[SOLVED] new CPU upgrade

[Ratbag2]

My current pc build:
intel pentium g4560
Msi H110M PRO-D
RX 580 8GB
Crucial DDR4 1x8GB 2133MHz ram
1tb hdd
120 gb ssd
500 W psu

I'm looking to upgrade my current cpu at around 130 euros. Any suggestions? Cpu will mostly be used for gaming.

 

[Lutfij]

You're looking square at 7th Gen Intel Core i3's, provided you have the latest BIOS update on your motherboard. Mind sharing the make and model of your PSU?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

An I7 6700 would work there and give you a nice boost with clockspeed and is a 4c/8t CPU. If you can get one at 130e is another story. Maybe second hand on ebay.

 

[BringerOfTea]

look for second hand ones, as Keith here suggested. the best you can get is probably a 6700.

 

[herrwizo]

Yeah, i would never upgrade G4560 to an i3, which is basically the same CPU (2 cores + 2 threads). If anything, the number of threads available will botteneck your gaming experience in most recent titles, so I'd second the above suggestion - try to find i7 6700 if you can. Even 2nd hand, if you have to, but it is well worth it to have 8 threads today.

 

[Ratbag2]

You're looking square at 7th Gen Intel Core i3's, provided you have the latest BIOS update on your motherboard. Mind sharing the make and model of your PSU?

Psu model: 500 W psu FSP500-60APN

 

[Ratbag2]

An I7 6700 would work there and give you a nice boost with clockspeed and is a 4c/8t CPU. If you can get one at 130e is another story. Maybe second hand on ebay.

Hmm... looks like 170e for a used i7 6700. A little over the budget imo

 

[BringerOfTea]

do not know how power hungry the 580 is, but im thinking you are a bit short. Even if the manufacturer is well reputed.

 

[chickenballs]

why not a i5 6600?
the i5 6600 and i7 6700 have almost identical gaming performance

 

[herrwizo]

It is somewhere around 180W TDP mark, so when we include the rest of the rig it is actually fine. The new CPU, though, will change that equation. Pentium almost doesn't need any power, but an i7... that would increase the draw by at least 60W more in practice. PSU upgrade would be required in such case. This particular PSU is fine, but nothing spectacular, and with only 3 years of warranty doesn't really look like a durable long-term unit.

IMO, any upgrade except i7 is not worth it. i3 is the same as Pentium G, i5 is marginally faster than i3 but still has only 4 threads overall and lacks power in most recent titles (BF1 and BF5 will eat i5s alive). It is basically "go big or go home" situation.

 

[BringerOfTea]

the i5 6600k --- minute stutters in bf1
the i7 6700k --- stutters gone

So if you are planning for bfV save a bit more and spring for the I7.

 

[Ratbag2]

do not know how power hungry the 580 is, but im thinking you are a bit short. Even if the manufacturer is well reputed.

Went on a psu wattage calculator. My load Wattage is 387 W.

 

[chickenballs]

please show me some benchmarks in which a Skylake/Kabylake i5 would hold back a RX580

 

[BringerOfTea]

I do not trust "calculators" according to AMD 500 is required, so you are within the margin.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-580

But why the upgrade? what do you want to game more enjoyable?

 

[chickenballs]

exactly
hes not trying to play bf1 or v or whatever with a gtx 1080

 

[Ratbag2]

I do not trust "calculators" according to AMD 500 is required, so you are within the margin.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-580

But why the upgrade? what do you want to game more enjoyable?

Most games are fine.. but game like Just Cause 3 or BF 1 or Dishonored 2 perform really bad. Droppping to around 45-35 from 60 fps and stuttering. The 2 cores and 4 threads are a problem imo.

 

[BringerOfTea]

Yeah... well if you can save the amount up to get a used 6700. I would get it, where are you located?

 

[Ratbag2]

Yeah... well if you can save the amount up to get a used 6700. I would get it, where are you located?

Latvia. I checked our local re-selling site (ss.com) and there's only lga 1155 or 1150 cpu's. On ebay it's around 30 dollars for shipping. An i7 6700 seems like a nice choice tbh. Gonna look out for used ones on the market.

 

[chickenballs]

sry OP didnt see that you are only using one stick of RAM
Crucial DDR4 1x8GB 2133MHz ram

check out this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8AdbIfTwDs
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3437603/ddr4-single-channel-dual-channel.html
get another 8gb stick you should see some improvements

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

the i5 6600k --- minute stutters in bf1
the i7 6700k --- stutters gone

So if you are planning for bfV save a bit more and spring for the I7.

exactly. a 6600 will give same FPS as a 6700, but will stutter. 4c/4t max out. Not smooth specially for BF1/V

 

[Ratbag2]

sry OP didnt see that you are only using one stick of RAM
Crucial DDR4 1x8GB 2133MHz ram

check out this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8AdbIfTwDs
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3437603/ddr4-single-channel-dual-channel.html
get another 8gb stick you should see some improvements

Wow! That's a nice fps boost. I should get another 8gb 2133MHz ram stick? Can i get a different model or should i go for the same model?

 

[chickenballs]

try to get the same as you have now
different speeds might work (depending on how picky the MB is and RAM timings), but it is not recommended. For the best performance and stability, stick with identical DIMMs.