New Build: Review/Help Requested

Jan 9, 2019
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Current Build (to be replaced):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-930 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-X58A-UD3R ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 12 GB (3 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Crucial - RealSSD C300 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 750 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 560 1 GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair - Enthusiast 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Wireless Network Adapter: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048

Why I am Upgrading: Motherboard keeps dropping the connection to my current hard drives and it's eight years old.
Approximate Purchase Date: This week
Budget Range: <$1,000 all in after everything (less it better naturally)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies, work
Are you buying a monitor: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 at 60hz
Parts to Upgrade: Potentially everything though I'd like to reuse what I can from my old build
Do you need to buy OS: No, I have Windows 10 that will work
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Whatever is the least expensive
Location: Frenchtown/Flemington, NJ, USA
Parts Preferences: Don't care though I've used intel with my current build
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No

New Build (The 3 italicized items are from my old build that I would like to reuse if possible):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($108.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card ($249.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply:Corsair - Enthusiast 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC68 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($84.37 @ OutletPC)
Total: $809.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Additional Questions:
1) I plan to continue gaming at 1920x1080 at 60hz so I don't need an insane graphics card but is the GTX 1060 good enough or too much?
2) I'm not sure if I went overkill on the memory; is 16GB too much or can I go with 8GB?
3) Is the stock CPU cooler good enough or do I need a better CPU cooler? If I need a better one, which one?
4) Is the PSU I have still ok or do I need more power/a new one, and is so which new one?
5) Is it worth getting a new case to use the front USB 3.0 ports or should I save my $?

Additional Comments:
1) I would prefer are more quiet PC so long as it doesn't break the budget.
2) I need to use WiFi hence the new adapter. The current adapter is outdated.
3) I don't care about aesthetic at all. Only functionality is important in my budget.
4) Work is using an ERP system, whether it's QB or Sage 100, and MS Office (mainly Excel) remotely via remote desktop.
5) I figured I'd swap out all the old hard drives and just got 1 500GB SSD with the new build. If that make sense?
6) I am open to a completely different build so long as it's in the budget and works with what I have/need. So if you have a better build/ideas please let me know.
 

Barty1884

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What does 'work' entail for you?

What do you have with your current build? Other than the HAF and PSU, of course.

The TX650 is getting a bit long in the tooth at this point. It's probably still adequate though.

As for your questions:
1. The 6GB 1060 should be totally capable for 1080p/60Hz gaming. Most of the time that should be a High-Ultra experience, with some titles needing you to drop to Medium-High.
2. 16GB is the sweet spot, generally speaking. Games are definitely starting to utilize >8GB alone, although they're still a ways away from using the full 16GB.
4. The stock cooler is sufficient with an 8400. Not going to be the best temps in the world, but totally safe/comfortable.
5. The HAF912 is dated at this point, but if you like it & can live with USB3 only on the rear.... why both changing it?


You're definitely on the right track with the build, although there are alternatives you might want to consider.

Example, making only slight tweaks to your build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($107.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Video Card ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair - Enthusiast 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: $683.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-09 19:40 EST-0500

You don't *need* a "Z" board with a locked CPU, and you could also move the Wifi from a dedicated adapter to onboard
That being said, there's no real 'budget' boards with onboard Wifi that are not mITX. That would probably look a little ridiculous in a HAF912.

Unless you have a particular aesthetic you're going for, the Aegis kit saves you $15 vs the RipjawsV and would perform identically.

Cheaper 6GB 1060, that's a dual-fan design so should run a little cooler.

If you need an optical drive, do you not already have one installed that you'd just reuse?

That shaves about $150 off the cost, with no actual performance tradeoff. Arguably, improved with the GPU that should run a little cooler.


As an alternative, an RX580 will trade blows with a 1060... Depends on the titles as far as a 'winner';, but it's pretty close. You could save another ~$40 or so opting for an 8GB 580.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($107.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair - Enthusiast 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: $649.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-09 19:41 EST-0500


Or, a further alternative.... a Ryzen5 2600. 6c/12t CPU, a slightly weaker IPC vs the Intel build, but should still an impressive gaming chip - and huge value for money that saves you another $30+.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair - Enthusiast 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Total: $617.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-09 19:42 EST-0500


 
Jan 9, 2019
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I updated my original post to include my current build as shown below:
Current Build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-930 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-X58A-UD3R ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 12 GB (3 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Crucial - RealSSD C300 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 750 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 560 1 GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair - Enthusiast 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Wireless Network Adapter: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048

In regards to your questions/comments:
1) I can live with the HAF912 and was only considering replacing it if you thought the USB 3.0 front ports were really needed.
2) I don't care about aesthetic at all. Only functionality is important in my budget so I'll go with the Aegis kit over RipjawsV.
3) I do have an optical drive, I forgot to remove the price from the new build. Edited original post.
4) Work is using an ERP system, whether it's QB or Sage 100, and MS Office (mainly Excel) remotely via remote desktop.
5) I figured I'd swap out all the old hard drives and just got 1 500GB SSD with the new build. If that make sense?
 

Barty1884

Titan
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Yeah, for your workload, any of the builds I posted (or a 2600 + 1060) would be solid options.

As for USB3, you'd be the one to know if you needed an additional front panel USB3.... The rear IO of the board will still give you that option, should you need USB3.
 

jwcrellin

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For work use, i'd recommend the ryzen 5 2600 over the i5 8400, you'll make good use of the extra threads and it costs less too. I'd stick with the gtx 1060 or get an 1160 when they release next month. Nvidia has better driver updates and game optimization so you should see a 5-10% uplift over the rx 580.
 

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