Question New build with 4090 and 14700k

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https://mdcomputers.in/build_your_pc/build_picker/481892

I am building this pc to play latest games on 2k monitor, I also want to use this build for streaming, recording and editing videos. Also for 3D editing. For monitor I am going with either AW2723DF or XG27AQM.

For ram sticks I have option of
CORSAIR 64GB DDR5 (32*2) 6600 MHZ BLACK (C40)
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64GB (32GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz (30-36-36-96)
G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64GB (32GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz Desktop RAM(30-40-40-96)

Motherboard: I chose cheapest only because I have read many comments that you don't need expensive motherboard, please correct me if this is wrong. Also went with simple case and cooler, might change the case later.

Please suggest if I should change/reconsider anything.
 
Hope you have finalised your request with this 3rd thread XD

First things first: with a 4090 and 14700k, you DO NOT want to cheap out on PSU. Get a QUALITY model. Not just in name and spec.

https://mdcomputers.in/deepcool-1000-watt-80-plus-gold-r-pxa00g-fc0b-uk.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

And like i have said previously, during video editing tasks when your cpu is going 100% utilisation and drawing 250W power, you want a mobo with beefy VRMs to handle that. That MSI Pro S has a doubled 12 phase VRM design - garbage.

https://mdcomputers.in/msi-pro-z790-a-wifi-ddr4.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

https://mdcomputers.in/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-ax.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Go with either of the G Skill ram kits. Your choice.

the 14700k going at 250W is a hard to cool CPU when its under load, you really need a good 360 AIO.

I will link this for your reference:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/24.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-icue-link-h150i-rgb/7.html
 
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chadedgar

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Ya I think I won't be changing my mind anymore lol.

For cooler I can go with https://mdcomputers.in/cooler-master-masterliquid-mly-d36m-a23pz-r1.html. Should I go with GPU that comes with liquid cooling?

One of the motherboard you recommended is ddr4, I can go with https://mdcomputers.in/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-ax.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC.

Power supply, you wrote not to cheap out on it but recommended cheaper power supply? I am confused. Also, the power supply you recommended only has 2 SATA connectors, I have 4 additional HDD/SSD so I will need to go for something else. Is it fine if I keep my OS and games on same NVMe drive?
 
Ya I think I won't be changing my mind anymore lol.

For cooler I can go with https://mdcomputers.in/cooler-master-masterliquid-mly-d36m-a23pz-r1.html. Should I go with GPU that comes with liquid cooling?

One of the motherboard you recommended is ddr4, I can go with https://mdcomputers.in/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-ax.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC.

Power supply, you wrote not to cheap out on it but recommended cheaper power supply? I am confused. Also, the power supply you recommended only has 2 SATA connectors, I have 4 additional HDD/SSD so I will need to go for something else. Is it fine if I keep my OS and games on same NVMe drive?

For cooler: the Corsair H150 non i would also be a good deal https://mdcomputers.in/corsair-h150-rgb-cw-9060054-ww.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Ideal choice would be the Galahad II from Lian li or Arctic liquid Freezer II - they have 38mm thick rad compared to the standard 27mm.

If you are set on 14700k, you might as well save some cash and go with DDR4

It looses 5% performance in games and negligible loss in Premier Pro

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ddr5-vs-ddr4-is-it-time-to-upgrade-your-ram

"Adobe Premiere (DDR4-3600 C16 vs. DDR5-5600 C36) were less than 1% and 3%, respectively."

https://mdcomputers.in/corsair-vengeance-lpx-64gb-ddr4-3600mhz-black-cmk64gx4m2d3600c18.html

RGB ram kit: https://www.amazon.in/Patriot-Viper...d=1704462311&sprefix=64gb+ddr4,aps,105&sr=8-9

Regarding PSU, if you remember, i suggested the TT GF A3 1000W (as per availability) before iirc. Now i suggest the PX1000G. Both are Tier A top quality ATX 3.0 PSU. the emphasis is on quality, not the price.


For PC Case:

https://mdcomputers.in/nzxt-h6-flow-black-cc-h61fb-01.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

https://mdcomputers.in/corsair-5000d-airflow-white-cc-9011211-ww.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

https://mdcomputers.in/nzxt-h7-flow-rgb-cm-h71fb-r1.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

https://mdcomputers.in/phanteks-ecl...ph-ec500ga-dbk01a.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC
 
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Will you please explain what does 14700k have to do with DDR4/DDR5 ram?
And should I get cooler for GPU?
For PSU can I go with Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000? I need more at least 5 sata connectors.

Following are finalized parts,

GPU: (Any if price makes sense)

4090 ROG Strix with and without cooler

4090MSI Suprim with and without cooler

4090 Zotac Amp extreme

4090 Zotac Trinity OC

4090 TUF OC

CPU: i7 14700k

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX (Wi-Fi 6E)

Storage: Corsair PRO NH MP600 4TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 (Considering 2TB as well)

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64GB (32GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz (30-36-36-96) (Chose because it is CL30)

Case: Phanteks Eclipse G500A DRGB (Because has 3+ HDD slots)

Cooler: (one of these)

Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL360 Flux

Corsair H150

Lian Li Galahad II LCD

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II
 
14700k supports both ddr4 and ddr5 rams. The support is based on the mobo.

The MSI pro A Z790 DDR4 version runs on ddr4 rams and the performance loss in gaming is about 5% in the 14700k compared to using ddr5 - as explained the article I liked above. The same is true for premier pro as well. Since you are on a budget, get the 64gb ddr4 rams and MSI board. The MSI board has 6 sata ports.

Only ryzen needs cl30 rams. Intel is fine with cl36 as well. But go for ddr4 here and use the saved cash elsewhere.

You don't really need a liquid cooled card. All the 4090 models above are good. Choose the one you like most.

Regarding ssd, it might be better going with 2 X 2tb ssd. One ssd as read disk amd the other as write disk when you are working on projects in premier pro.
Get the Kingston kc3000 2tb.

For Cooler, get the galahad II if it's available.

The deepcool PX1000G performs slightly better than the GF A3 and is cheaper in India iirc.
 
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I am almost done finalizing my build. I am not exactly on budget, I am going to use this PC for next 5-6 years, so if I should change anything for futureproofing it, then please let me know. For now I only need to change the case because I have limited space under my desk and Phanteks Eclipse G500A DRGB barely fits there. Can I go with Lian Li Lancool II Mesh?

For PSU I will go with your suggestion, if I understand right modern motherboards' can power SSD/HDD from SATA cable right? Otherwise I will go with thermaltake. My current PC is decade old so I am little unfamiliar.

Final build,
GPU: 4090 ROG Strix with and without cooler
CPU: i7 14700k
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX (Wi-Fi 6E)
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000
Storage: 2x Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blade 2TB M.2 NVMe Gen4
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64GB (32GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz (30-36-36-96)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II LCD 360
Monitor: AW2723DF or XG27AQM
 
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