New build issue - dual core or i5??

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ok first of all i don't overclock and i'm not a gamer... i would say (above-average home user)!!

I have an old system which is outdated so i am buying a new system..
I have a 20inch flat-screen monitor, good keyboard and mouse, and DVD/CD drive.
For my new system i already bought a new case, new hardrive, new PSU, so all i need is the MOBO, CPU, and RAM.
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current system- running windows xp pro - 32 bit -- this system is actually pretty good for me just its always running at 110% so i just need something that keeps up with how i use the computer...
CPU Intel Pentium 4, 2533 MHz (19 x 133)
Memory 1536 MB (DDR SDRAM)
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 6200 (256 MB)
Audio Adapter Creative Audigy LS Audio Processor
Motherboard Intel Blue Mountain D845EBT (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 DIMM, Audio, LAN, IEEE-1394)

Motherboard is at the max i can upgrade stuff..lol so..i'm buying a new pc
100gb harddrive
350watt psu

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New system.... (maybe)?? i still have to buy the CPU, RAM, and MOBO. $237 total
CPU ---- Intel Pentium Dual-Core E6500 2.93GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W - $95
RAM ---- 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $52
MOBO -- ASUS P5QL/EPU LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX - $90
HD ------ 500gb sata 32mb cache (7200 rpm) - $bought it
PSU ----- 600watt - $bought it

i am just going to reuse my current graphic and sound card...(they worked fine..)
also might be running windows xp 64 bit or vista ultimate 64 bit for this system
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BUT????? THEN I SAW THIS... it costs $207over my budget!!!
New system (maybe)?? $430 total
CPU ---- Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - $200
RAM ---- 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) - $110 (do i need 6gbs of ram?)
MOBO -- GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX - $120
HD ------ 500gb sata 32mb cache (7200 rpm) - $bought it
PSU ----- 600watt - $bought it

i am just going to reuse my current graphic and sound card for this system too (i think)
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sorry about being so long... but thats every detail.. so you can see my current system and then what i was going to get.. might be the second option? i can't decide if its worth it??
how much faster would it be??
 

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+1 it is a dual core not even a core 2 duo the second option will be alot better ,worth it and hell faster, try to save some cash using combos if you are shopping from newegg for ram 6GB is only for i7 because it uses triple channel while the i5 uses dual channel so 4Gb is enough,also windows 7 will be released in 22 of october so if you wanna buy it before that time get a vista 64-bit not ultimate because it is garbage get it home premium and make sure it has the free upgrade copon to windows 7 ;)

 

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omg.... i cant decide ... i don't have the money right now to get the second choice....

what if i got this CPU for the first choice.. would only cost me another $70
Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W - $167

i dont really want to wait another month or 2 before i order the rest of this build.... i have everything except the RAM,MOBO,CPU soooo i want to spend less then $400 for those...
 

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personally i was going to suggest core 2 duo they are pretty old now and its socket is outdated but it would be more than enough for you IMO and the E8400 is really great
 

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Try this on for size and $!!!
$99 shipped!! Quad core and cheap, exactly what your looking for!!
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

$80 shipped!!! One of the better mobo's with a good onboard GPU so you don't need a dedicated GPU yet. Just add a dedicated GPU later, if you need one.
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

$80 shipped! Plenty of RAM for now, upgrade later if you need more!!
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail

Total $259!!! Now this should work just fine for what you want to do. Its fast and cheap.

Anandtech's review of the New AMD Athlon II x4 620/630 CPU's!!
Tom's Hardware review of the same chip!
 
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=I5-750BOX Combo Price: $309.99 | $279.99 $30 off w/ code SAVINGS30 on I5-750BOX combo Free Ground Shipping
GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 Socket 1156/ Intel P55/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ MATX Motherboard
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-750 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1156 CPU, Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 $79.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail
 

lunyone

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YES your right, I got them mixed up with another post, sorry.
$63 shipped! I like the speed and voltage of these. There are many more to pick from, but these aren't too expensive and are of decent speed too. I also like the stock voltage too, so if you OC later you'll have a better chance of getting a better OC when starting from a stock voltage!!
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail

So subtract $17 from the previous total and your now at $242!!!!
 

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Choice 2 is nice but wont be noticeable faster then choice on for your needs.

If I were you I would get a
Gigabyte G31M-Es2L and a celeron e3200.
The e3200 OCs to 3.6 with great temps on the stock cooler with this board.
The Pentium, and Celerons are the exact same chips as the core 2 duos, the only difference is cache, which only really makes a 5% if your a game, and your not.

Motherboard , CPU, and 4G ram is $150.
 

lunyone

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Wow with a heavy multi-tasker he's better off with the Athlon II x4 chip than the celeron. The g31 mobo, IIRC, doesn't even support PCI-e 2.0. I'm not sure the OP wants to OC, like your suggesting, so why would you suggest it, especially since s775 is dead!
 

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main question... does my MOBO exploit the full potential of the CPU im getting?

OK first of all i don't overclock and i'm not a gamer... i would say (above-average home user)!!
what i use the pc for.. from most > Runescape, watching video online{youtube,etc.}, surfing the net, listening to music, and few small other things < to least. My current system starts to skip and lag when i try to do combo those. so i want something that can keep them all open with no lag.

current system- running windows xp pro
- 32 bit -- this system is actually pretty good for me --just its always running at 110%-- so i just need something that keeps up with how i use the computer...

New system

DO NOT NEED - Monitor i have a 20inch flatscreen
DO NOT NEED - keyboard mouse
DO NOT NEED - DVD/CD drive
DO NOT NEED - case i got a nice new one
DO NOT NEED - hardrive 500gb sata 32mb cache 7200 rpm
DO NOT NEED - PSU have a new 600w
I am ordering only from newegg.. (these are the last 3 items i neet to get)

i like the CPU and RAM, but does this MOBO exploit the full potential of the CPU im getting?
NEED MOBO - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131399
NEED CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Yorkfield 2.66GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95w - final choice
NEED RAM - i have 4gb DDR2 in shopping cart - final choice..

i am using the on-board video... if it doesnt work good for me i will buy a pci express x16.. so i need a mobo with on-board video and a pci express x16 slot..
 

lunyone

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The system that I detailed above will be the cheapest and best system for your needs. It INCLUDES one of the better onboard GPU's that you can get right now. Intel's versions aren't even quite up to AMD in this respect. AMD owns the onboard GPU market as far as performance. You should be able to do all of your tasks all at once with a quad CPU. Yes it's not the fastest on the planet, but for a $100 Quad CPU what can you ask for??
 

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amd---
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706

$230 total... thats better than this
intel---
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116265
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131394
$182 total (i could buy a better MOBO or a GPU with the extra $40?)
 

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Final build - costing $350 after shipping and taxes - I will be purchasing this!!!
WOOT....!!!
Thanks too everyone who helped me out!!!
I will be back to let you know how it runs. :D



Specs.............................................................................................
NEW SYSTEM- running windows XP pro 32bit
CPU - AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor
Memory - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
MoBo - GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX
HD - 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA
PSU - 600watt
Monitor - 20inch flatscreen

Specs.............................................................................................
OLD SYSTEM- running windows XP pro 32bit
CPU - Intel Pentium 4, 2533 MHz (19 x 133)
Memory - 1536 MB (DDR SDRAM)
Video - NVIDIA GeForce 6200 (256 MB)
Audio - Creative Audigy LS Audio Processor
MoBo - Intel Blue Mountain D845EBT (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 2 DIMM, Audio, LAN, IEEE-1394)
HD - 100gb
PSU - 350watt
Monitor - 20inch flatscreen
 

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