New build won't POST, No Video. Fans running. ASUS Z97

[reggie178]

I spent all day yesterday trying to find out why this new build won't post.

Processor/Mobo
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Intel 4690k
Asus Z97-AR

Graphics
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EVGA GTX 660 FTW SIG II

Case
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NZXT Phantom 530

From my old pc
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Anter Basiq 500w (pretty old) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004
PNY 1333 MHz (from my old build) - http://www3.pny.com/8GB-Kit-2x4GB-PC3-10666-1333MHz-DDR3-Desktop-DIMMs-P2945C368.aspx
Seagate Barracuda...

I went through all of the troubleshooting procedures.

1.Checked the video card in my old build
2.Ran it without the video card
3.Used different monitors and connectors
4.Breadboard
5.All ram combinations in different slots
6.Unplugged everything but PSU/Ram/Processor
7.EXCHANGED THE BOARD
8.Checked for proper cpu socketing
9.Attached a speaker (no beeps)
10.Checked my psu on old build
11.CPU fan is plugged in
12.4 pin connector is plugged in
13.Cleared CMOS

My thoughts are that the ram may be too old though I doubt it. The motherboard supports an 8 pin connector however my PSU only has 4 but that shouldn't matter. Maybe I am missing something.

 

[Andrew Buck]

That PSU may be dead. Try a different one with a known brand. Try reseating your CPU as well.

 

[notherdude]

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems

 

[Andrew Buck]

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems

Yes, follow that ^

 

[reggie178]

Sorry, I posted this a tad bit too early without the information

 

[notherdude]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

You have tried most of the stuff and put a lot of good effrot in BTW,, since the PSU is old I would try another, I know it still starts the older system but maybe the new build doesn't like it, don't know what else to try off top of head

 

[reggie178]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

Np, I accidentally clicked post hoping it would take me to a larger edit screen. I followed that guide thoroughly.

 

[Andrew Buck]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

Np, I accidentally clicked post hoping it would take me to a larger edit screen. I followed that guide thoroughly.

Good. Take out RAM and see if it makes 3 beeps.

 

[reggie178]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

Np, I accidentally clicked post hoping it would take me to a larger edit screen. I followed that guide thoroughly.

Good. Take out RAM and see if it makes 3 beeps.

I did, nothing. Both boards.

 

[Andrew Buck]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

Np, I accidentally clicked post hoping it would take me to a larger edit screen. I followed that guide thoroughly.

Good. Take out RAM and see if it makes 3 beeps.

I did, nothing. Both boards.

Reseat the CPU one more time, make sure that it makes contact with all pins and that none on the motherboards are bent.

 

[notherdude]

If you start without RAM do you get a RAM error beep?

(never mind, LOL)

 

[Andrew Buck]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

 

[reggie178]

If you start without RAM do you get a RAM error beep?

(never mind, LOL)

Yeah...lol

 

[reggie178]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

I meant the 4 pin near the cpu. The main power is plugged in. It's possible that the speaker is dead but that would just be super shitty luck.

 

[Andrew Buck]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

I meant the 4 pin near the cpu. The main power is plugged in. It's possible that the speaker is dead but that would just be super shitty luck.

Yes, 4 pins there isn't much. I recommend at least 8 pins there. Try a different PSU (borrow one or buy a new one) with 8 pins, like the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014.

 

[notherdude]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

I meant the 4 pin near the cpu. The main power is plugged in. It's possible that the speaker is dead but that would just be super shitty luck.

The rule of thumb has been that CPUs do not need all 8 pins plugged in (4 is fine) unless they are heavily overclockd AMD monsters - I doubt this has changed but what does the motherboard manual say about the CPU aux connector? Might be worth trying a different PSU anyway since you have ruled out so much else. Also, maybe try some different RAM on the approved vendors list?

 

[Andrew Buck]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

I meant the 4 pin near the cpu. The main power is plugged in. It's possible that the speaker is dead but that would just be super shitty luck.

The rule of thumb has been that CPUs do not need all 8 pins plugged in (4 is fine) unless they are heavily overclockd AMD monsters - I doubt this has changed but what does the motherboard manual say about the CPU aux connector? Might be worth trying a different PSU anyway since you have ruled out so much else. Also, maybe try some different RAM on the approved vendors list?

It is worth a shot to have 8 pins plugged in.

 

[Andrew Buck]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

I meant the 4 pin near the cpu. The main power is plugged in. It's possible that the speaker is dead but that would just be super shitty luck.

The rule of thumb has been that CPUs do not need all 8 pins plugged in (4 is fine) unless they are heavily overclockd AMD monsters - I doubt this has changed but what does the motherboard manual say about the CPU aux connector? Might be worth trying a different PSU anyway since you have ruled out so much else. Also, maybe try some different RAM on the approved vendors list?

It is worth a shot to have 8 pins plugged in.

 

[reggie178]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

Np, I accidentally clicked post hoping it would take me to a larger edit screen. I followed that guide thoroughly.

Good. Take out RAM and see if it makes 3 beeps.

I did, nothing. Both boards.

Reseat the CPU one more time, make sure that it makes contact with all pins and that none on the motherboards are bent.

I'm at work but the CPU has been re-seated seeing that I swapped out the board at Micro center yesterday...

 

[notherdude]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=45&m=Z97-AR&os=&hashedid=UuW64OxQtdP1ysIz

Seems to suggest a BIOS upgrade is needed to support that CPU.

Supported since ver. 1008

If that is the case you could put in older CPU to do the upgrade or else take it to Microcenter and have them do it.

 

[Andrew Buck]

Just saw the edit which came in after the responses.

Np, I accidentally clicked post hoping it would take me to a larger edit screen. I followed that guide thoroughly.

Good. Take out RAM and see if it makes 3 beeps.

I did, nothing. Both boards.

Reseat the CPU one more time, make sure that it makes contact with all pins and that none on the motherboards are bent.

I'm at work but the CPU has been re-seated seeing that I swapped out the board at Micro center yesterday...

Bring it to microcenter and see if they can test it on their systems there. If they can't do that, head over to a PC repair place and see if they can test it.

 

[reggie178]

Try another speaker, that may be dead. My motherboard has 12 CPU pins to plug into, plugging in only 4 won't do you much good.

I meant the 4 pin near the cpu. The main power is plugged in. It's possible that the speaker is dead but that would just be super shitty luck.

The rule of thumb has been that CPUs do not need all 8 pins plugged in (4 is fine) unless they are heavily overclockd AMD monsters - I doubt this has changed but what does the motherboard manual say about the CPU aux connector? Might be worth trying a different PSU anyway since you have ruled out so much else. Also, maybe try some different RAM on the approved vendors list?

I will be picking up some ram first thing after work today. What is the aux connector?

 

[reggie178]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=45&m=Z97-AR&os=&hashedid=UuW64OxQtdP1ysIz

Seems to suggest a BIOS upgrade is needed to support that CPU.

Supported since ver. 1008

I also thought about that one but how would I upgrade the bios if I can't see anything?

 

[notherdude]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=45&m=Z97-AR&os=&hashedid=UuW64OxQtdP1ysIz

Seems to suggest a BIOS upgrade is needed to support that CPU.

Supported since ver. 1008

I also thought about that one but how would I upgrade the bios if I can't see anything?

with an older cpu, or take it to microcenter, also the bios ver. should be printed on the MOBO box, maybe

 

[Andrew Buck]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=45&m=Z97-AR&os=&hashedid=UuW64OxQtdP1ysIz

Seems to suggest a BIOS upgrade is needed to support that CPU.

Supported since ver. 1008

I also thought about that one but how would I upgrade the bios if I can't see anything?

You would have to borrow a 4670K or 1150 socket CPU and update it there, then put your CPU back in.