Graphics card, PSU, SSD, 1x 120m Fan,

Reusing
Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Corsair - 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case
Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer



Do you need to buy OS:
I have a digital Win 10 64 bit pro license from a Win 7 upgrade I assume I can transfer nowhere on Microsoft Website do I see it listed as an OEM license is this correct?

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
New Egg or Amazon (others possible but prefer these 2)

Location: City, State/Region, Country
Austin,TX


Parts Preferences: by brand or type:
Intel CPU

Overclocking:
No

SLI or Crossfire:
No

Your Monitor Resolution:
Dual monitors 1920x1080
Vizio D32f-F1 32"
Acer GN246HL 24"

Additional Comments:
No LED lights or bling of any kind
Quite is good
Games played: D3, SOTA, Robocraft, NO FPS games played

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
Wanted to wait till 2019. However, had a power surge notice from my motherboard 10 days ago. Wiggled all the cables and it seems ok... but every now and then it takes a long time to boot. I am assuming it is at the very least a PSU issue & may just try replacing that before I do the entire build

Current build specs I am working with
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPbddX

Questions are:
#1 Do I really need a 1060 6G or would a 1050TI be good enough (saving $100)
#2 Want 16GB of Ram. Which Ram? One I have selected costs $200 seen others as low as $130
#3 Is ADATA a good SSD? Using SSD for OS & 1-3 games using the 1TB HD for everything else
#4 Have a digital Win10 Pro 64 license with MSFT from a Win 7 upgrade,does not say it is OEM, digital licenses can be transferred, correct? If not how can I check on MSFT website?

 

[profoundnoah]

1. If the 1060 6GB is only $100 more, I'd just stick with it. It's better to have more room to grow than not enough.
2. You should not be blowing $200 on RAM. Anything DDR4 2666+ is fine.
3. ADATA is a reliable brand of SSD. Definitely not as good as Samsung, but fine from my experience. I would advise a 480GB SSD, just in case you want to store more games.
4. https://www.groovypost.com/howto/transfer-windows-10-license-new-pc/

Here's what I'd recommend:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($165.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($160.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.38 @ Amazon)
Total: $850.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 21:30 EDT-0400

 

[tejayd]

Yours is fine except the ram is overpriced. Just made a few little changes for fun. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bcGt9J. Adding budget cpu cooler wouldn't hurt. 1070 if you want to spend the extra $$. But realistically the 1060 is fine for decent quality gaming. The AMD set up posted above I think is good also. 250gb is ok. But I do agree that something around 500 is worth it. From experience it sucks when your ssd is full.

 

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I use 190GB of my 1TB HD now (after 5 years of use).... which is why I think the smaller SSD is not a problem for my OS & games.

I will use a cheaper ram... just a bit confused on which to use.... why is 3200 cheaper is that not as good as 2400 or is that only part of the information? I am not a pro gamer...so cheaper is better without a handicap for being too cheap

While I hear ya on the CPU cooler... My system seemed ok for 5 years...but I am adding another fan on top where there was none before.

 

[ArchitSahu]

Keep some parts from your previous build. Whatever you keep is marked as $0.00 on the build and marked as purchased. Try selling off the rest of the old parts to subsidize the costs.

Ryzen -
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($165.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $925.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 23:36 EDT-0400

Intel -
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $895.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 23:36 EDT-0400

 

[profoundnoah]

The smaller SSD would normally make sense, but considering that a 240GB SSD is only $20-30 cheaper, I think you'd be getting the most value out of a 480GB one. RAM Speed doesn't really matter that much, but RAM is REALLY expensive in some cases due to it being out of stock/specific sites charging outrageous amounts for it. Generally, the faster the RAM speed, the more performance you'll get.

If you can find anything 2666Mhz+, then I'd recommend going for that if there's a significant price gap.

Also, Archit's build looks really nice, but there's a few things you should know:

1. There's not really a point in going for an X470 board vs. a B450 board at this price range. The bottom-tier X470 boards won't really give you a massive advantage vs. B450.

2. Sahu's build include's Mail-In-Rebates in the price; the real price of the AMD system is $940 and the Intel one is $910 (due to the MIR on the PSU). Also, with both builds, the GTX 1070 is indeed really strong, but the 1060 6GB is very good as well. Considering the majority of games you play aren't super demanding, I'd advise just going for the 1060 6GB right now, then upgrading down the line, should you feel it necessary.

Here's what I'd recommend as a revision to Sahu's AMD build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($165.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.91 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $897.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-15 06:41 EDT-0400

 

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Why is everyone suggesting a PSU 550+ when my power needs are less than 300 with a 1060? I was thinking of buying this Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply for only $23 at Newegg ($39.99 +$20 rebate). Is there something I do not know about my power needs or is it about a sub 500W PSU in general?

 

[profoundnoah]

550W is generally recommended due to the limited expandability options anything lower offers. I'd rather spend the money now on a quality PSU then have to upgrade it later. It also allows room to OC.

 

[vMax]

There is nothing really wrong with the Power Supply you are thinking of, but in all honesty, you are also reaching the limits of the Power Supply with the 8400/2600, 16gb RAM, 1070 and peripherals. Personally I would go for at 550w at least to give you some overhead. Where Power supplies are concerned always err on the side of quality rarther than cost..

The Seasonic Focus Plus as suggested is a fantastic highly rated PSU with a long gaurantee that is rock solid..still any decent 550w Bronze upwards will do the job. though if you need to save thewn this EVGA 500w White 80 + is only $34.99 on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1534334891&sr=8-9&keywords=550w+psu

The Corsair CX550w is £49.00 https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-CP-9020102-NA/dp/B01B72W0A2/ref=sr_1_13_sspa?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1534334986&sr=1-13-spons&keywords=550w+psu&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906984011&psc=1

As to the system, as Gaming is your priority, then the 8400 will perform better and later on you can go up the 8th Gen Intel stack and with the newly released ASrock Bios for 9th gen Intel CPU's, you will have an upgrade path there as well.

Thjats not to say Ryzen wont do a great job, it will but for your use case Intel coffee Lake is just a bit better...

 

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Based upon everyone's recommendation, I will add the Seasonic FOCUS Plus 550 to my build

 

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Would like additional advice on replacing the existing ATX-Micro Mobo I was going to use in my build with a different one.

Originally planned to use ASRock - H310M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 however if at all possible I would like to buy a Mobo from Amazon Prime (New Egg 2nd)

Any suggestions on a $55 to $65 ATX-Micro Mobo choices?

My updated proposed build so far https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rspitzer/saved/6hJfHx