Question New Build For PC

[Romoh]

Hi, my son is trying to build a PC and I tried to help him as much as I can. Unfortunately, I'm not that great at computers. We've shopped around and wanted to confirm with you guys if this build would work. He already has a monitor and a tower and very excited to put it together like legos.

GIGABYTE B660M DS3H AX DDR4 B660 Intel LGA 1700 M-ATX Motherboard with DDR4, Dual M.2, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C, 2.5GbE LAN

SAMSUNG 980 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 V-NAND MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8V1T0B/AM

Thermaltake TR2 430W ATX 12 V2.3 Power Supply W0070RU-04 (TR2-430W)

ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3050 AMP 8GB GDDR6 128-bit 14 Gbps PCIE 4.0 Gaming Graphics Card,
IceStorm 2.0 Advanced Cooling, FREEZE Fan Stop, Active Fan Control, ZT-A30500F-10M

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model CMK32GX4M4A2666C16

Intel Core i5-3470 - Core i5 3rd Gen Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.2 GHz LGA 1155 77W Intel HD Graphics 2500 Desktop Processor - BX80637i53470

SILVERSTONE SST-KR01 80mm Dual ball bearing CPU Cooler

We would appreciate any input and critiques. Thank you very much in advance.

 

[rgd1101]

cpu is old not support on the motherboard.
get a better psu

 

[Lafong]

Intel Core i5-3470......I would totally avoid.

What is your total budget?

 

[geofelt]

Sorry, not gonna work.
Are these parts on a shopping list, or have they already been bought?

What is the make/model of the case(tower).
Need to verify if the motherboard will fit.

B660m is fine, but it needs a suitable processor.
Here is a list of supported processors:

B660M DS3H DDR4 (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

www.gigabyte.com

I5-3470 is not on the list, and is very old tech.
A suitable processor might be the i3-12100

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

It will come with a good stock cooler.
Do not be suckered in by the lowered price of a 12100F without integrated graphics.
The $25 difference will save you if you should ever have a problem with the discrete graphics card.
You might even want to see how you do without a graphics card. Some types of games are very playable with integrated graphics.

Samsung 1tb m.2 is very good, but beware that there are some fake units that sell for cheap.

RTX3050 is ok.

A 430w psu may have sufficient power, but the TR2 is a very cheap unit that nobody should buy.
Do not buy a cheap psu.
A cheap PSU will be made of substandard components. It may not have all safety and overload protections.
The danger is if it fails under load, it can destroy anything it is connected to.
It will deliver advertised power only at room temperatures, not at higher temperatures found when installed in a case.
The wattage will be delivered on the 3 and 5v rails, not on the 12v rails where modern parts
like the CPU and Graphics cards need it. What power is delivered may fluctuate and cause instability;
issues that are hard to diagnose.
The fan will need to spin up higher to cool it, making it noisy.
A cheap PSU can become very expensive.

Do not buy one.
A reasonable way to assess psu quality is to look at the warranty.
7 years gets you a very good unit like this Seasonic GM550 with a 7 year warranty:

Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com

Buy Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular, Fits All ATX Systems, Fan Control in Silent and Cooling Mode, 7 Year Warranty, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

On ram, most will not need 32gb, a 2 x 8gb kit will be fine.
If you really need 32gb, buy a 2 x 16gb kit which will usually be cheaper than a 4 stick kit.
Intel is dual channel only so there is no advantage to 4 sticks.
2666 is fine, speed is not important to Intel.

 

[Romoh]

Thank you for the reply, the budget is around $600

 

[Romoh]

Sorry, not gonna work.
Are these parts on a shopping list, or have they already been bought?

What is the make/model of the case(tower).
Need to verify if the motherboard will fit.

B660m is fine, but it needs a suitable processor.
Here is a list of supported processors:

B660M DS3H DDR4 (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

www.gigabyte.com

I5-3470 is not on the list, and is very old tech.
A suitable processor might be the i3-12100

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

It will come with a good stock cooler.
Do not be suckered in by the lowered price of a 12100F without integrated graphics.
The $25 difference will save you if you should ever have a problem with the discrete graphics card.
You might even want to see how you do without a graphics card. Some types of games are very playable with integrated graphics.

Samsung 1tb m.2 is very good, but beware that there are some fake units that sell for cheap.

RTX3050 is ok.

A 430w psu may have sufficient power, but the TR2 is a very cheap unit that nobody should buy.
Do not buy a cheap psu.
A cheap PSU will be made of substandard components. It may not have all safety and overload protections.
The danger is if it fails under load, it can destroy anything it is connected to.
It will deliver advertised power only at room temperatures, not at higher temperatures found when installed in a case.
The wattage will be delivered on the 3 and 5v rails, not on the 12v rails where modern parts
like the CPU and Graphics cards need it. What power is delivered may fluctuate and cause instability;
issues that are hard to diagnose.
The fan will need to spin up higher to cool it, making it noisy.
A cheap PSU can become very expensive.

Do not buy one.
A reasonable way to assess psu quality is to look at the warranty.
7 years gets you a very good unit like this Seasonic GM550 with a 7 year warranty:

Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com

Buy Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular, Fits All ATX Systems, Fan Control in Silent and Cooling Mode, 7 Year Warranty, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

On ram, most will not need 32gb, a 2 x 8gb kit will be fine.
If you really need 32gb, buy a 2 x 16gb kit which will usually be cheaper than a 4 stick kit.
Intel is dual channel only so there is no advantage to 4 sticks.
2666 is fine, speed is not important to Intel.

Thank you so much for the information. It's a good thing I asked first before purchasing everything. The case is Rosewill PRISIM S500. We will definitely look into the links and update. Thanks again.

 

[Lafong]

That case can accept coolers up to 160mm

That give you a lot of choices for coolers.

For 600 dollar budget.

I'd probably look at an i-3 CPU from the last generation or two.

Not sure you need a Samsung 980; maybe look at Samsung 970 EVO Plus, WD SN 570; or WD SN 770.


Or Crucial MX500 in standard 2.5 inch form.

16 GB of RAM in a 2 x 8 kit will be fine.

 

[Romoh]

Sorry, not gonna work.
Are these parts on a shopping list, or have they already been bought?

What is the make/model of the case(tower).
Need to verify if the motherboard will fit.

B660m is fine, but it needs a suitable processor.
Here is a list of supported processors:

B660M DS3H DDR4 (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

www.gigabyte.com

I5-3470 is not on the list, and is very old tech.
A suitable processor might be the i3-12100

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

It will come with a good stock cooler.
Do not be suckered in by the lowered price of a 12100F without integrated graphics.
The $25 difference will save you if you should ever have a problem with the discrete graphics card.
You might even want to see how you do without a graphics card. Some types of games are very playable with integrated graphics.

Samsung 1tb m.2 is very good, but beware that there are some fake units that sell for cheap.

RTX3050 is ok.

A 430w psu may have sufficient power, but the TR2 is a very cheap unit that nobody should buy.
Do not buy a cheap psu.
A cheap PSU will be made of substandard components. It may not have all safety and overload protections.
The danger is if it fails under load, it can destroy anything it is connected to.
It will deliver advertised power only at room temperatures, not at higher temperatures found when installed in a case.
The wattage will be delivered on the 3 and 5v rails, not on the 12v rails where modern parts
like the CPU and Graphics cards need it. What power is delivered may fluctuate and cause instability;
issues that are hard to diagnose.
The fan will need to spin up higher to cool it, making it noisy.
A cheap PSU can become very expensive.

Do not buy one.
A reasonable way to assess psu quality is to look at the warranty.
7 years gets you a very good unit like this Seasonic GM550 with a 7 year warranty:

Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com

Buy Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular, Fits All ATX Systems, Fan Control in Silent and Cooling Mode, 7 Year Warranty, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

On ram, most will not need 32gb, a 2 x 8gb kit will be fine.
If you really need 32gb, buy a 2 x 16gb kit which will usually be cheaper than a 4 stick kit.
Intel is dual channel only so there is no advantage to 4 sticks.
2666 is fine, speed is not important to Intel.

Okay, we've updated and would this work?

GIGABYTE B660M DS3H AX DDR4 B660 Intel LGA 1700 M-ATX Motherboard with DDR4, Dual M.2, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C, 2.5GbE LAN

Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular, Fits All ATX Systems, Fan Control in Silent and Cooling Mode, 7 Year Warranty, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application

Intel Core i3-12100F - Core i3 12th Gen Alder Lake Quad-Core 3.3 GHz LGA 1700 58W Desktop Processor - BX8071512100F

SAMSUNG 980 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 V-NAND MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8V1T0B/AM

SILVERSTONE SST-KR01 80mm Dual ball bearing CPU Cooler

ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3050 AMP 8GB GDDR6 128-bit 14 Gbps PCIE 4.0 Gaming Graphics Card, IceStorm 2.0 Advanced Cooling, FREEZE Fan Stop, Active Fan Control, ZT-A30500F-10M

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2A2666C16

Thanks again for your help!

 

[Lafong]

Why the F CPU?

F CPUs do not have integrated video. The 12100 non-F might cost another 25 dollars?

What led you to that specific cooler?

That cooler blows down. You can do better. You can get a standard upright cooler that would blow toward the rear of the case. Those are usually superior. The only reason to get a "downblower" would be that your case is very narrow and demands a short cooler.

But your case isn't narrow. It will take any upright cooler up to 160 mm tall.

Is that specific RAM mentioned in the qualified memory list for that motherboard. Even if it isn't, it may well still be OK.

Motherboard looks OK;

Power supply looks OK.

I don't know about the GPU.

 

[Romoh]

Why the F CPU?

F CPUs do not have integrated video. The 12100 non-F might cost another 25 dollars?

What led you to that specific cooler?

That cooler blows down. You can do better. You can get a standard upright cooler that would blow toward the rear of the case. Those are usually superior. The only reason to get a "downblower" would be that your case is very narrow and demands a short cooler.

But your case isn't narrow. It will take any upright cooler up to 160 mm tall.

Is that specific RAM mentioned in the qualified memory list for that motherboard. Even if it isn't, it may well still be OK.

Motherboard looks OK;

Power supply looks OK.

I don't know about the GPU.

Ah okay, we switched it to the 12100 non-F.. Also, would you have any suggestions on the upright cooler? I found this one but I'm not entirely sure if it's the typer you're talking about

JONSBO HX7280 TDP280W Performance CPU Cooler, 7 Copper Heatpipes Twin Tower Radiator,H:160MM, 2+1 Fans, LGA1700 Support, FDB Dynamic Hydraulic Bearing,Standard 1g German Silicone Grease, Black​

 

[Romoh]

Ah okay, we switched it to the 12100 non-F.. Also, would you have any suggestions on the upright cooler? I found this one but I'm not entirely sure if it's the typer you're talking about

JONSBO HX7280 TDP280W Performance CPU Cooler, 7 Copper Heatpipes Twin Tower Radiator,H:160MM, 2+1 Fans, LGA1700 Support, FDB Dynamic Hydraulic Bearing,Standard 1g German Silicone Grease, Black​

or

DeepCool AK620 High-Performance CPU Cooler, Dual-Tower Design, 2x 120mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing Fans, 6 Copper Heat Pipes, 260W Heat Dissipation, Black.​

SAMA KA200DW RGB CPU Air Cooler with 9cm PWM fan 2 Copper Heat Pipes For AMD/Intel Universal Gaming Computer Cooling Radiator White​

 

[Lafong]

Can you tell us or post a link to the site from which you might buy the cooler.

How much are you willing to spend for that specific part?

The 12100 is not difficult to cool. You should be fine with something in the 30 to 50 dollar range. If you can spend 60 to 100, you can get up into the "excellent" category.

Some coolers include thermal paste, some don't. You'll need a tube of it.

How would you rate the users of this PC on an "I don't like noise" scale? Average? Highly averse to noise? Largely indifferent?

The slower the fans spin, the less the noise....and some fans are inherently noisier than others. Normally, a decent fan would be virtually silent at speeds under 1000 rpm but might be quite audible at 2000 rpm and above from 3 or 4 feet distance.

Maybe nobody much cares about cooler noise in your household?

Link to where you will buy the cooler?

Do you require RGB on the cooler?

Of those coolers you list, 2 of the 3 have dual towers. Nothing wrong with that, but you shouldn't need anything that bulky for a 12100.

Looking at Newegg, it doesn't appear that the SAMA cooler is compatible with your motherboard's LGA 1700 socket. The other two are compatible.

HOWEVER, both the Jonsbo and the Deepcool are said to be EXACTLY 160 mm tall, which is EXACTLY the max cooler height acceptable for your case per published specs. I would be a bit nervous that might be cutting it too close. Maybe not. You might consider restricting the cooler to 158 or 159 mm height to relieve doubt. Your call entirely.

Your Rosewill case includes 4 case fans. They are of unknown quality. Maybe perfectly OK. You may find that you don't need all 4 of them for adequate cooling. Evaluate that later after you get the PC up and running.

 

[Romoh]

Can you tell us or post a link to the site from which you might buy the cooler.

How much are you willing to spend for that specific part?

The 12100 is not difficult to cool. You should be fine with something in the 30 to 50 dollar range. If you can spend 60 to 100, you can get up into the "excellent" category.

Some coolers include thermal paste, some don't. You'll need a tube of it.

How would you rate the users of this PC on an "I don't like noise" scale? Average? Highly averse to noise? Largely indifferent?

The slower the fans spin, the less the noise....and some fans are inherently noisier than others. Normally, a decent fan would be virtually silent at speeds under 1000 rpm but might be quite audible at 2000 rpm and above from 3 or 4 feet distance.

Maybe nobody much cares about cooler noise in your household?

Link to where you will buy the cooler?

Do you require RGB on the cooler?

Of those coolers you list, 2 of the 3 have dual towers. Nothing wrong with that, but you shouldn't need anything that bulky for a 12100.

Looking at Newegg, it doesn't appear that the SAMA cooler is compatible with your motherboard's LGA 1700 socket. The other two are compatible.

HOWEVER, both the Jonsbo and the Deepcool are said to be EXACTLY 160 mm tall, which is EXACTLY the max cooler height acceptable for your case per published specs. I would be a bit nervous that might be cutting it too close. Maybe not. You might consider restricting the cooler to 158 or 159 mm height to relieve doubt. Your call entirely.

Your Rosewill case includes 4 case fans. They are of unknown quality. Maybe perfectly OK. You may find that you don't need all 4 of them for adequate cooling. Evaluate that later after you get the PC up and running.

Thanks for the info. He is mostly indifferent to the noise and doesn't care about RGB. So you're saying that we probably wont even need to purchase a fan? We would be purchasing everything on Newegg. If we were to purchase one would this one be okay?

Vetroo V5 CPU Air Cooler w/ 5 Heat Pipes 120mm PWM Processor 150W TDP Cooler for Intel LGA 1700/1200/115X AMD AM5/AM4 w/Addressable RGB Lights Sync​

 

[Lafong]

You shouldn't have to purchase case fans. Your case includes 4 of them.

Below are 3 more plausible coolers within your height limitations.

The Vetroo you chose should be OK as well.

The mounting mechanisms can vary. Some are more well designed than others.

The Noctua below includes thermal paste.


https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-gammaxx-ag620/p/N82E16835856214?Item=N82E16835856214&SoldByNewegg=1



https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-ag400/p/N82E16835856221?Item=N82E16835856221&SoldByNewegg=1



https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-u9s/p/N82E16835608067?Item=9SIAADY44C5770

 

[Romoh]

My son said. "Hello thank you for your help on my budget pc, I really appreciate it and i wouldn't have done it without you guys. Thank you."


GIGABYTE B660M DS3H AX DDR4 B660 Intel LGA 1700 M-ATX Motherboard with DDR4, Dual M.2, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C, 2.5GbE LAN

GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6600 EAGLE 8G Graphics Card, WINDFORCE 3X Cooling System, 8GB 128-bit GDDR6, GV-R66Seasonic FOCUS GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular, Fits All

ATX Systems, Fan Control in Silent and Cooling Mode, 7 Year Warranty, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various ApplicationEAGLE-8GD Video Card

Intel Core i3-12100 - Core i3 12th Gen Alder Lake Quad-Core 3.3 GHz LGA 1700 Processor 60W Intel UHD Graphics 730 Desktop Processor - BX8071512100

Western Digital WD Blue SN570 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe v1.4 TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T3B0C

DeepCool GAMMAXX AG400 Single-Tower CPU Cooler, 120mm Fan, Direct-Touch Copper Heat Pipes, Intel/AMD Support

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2A2666C16