New build (UK) To be Overclocked in the future when i can afford a watercooler

[Gully88]

[PCPartPicker part list](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1B9T7) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1B9T7
Hey,

This is my new build i plan to purchase soon and i need some advice on what i've got here. I'm looking to overclock in the near future once i get hold of some more cash and buy a watercooler and new monitor. I'm looking for some suggestions on optimizing and saving some money with little or no sacrifices. I plan to play only a few games ie Rome2. This is mainly to support multi monitors. So far i will be running this of my 32 inch tv in the corner and doing my work of my laptop.

/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1B9T7/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k) | £173.99 @ Aria PC (271.955 USD)
**Motherboard** | [ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4) | £101.34 @ Amazon UK (158.399 USD)
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9) | £55.00 @ Amazon UK (85.9677 USD)
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd128bw) | £101.95 @ Amazon UK (159.353 USD)
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | £48.36 @ CCL Computers (75.5891 USD)
**Video Card** | [MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc) | £209.99 @ Aria PC (328.225 USD)
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwdn4800) | £25.47 @ Amazon UK (25.47 USD)
**Case** | [Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-300r) | £59.90 @ Amazon UK (93.6267 USD)
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr650rm) | £97.98 @ Scan.co.uk (153.148 USD)
**Optical Drive** | [Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas124-04) | £12.98 @ Novatech (20.2884 USD)
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700403) | £67.67 @ Aria PC (105.772 USD)
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | £954.63 (1,492.13 USD)
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-08 11:33 BST+0100 |

 

[Kelthar]

Your build is quite good, I don't see any room for improvement.

You can also get the Hyper 212 EVO for some minor overclocking, it's a pretty good air-cooler.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£173.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.34 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£48.36 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£239.75 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£25.47 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.85 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£67.67 @ Aria PC)
Total: £940.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-08 13:12 BST+0100)

If you're considering a CLLC, I'd suggest getting a decent air cooler instead - usually cheaper, quieter, and better cooling. Fully blown custom loops are another matter, but you'll pay.

 

[Gully88]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£173.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.34 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£48.36 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£239.75 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£25.47 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.85 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£67.67 @ Aria PC)
Total: £940.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-08 13:12 BST+0100)

If you're considering a CLLC, I'd suggest getting a decent air cooler instead - usually cheaper, quieter, and better cooling. Fully blown custom loops are another matter, but you'll pay.

Hey thanks for the reply
I was considering the corsair h60i closed loop system for the future
would like to know why you suggested the hd7970 over the 760?
http://www.scan.co.uk/tekspek/gpu-graphics/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760 - don't particularly understand the specs maybe should leave it for another post?
i would like to stick with a better psu for its longevity and the gold cert.
ithe ram is of no concern to me so that a bargain!
as for the ssd i'm not going to the need something that big with the mechanical also the pro series is noticeably faster.

cheers

 

[tiny voices]

The 7970 is WAY better than the 760.

The h60i will be WAY worse than a good air cooler. Water coolers are for bragging and aren't any better than air. They are just noisy and expensive.

You cannot overclock any better with an h60i than with a coolermaster hyper 212 evo.

 

[Gully88]

The 7970 is WAY better than the 760.

The h60i will be WAY worse than a good air cooler. Water coolers are for bragging and aren't any better than air. They are just noisy and expensive.

You cannot overclock any better with an h60i than with a coolermaster hyper 212 evo.

ok so water cooling is just a gimmick then? also if the 7970 is 'WAY' better is it worth the extra money? will it make a difference to what i'm using it for? i.e playing rome 2 on a 32'' tv and multi screening?

could you be a little more specific please?

 

[tiny voices]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/854?vs=768 760 vs. 7970. You can decide for yourself.

 

[Kelthar]

Water coolers are for bragging and aren't any better than air. They are just noisy and expensive.

I have no idea where did you get that information, but you're simply wrong.

Find any good comparison and you'll be able to see that under load good watercoolers manage to get SEVERAL degrees less than any aircooler can.

And noisy? Watercoolers are less noisy than aircoolers...

Now, for the price of a 7970 you can get a GTX 770 which tops off the 7970 in terms of performance.

 

[tiny voices]

Water coolers are for bragging and aren't any better than air. They are just noisy and expensive.

I have no idea where did you get that information, but you're simply wrong.

Find any good comparison and you'll be able to see that under load good watercoolers manage to get SEVERAL degrees less than any aircooler can.

And noisy? Watercoolers are less noisy than aircoolers...

Now, for the price of a 7970 you can get a GTX 770 which tops off the 7970 in terms of performance.

Water coolers are noiser than air coolers because the fans have to move ALOT faster than air cooler fans to cool the same amount.

And yes, Tomshardware did a comparison where a Noctua NH-D14 was compared to an h100i and the Noctua lost by 1 degree. The h100i was something like 3 times as loud.

 

[Gully88]

Water coolers are for bragging and aren't any better than air. They are just noisy and expensive.

I have no idea where did you get that information, but you're simply wrong.

Find any good comparison and you'll be able to see that under load good watercoolers manage to get SEVERAL degrees less than any aircooler can.

And noisy? Watercoolers are less noisy than aircoolers...

Now, for the price of a 7970 you can get a GTX 770 which tops off the 7970 in terms of performance.

Water coolers are noiser than air coolers because the fans have to move ALOT faster than air cooler fans to cool the same amount.

And yes, Tomshardware did a comparison where a Noctua NH-D14 was compared to an h100i and the Noctua lost by 1 degree. The h100i was something like 3 times as loud.

this is all great guys but cooling this monstrosity will come at a later date when i oc

now spending the extra £30 on a 760/7970 be worth it for my use only?

cheers

 

[RazerZ]

The 7970 is WAY better than the 760.

The h60i will be WAY worse than a good air cooler. Water coolers are for bragging and aren't any better than air. They are just noisy and expensive.

You cannot overclock any better with an h60i than with a coolermaster hyper 212 evo.

ok so water cooling is just a gimmick then? also if the 7970 is 'WAY' better is it worth the extra money? will it make a difference to what i'm using it for? i.e playing rome 2 on a 32'' tv and multi screening?

could you be a little more specific please?

If you plan to upgrade and use sli get the 760. If not then either a 7970 or 7950 are good choices.

 

[Kelthar]

@topic - You can get a 760 now and later on upgrade to SLI. If you want better FPS right off the bat get either a GTX 770 or a 7970.

@tiny voices, it got 5ºC higher in load temperatures

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon-240m-lq320,3380-12.html

And your claim about noise can be fixed by using simple PWM fans which barely reduce performance

We can continue this specific discussion over private messages as the OP will only care about watercooling later.

 

[Gully88]

@topic - You can get a 760 now and later on upgrade to SLI. If you want better FPS right off the bat get either a GTX 770 or a 7970.

@tiny voices, it got 5ºC higher in load temperatures

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon-240m-lq320,3380-12.html

And your claim about noise can be fixed by using simple PWM fans which barely reduce performance

We can continue this specific discussion over private messages as the OP will only care about watercooling later.

Thank you all for your advice! i'm now leaning towards the 7970 from msi
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7970-twin-frozr-iii-oc-boost-edition-5500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1000mhz-2048-cores-mdp

as i can't find any gtx770's anywhere near that price range for an extra £30 its worth the buy me thinks..
anyone disagree?

also looking back you mistaken inputed the 7970ghz edition which isn't the same

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/854?vs=770