New Comer to Watercooling

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I currently own an Antec 900 that is modded for good cable management, hole in the bottom for psu fan to be mounted correctly, and every 120mm fan slot filled. As you can expect my case is not quiet! With 8 fans running at once the thing sounds like a jet, and needs to be turned off at night for me to be able to sleep in the same room as it. Great for overclocking though =) But I would now like to finally make the switch to water cooling. I realize the Antec 900 is going to be a challenge, but im very use to modding to make things work and look good. The thing im not so good at / dont know much about is water cooling. I have read some beginners guides and learned as much as i can, but now i would like suggestions on what to buy. I have seen people suggesting the Swiftech H20-220 kit, and others saying your better off going without a kit and buying all the pieces. The problem i have with that kit and probably others is the fact i would like to cool my gpu.. and possibly my PWN. Im willing to spend up to $500 on the total maybe a little more, but certainly less would be better. All help / suggestions will be greatly appreciated, and thanks in advance!
 

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I run WC and have 10 fans...6 on my rads alone. WC doesn't necessarily mean silent...it just depends on your expectations, what you are cooling and what you have to work with. It sounds like you have a pretty good budget (~$500) to get some great components. Look around for posts in WC by Conumdrum...he has a copy/paste with a lot of goodies in there. Read up and take your time figuring out what you need.
 

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First you need to figure out exactly what you want to water cool. A list of your system specs would also be helpful.

Assuming you want to cool your CPU and GPU at a minimum you will need a dual 120mm radiator and probably should go for a triple 120mm radiator. You will want a CPU cooler, a full coverage GPU cooler that will cool the memory and mosfets as well as the GPU, a pump, tubing, clamps, and a reservoir (or use a t-line).

Some good places to buy watercooling parts are:
www.dangerden.com
www. petrastechshop.com
www.frozencpu.com

If you provide a list or your system specs I can give you more specifics.
 

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Specs are as follows:
Q6600 at 3.8ghz w/Tuniq 120
Abit IP35-E
EVGA GTX 280 FTW
Gskill 2X2GB 1333mhz
Corsair 620HX
2x1TB 7200 series Seagates

My overall goal out of all of this is to make my computer slightly more quiet but keep as good if not better cooling. The parts i want to cool are my CPU,GPU and if i can PWM. The part i need help with is picking out quality parts to achieve what i want, so a parts list from one of you would be appreciated.
 

semlethe3rd

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Never heard of PWM on a motherboard? i believe most have a sensor for it. I know mine does, and its the only part of my board keeping me from overclocking my Q6600 higher. I guess for now i can just stick with asking for help picking parts only for my CPU and GPU. =)
 
Most boards have PWM (pulse width modulation) used to control fans. Sensors are usually mounted on the fan and not on the motherboard. Also try SpeedFan if you want to control fan speeds.


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/252455-29-water-cooled-computer#t1801333

Note: OP, any specific reason for going water cooling? Your Q6600 has a VERY good OC on it already, as it usually clocks only to 3.6Ghz stable (P95 6+hrs).
 

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Im not referring to pulse width modulation... on the Abit IP35-E the heat sinks near the CPU are referred to as PWM. Trust me i know in depth how / what pulse width modulation is because I have programed a variety of things to use it. Thank you for referencing conumdrums post I have already read it before but it was useful. All im looking for here a list of parts with links that people could suggest, thats all =). I realize my Q6600 is an excellent overclocker but thats not the purpose of this at all, as stated above i have an antec 900 that sounds like a jet, i would like to keep my cooling, if not improve it.. but lose the noise associated with it. Thank you for any future suggestions.
 

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If we haven't heard of waterblocks for a specific component, then they probably don't exist. I was assuming you meant the MOSFETs or something. Can you drop a link for PWM?

You still haven't said exactly what you want to cool...CPU only? GPU? To really get going you need to know what your plans are...otherwise, suggesting pumps and rads is difficult based on lack of information.
 

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Look up IP35-E PWM and you will find results for what im referring to but it doesnt matter at this point, and yes it is a mosfet but for some reason the manual referrs to it as PWM.

Anyways, i did mention i want to cool my CPU and my GPU and thats it for now forget the PWM.

My current thoughts are as follows:
HK 3.0 cpu block
XSPC RX360
MCP355 18W pump with the XSPC reservoir top
Primochill Primoflex Pro LRT

Suggestions on changes and a gpu block will be appreciated.
 
^Swap block to GTZ (worth it esp. if you plan to go to an i7 (or what ever comes down the road later). The pump would be fine, but I recommend the MCP655(~2.5x the flow of the MCP355). This would help esp. if adding multiple high restriction blocks.

Don't bother cooling MOSFETs. Just attach some MOSFET heatsinks (if it dosen't already have it) and/or a low RPM (or low dB ) fan.
 

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MCP355 (DDC v3.2) is a decent pump for single-waterblock loop if paired with a XSPC Res top, but cost/performance wise the MCP655 (Laing D5) is still better.
Remember it's not just about the flow rate @0'. You have to look at the entire flowrate vs. pressure curve and find out which section your particular loop lands.
Martin's flowrate Excel spreadsheet (downloadable from XS) is most helpful in determining that.

I always use a GPU-only waterblock and never a full-cover block for performance and cost reasons. Using a Swiftech MCW60-R atm. For dealing with MOSFETs I custom make them from heatsink slabs. But for others full-cover blocks might be the better option if no suitable MOSFET cooling can be found. Just remember if you go full-cover, you won't be able to use it on another gfx card when upgrading.
 

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I also use the MCW-60's on my SLI setup...I love those suckers...they cool great. RAMsinks are necessary, though, but I love that I can use the blocks on several models of cards with a $9 bracket change instead of dropping $120 on a full cover block each time...
 

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The new champ in GPU-only block seems to be Dtek FuZion gfx v2 now according to various data, which wasn't available when I purchased the MCW60-R(the rev.2 one). Marginally better performance and much better pressure drop. Certainly nothing like the flow-killer of FuZion gfx v1.
Jab-tech has them for around the same price as MCW60-R I think.
 

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