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Hello everyone,
I have a pre-built computer from Cyber Power PC, and the fan is pretty loud. I think it is the CPU fan, which is the stock Intel cooler. My specs are:
Intel I5-7400
AMD Radeon RX 580 4 gb
8 GB DDR4 Ram 2400
ASUS B250m-A motherboard
1 TB Hard drive
500W Power supply

Any recommendations on CPU fans? I want to spend under $100 at least, but around $50 is ideal. BTW my theme is red, thanks in advance.
 
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I would make sure that the CPU fan is the problem before going any further. Usually, these, no offense, really, cheap ass Cyberpower PC and iBuypowerPC units have case fans that get connected directly to PSU four pin molex connectors, instead of being connected to the motherboard fan headers, and so they run at 100% speed all the time.

The Kaby Lake stock CPU cooler is definitely louder than an aftermarket cooler, but it shouldn't be THAT loud to the point where it's a real problem.

Possible, everybody has a different sensitivity, so it's hard to say. I would pull the side panel and make sure of where the problem or noise is coming from.


In order to recommend an aftermarket cooler, we would need to know what case model they used for your unit. Cases all have different limitations on what height of cooler can be used, and often the clearance that is allowed is less than 1mm from the side panel, so knowing the case model in order to determine exactly how high the cooler can be is absolutely critical unless you are willing to only use a low profile cooler. Which is definitely an option too, but will not cool as well as a tower cooler.

 
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Thank you for responding,
I believe that you are right about the case fans. I can hear them clearly through my headset even when Idle. Is there any way I could fix this without buying new ones? If not, is there any 120 mm case fan that you would recommend? Also my case dimensions is 406 mm x 203 mm x 470 mm (LWH), and I am still looking for a CPU fan, as my thermals haven't been ideal.
 
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It depends on what kind of fans it came with. There are three pin, four pin and some fans only have full time power through four pin molex power coming straight from the PSU. If you can connect any given fan to a controllable fan header on the motherboard, either directly or using cable splitters if there are too many fans for the number of available fan headers on the board, that is usually a much better option.

Other options include purchasing a fan hub that will allow you to only need one motherboard fan header in order to control many case fans. These can usually be found for 20-40 dollars, but require that the fans have three or four pin small connectors, rather than only having one large four pin Molex connector. Still would be great to know the case model. That would help with selecting a cooler AND with knowing what fans you have.

Case model might be identified via unit model.
 
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I have researched into the case, but I couldn't find anything. Here is the link to where I bought it https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0747W15QL/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B0747W15QL&pd_rd_r=1edbba6e-14db-11e8-a28c-89c23149c043&pd_rd_w=k0ZHc&pd_rd_wg=osOIw&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=S8K5VWGDANX1HP1WH6JH&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=e6624b56-7cc1-411f-9d12-9cc8feb6c214&pf_rd_i=desktop

FYI my measurements were off, it is better listed on the link. I also found that two of the fans are plugged into the Motherboard, and they are both four pin connectors. Not sure where the others are.
 
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Looks like it is the Masterbox Lite 5 case.

http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/masterbox-lite-5/


It will support CPU coolers up to 160mm in height.

Are you wanting an air cooler or a water cooler? I recommend using an air cooler, for many reasons. The best of which is the fact that I don't like water anywhere my electronics. Any chance of a leak is too much chance of a leak in my opinion.
 
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I definitely want an air cooler, mostly because of leaks but also because I don't need it for an i5, especially a locked one.
 
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I would be looking at the Cryorig H7, Cryorig H5 or Noctua NH-U12S, primarily. The Noctua will be quieter, the H5 will probably perform marginally better. Any of them are good choices but the Noctua is, of course, more expensive. Higher quality usually is.

Another decent quiet option, although not likely as good a performer as those three, would be the BeQuiet Shadow rock slim.
 
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Thank you so much. I might get the cooler as a gift, so I might go for the Noctua. By any chance, is there some case fans you would recommend? I would prefer if they are red. BTW, the fan slots on the motherboard are listed here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B250M-A/specifications/ Under "Internal IO Ports"
 
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Ok, so it's actually the Masterbox Lite 5 RGB, and it has half, and I say that casually, HALF decent fans. Also, they are RGB fans, so you should be able to change them to red with the right controller. Seems your board doesn't have Aura RGB controls, so again, stupid CyberpowerPC for using a case that comes with RGB fans, but not including an RGB capable motherboard.

Before worrying about changing the fans, I'd first go into the bios, find the Qfan control settings and fiddle with those to see if you can get a comfortable sound level by changing to silent or setting your own fan profile. Shouldn't be hard, and I don't think I'd recommend spending the money on new fans when those are halfway decent, if they are actually the ones that are supposed to come in that case and CyberpowerPC didn't swap them out for some cheap models. If those are the right fans there will probably be a three way splitter connecting those front fans to the motherboard and there should also be another cable on each fan, likely joined together with another three way splitter, that are not going to anything since the motherboard does not have anyplace to connect those RGB wires to.
 
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Sorry to bother you more, but I can't seem to get to my bios. It will only boot to windows, and there is no ASUS screen while it is booting. I have already tried delete, F2, and doing the UEFI thing through windows settings.
 
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Shut down. Power on. As SOON as you push the button for power on, start rapid fire spamming the delete OR F2 key repeatedly, as fast as you can, and continue until you enter the bios. Might take a couple of tries. Most likely the Ultra fast boot setting is enabled.

It's also possible that USB support is disabled until after the POST sequence, which is a setting that some boards have in their bios. It is not a default setting and would likely have been done by CyberpowerPC. You may need to remove the CMOS battery or jump the CMOS reset pins, or push the CMOS clear button if your board has one. Do any of those with the power off and disconnected, then put it all back, power on and spam the f2 or delete button.

 
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Sorry for responding late,
I found that the noise is all from the case fans, and they are plugged into the PSU. I don't think going into the BIOS will change the noise level. I have 4 case fans, but only 2 4 pin connector areas for them. Any way I can connect all of those?
 
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They actually look different. I think that they replaced them with different fans. The label on them reads, "Apevia"
 
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Then they certainly did replace them with other fans because they should have been Cooler Master fans.

Is there a model number listed on that label, or can you tell if they actually have the correct three or four pin small connections to connect to the motherboard fan headers? Are they using adapters to connect the four pin PSU molex power cables to regular three or four pin fan connectors from the fans?
 
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Here is the images of the fans and the case. please tell if you want more.
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Yeah, those definitely didn't come with the case, at least, not when it came from Cooler Master. Can you take a picture of the cables that come from the fans, to where it is that they either connect to an adapter or are connected to the Molex power connectors from the PSU?

I'm trying to determine if you CAN use those fans connected to the motherboard or if you absolutely need to buy new fans. Good fans are not cheap, that is why I am trying to help you avoid having to do that if possible.
 
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Ok, I am finally back with more pictures, sorry for answering so late. I have a weird modular power supply, so I can, tell exactly where they go, and they are also wrapped in the 24 pin connector sleeve. I do think that they are 3 pin, although a lot of these cables look very similar.

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Why is the an "unused" fan cable? Looks like all four fans are running to me?

Too hard to tell anything like that. You might need to clip a few of those zip ties and trace one of those fan cable to see where it actually connects. Are ANY of the fan cables connected to the motherboard, or are they ALL connected directly to the PSU. Or do they run to a fan hub? I can't tell anything from that spaghetti mess of wiring LOL.
 
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