New Computer for Parents

[kaliuga]

Approximate Purchase Date: Locally, asap. (There is a Canada Computers in town.)

Budget Range: Anywhere between 400-700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mother Facebooks, Father Youtubes, NFL stuff (Internet usage, youtubing and that is it)

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Everything from scratch

Do you need to buy OS: Yes W10

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Canadacomputers.com first and foremost. If there is a deal, then online will be second but it isn't super necessary

Location: London, ON, CA

Parts Preferences: Intel, Samsung

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920*1080

Additional Comments: I have only personally built high end computers for myself but when my parents asked for a new computer, I said I could do one up for them that would probably be cheaper than a default store bought. I'm not confident on my ability to cut corners to save them money but also for them to have something that is current would be great. The only real preference is the inclusion of a 256gb SSD for their OS. They are EXTREMELY basic in terms of internet usage but their current computer is pretty old and nothing can be salvaged from it.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Parents have an old PC that is running Vista that is 8+ years old.

 

[g-unit1111]

This is a little bit over budget with OS but here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($117.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card ($145.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($53.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($19.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $781.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 16:53 EDT-0400

Without OS it's $666.86.

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

No GPU as the iGPU will be fine for their usage.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($150.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($97.99 @ PC Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($125.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $718.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 16:56 EDT-0400

With cheaper SSD to stay within budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($150.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($97.99 @ PC Canada)
Storage: Kingston - SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $692.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 16:57 EDT-0400


Or with HDD instead to lower the cost even more

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($150.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($97.99 @ PC Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.95 @ Vuugo)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $647.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 16:58 EDT-0400

 

[g-unit1111]

No GPU as the iGPU will be fine for their usage.

AMD Ryzen doesn't have onboard GPU, so yes a GPU would be needed in this case.

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

No GPU as the iGPU will be fine for their usage.

AMD Ryzen doesn't have onboard GPU, so yes a GPU would be needed in this case.

That was for my I3-8100 build, not a comment to your build.

Also from OP

Parts Preferences: Intel, Samsung

 

[geofelt]

G4560 or G4600 is more than enough for cpu. Integrated graphics will be all you need, it will play back HD movies.
H110 motherboard is sufficient if you can guarantee a bios later than 12.2016. Otherwise a B250 motherboard.

To my mind, the key to the build is a ssd. 250gb is plenty. Samsung evo, either 2.5" sata or m.2.
Buy a hard drive only if you will store many large sequential files such as videos.
One can always add a hard drive later.

Cases are a personal thing, but I really like the quality of the lian li ITX cases.
One of my favorites is the Q07 which is only 8.19" x 7.60" x 11.02"
You may have to go to ebay to find one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lian-Li-HTPC-Case-PC-Q07-MICRO-Tower-Mini-ITX-Black-Aluminum-Home-Theater-Case/282685537058?epid=1402250763&hash=item41d15efb22:g:v6UAAOSwHtFZ2WU-

If not ITX, buy no larger than ATX. You are not going to use any of the slots, excepting perhaps one for a wifi card.
For a psu, you need only about 300w.
Seasonic is always good quality.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

G4560 or G4600 is more than enough for cpu. Integrated graphics will be all you need, it will play back HD movies.
H110 motherboard is sufficient if you can guarantee a bios later than 12.2016. Otherwise a B250 motherboard.

To my mind, the key to the build is a ssd. 250gb is plenty. Samsung evo, either 2.5" sata or m.2.
Buy a hard drive only if you will store many large sequential files such as videos.
One can always add a hard drive later.

Cases are a personal thing, but I really like the quality of the lian li ITX cases.
One of my favorites is the Q07 which is only 8.19" x 7.60" x 11.02"
You may have to go to ebay to find one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lian-Li-HTPC-Case-PC-Q07-MICRO-Tower-Mini-ITX-Black-Aluminum-Home-Theater-Case/282685537058?epid=1402250763&hash=item41d15efb22:g:v6UAAOSwHtFZ2WU-

If not ITX, buy no larger than ATX. You are not going to use any of the slots, excepting perhaps one for a wifi card.
For a psu, you need only about 300w.
Seasonic is always good quality.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086

Please link a 300W PSU that is not a crap and unsafe unit? The Seasonic SS doesn't have OCP (Over Current Protection) and is thus not a safe unit.

But a build with your suggestions

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($71.99 @ PC Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($70.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($97.99 @ PC Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($125.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $560.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 17:20 EDT-0400

 

[Vic 40]

For what your parents do with it something like this,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($71.99 @ PC Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($102.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($125.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.95 @ Vuugo)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($53.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $689.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 17:27 EDT-0400

Don't know if they need the extra storage but put it in anyway,can be taken out of the build as easily.The next ssd would make it cheaper.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kwkwrH/western-digital-blue-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds250g1b0a

 

[geofelt]

Perfect.
I have used these on a couple of small builds:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086
Here is a quality list:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086
The Seasonic S12II 430w is tier 2 on the list for not much more:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Perfect.
I have used these on a couple of small builds:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086

Again, they are not safe units. I would never suggest a PSU that doesn't have ALL the safety/protection circuits installed.
Basically any PSU below tier 3 are not safe https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
Just search these forums a bit and you will see why and what happens to peoples systems when an unsafe unit fails.

 

[Vic 40]

Perfect.
I have used these on a couple of small builds:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086
Here is a quality list:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086

Links are the same. 😉

Just search these forums a bit and you will see why and what happens to peoples systems when an unsafe unit fails.

Keep mouse cursor on his avatar and see how long he's already around here.:lol:

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Perfect.
I have used these on a couple of small builds:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086
Here is a quality list:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151086
The Seasonic S12II 430w is tier 2 on the list for not much more:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

That Seasonic is a Tier 4 at the tier list from Linus. The list here at Toms is not updated and doesn't take safety into consideration. It's a decent quality PSU yes, but lacks OCP (Over Current Protection). At the Linus list, only completely safe units can be rated tier 3 or above.
Please do some research before suggesting more unsafe units. We don't wanna suggest a PSU that could set his parents computer on fire because a short in the system causing the current to sky rocket.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

 

[kaliuga]

For what your parents do with it something like this,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($71.99 @ PC Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($102.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($125.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.95 @ Vuugo)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($53.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($114.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $689.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-31 17:27 EDT-0400

Don't know if they need the extra storage but put it in anyway,can be taken out of the build as easily.The next ssd would make it cheaper.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kwkwrH/western-digital-blue-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds250g1b0a

I will most likely go with this as it looks and sounds what I am looking for.