Question New First Timer Semi-Budget Gaming Rig Set Up

[volcomstar64]

I am finally getting around to building my very first PC. I intend to use it for light-gaming on preferably ultra or high-graphics mode. I don't plan on going with liquid cooling at the moment but its still a possibility for me considering the large chasis that I bought. I haven't been into the PC-gaming world for quite some time. I used to play WoW only, but I plan on getting into some newer games as well. Here are the list of components that I bought to build my gaming PC. Please let me know if you would swap something out. Please keep in mind I'm trying to keep this under a budget and don't have much more money to throw into it (at the moment, maybe in the near future) Would I be able to get started on what I have? And what would you upgrade in the future?

Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Z 30SB150200000 5.1 Channels 24-bit PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card

PSU: CORSAIR RMx Series RM650x 2018 CP-9020178-NA 650W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX

Chasis: LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic Razer Edition Black Tempered Glass on the Front, and Left Side, Chassis Body SECC ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case - PC-O11D Razer

RAM: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)

Cooler: MSI CPU Cooler, Silver/Black (Core Frozr L) (MSI Core Frozr L)

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler - YD2600BBAFBOX

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow X Chroma - RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Military Grade Metal Construction

Mouse: RAZER Mamba Tournament Edition Chroma Gaming Mouse

Monitor: LG 34GL750-B 34 Inch 21: 9 Ultragear Curved Wfhd (2560 X 1080) IPS 144Hz G-SYNC Compatible Gaming Monitor,Black

 

[Eximo]

Ditch the sound card and bump up to a Ryzen 3600, motherboard is going to have a fairly decent sound chipset. (Realtek ALC 1220)

Typical to build with an M.2 NVMe SSD instead of SATA these days.

 

[logainofhades]

Do not buy that board. It's vrm's are terrible. I agree on ditching the sound card, and getting a better CPU. You can most likely get a faster NVME drive, for less than that 860 evo.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PkZwY9PWM

 

[Why_Me]

I am finally getting around to building my very first PC. I intend to use it for light-gaming on preferably ultra or high-graphics mode. I don't plan on going with liquid cooling at the moment but its still a possibility for me considering the large chasis that I bought. I haven't been into the PC-gaming world for quite some time. I used to play WoW only, but I plan on getting into some newer games as well. Here are the list of components that I bought to build my gaming PC. Please let me know if you would swap something out. Please keep in mind I'm trying to keep this under a budget and don't have much more money to throw into it (at the moment, maybe in the near future) Would I be able to get started on what I have? And what would you upgrade in the future?

Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Z 30SB150200000 5.1 Channels 24-bit PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card

PSU: CORSAIR RMx Series RM650x 2018 CP-9020178-NA 650W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX

Chasis: LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic Razer Edition Black Tempered Glass on the Front, and Left Side, Chassis Body SECC ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case - PC-O11D Razer

RAM: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)

Cooler: MSI CPU Cooler, Silver/Black (Core Frozr L) (MSI Core Frozr L)

Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler - YD2600BBAFBOX

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow X Chroma - RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Military Grade Metal Construction

Mouse: RAZER Mamba Tournament Edition Chroma Gaming Mouse

Monitor: LG 34GL750-B 34 Inch 21: 9 Ultragear Curved Wfhd (2560 X 1080) IPS 144Hz G-SYNC Compatible Gaming Monitor,Black

You've already purchased these components? This thread would have made a whole lot more sense if it had been created before you purchased. That build isn't balanced. You have a ton of money invested into the monitor and motherboard and you skimped on the cpu.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS LGA 1200 SATA 6Gb/s ATX $119.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...e-date-specifications-performance-all-we-know
Intel 11th gen Rocket Lake i5 - 11400F ($170 if I had to guess)

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PK-R1-Contact-Silencio/dp/B07H25DYM3
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Cooler $39.99

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884
G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CL16 $79.99

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250135
Western Digital WD Blue SN550 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 3D NAND Internal SSD $104.99

Intel Rocket Lake hard launch tipped for Monday 15th March

And the same Hong Kong-based source says that ADL-S delivers a 20 per cent IPC uplift.

hexus.net

Intel 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPU Pre-Orders Open Two Weeks Before Reviews - Full Unveil on 16th March, Sales on 30th March

Intel will be launching its 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPU lineup on 16th of March with pre-orders opening up two weeks prior to sales and reviews.

wccftech.com

Here's two reviews of the current Intel 10th gen Comet Lake i5 10400F. Expect the newer Rocket Lake version of that chip (i5 11400F) to pump out better numbers.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

https://4youdaily.com/technology-an...cessor-review-do-you-still-like-ryzen-5-3600/
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i5-11400-rocket-lake-cpu-performance
Intel Core i5-11400 Rocket Lake CPU Annihilates Its 10th Gen Predecessor In Benchmark Leak

 

[Eximo]

Given the markets, not sure pricing on shiny new components will fit in the unknown budget.

Probably a reason the 2600 was chosen over a more recent processor, still the 3600 is a good jump up for only $10.

 

[volcomstar64]

Sweet, thanks for all the input everyone. Given these components are already bought, I think the the smartest/easiest fix would be to exchange the CPU for the 3600. That I can do.

 

[logainofhades]

Sweet, thanks for all the input everyone. Given these components are already bought, I think the the smartest/easiest fix would be to exchange the CPU for the 3600. That I can do.

A 3600, or a 5600x. If you intend to keep this setup long term, you may want to consider a 3700x, for better multicore support.

 

[volcomstar64]

A 3600, or a 5600x. If you intend to keep this setup long term, you may want to consider a 3700x, for better multicore support.

thats a good point! Thanks! Probably a good investment.

 

[volcomstar64]

After considering the input I received, I decided to swap out the following:

(1) Upgrading the power supply from a 650w to a 850w with the EVGA SuperNOVA 850 Ga, 80 Plus Gold 850W.
(2) Upgrading the PSU from the Ryzen 5 2600 to the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X

Does this seem a bit more balanced?

 

[DSzymborski]

After considering the input I received, I decided to swap out the following:

(1) Upgrading the power supply from a 650w to a 850w with the EVGA SuperNOVA 850 Ga, 80 Plus Gold 850W.

Why? You don't need an 850W and the Corsair is higher quality. There's a reason that none of the suggestions involved the PSU.

 

[Nemesia]

Why the PSU change? 650 watts was enough. 850 watts would be for RTX 3080/3090 + top of the line CPU. Corsair RMx was a better quality PSU.

The 3800X is a good CPU but it's 100MHz faster than the 3700X. If the 3800X was a good difference of price compared to the 3700X you should have bought the 3700X.

That money you spent on the PSU could have been put on a Ryzen 5800X.

 

[volcomstar64]

Why the PSU change? 650 watts was enough. 850 watts would be for RTX 3080/3090 + top of the line CPU. Corsair RMx was a better quality PSU.

The 3800X is a good CPU but it's 100MHz faster than the 3700X. If the 3800X was a good difference of price compared to the 3700X you should have bought the 3700X.

That money you spent on the PSU could have been put on a Ryzen 5800X.

Why the PSU change? 650 watts was enough. 850 watts would be for RTX 3080/3090 + top of the line CPU. Corsair RMx was a better quality PSU.

The 3800X is a good CPU but it's 100MHz faster than the 3700X. If the 3800X was a good difference of price compared to the 3700X you should have bought the 3700X.

That money you spent on the PSU could have been put on a Ryzen 5800X.

I changed the PSU out because the PSU that I chose didn't have the additional 4-pin ATX power connector that my motherboard has. While I could have easily gone without it, I like the option in case I decide to play games that have the need for the higher current demands.

 

[DSzymborski]

I changed the PSU out because the PSU that I chose didn't have the additional 4-pin ATX power connector that my motherboard has. While I could have easily gone without it, I like the option in case I decide to play games that have the need for the higher current demands.

That is not a thing. There's no game that makes your CPU use 350W, which is basically what you need to require the extra four-pin connector. The extra four-pin is for very high-end overclocking. But if you were doing very high-end overclocking, you've now chosen a lower-quality PSU, on which you shouldn't be doing very high-end overclocking. This was a perplexing choice that downgraded the quality of your build for no actual benefit.

 

[volcomstar64]

That is not a thing. There's no game that makes your CPU use 350W, which is basically what you need to require the extra four-pin connector. The extra four-pin is for very high-end overclocking. But if you were doing very high-end overclocking, you've now chosen a lower-quality PSU, on which you shouldn't be doing very high-end overclocking. This was a perplexing choice that downgraded the quality of your build for no actual benefit.

As the post said, I am a first time builder. I came here for gentle, constructive advice. Not to be insulted. I really am trying my best and doing my research. I went to pcpartpicker and plugged in my components and thats what the recommendation told me. I still have the Corsair and if explained to me properly so I can understand, I can still use it.

 

[DSzymborski]

As the post said, I am a first time builder. I came here for gentle, constructive advice. Not to be insulted. I really am trying my best and doing my research. I went to pcpartpicker and plugged in my components and thats what the recommendation told me.

Nobody's insulting you; just stating the facts that it was a confusing choice. And it is. As a first-time builder, you should be holding off on making purchase decisions until you know exactly why to choose one part over another.

 

[volcomstar64]

Nobody's insulting you; just stating the facts that it was a confusing choice. And it is. As a first-time builder, you should be holding off on making purchase decisions until you know exactly why to choose one part over another.

So keep the Corsair, got it. Thanks for your help.

 

[logainofhades]

Why the PSU change? 650 watts was enough. 850 watts would be for RTX 3080/3090 + top of the line CPU. Corsair RMx was a better quality PSU.

The 3800X is a good CPU but it's 100MHz faster than the 3700X. If the 3800X was a good difference of price compared to the 3700X you should have bought the 3700X.

That money you spent on the PSU could have been put on a Ryzen 5800X.

Agree 100%. Having had the 3700x, and built a rig with a 3800x, the difference was pretty much 0. I got the 3800x, for a friend, for cheap. Microcenter open box item, making it cheaper than the 3700x, so it made sense to buy it. The fan on the stock cooler had a bad bearing, which I just RMA'd, through AMD, later on. Keeping your PSU, and using that money towards a 5800x would be a better option. With that motherboard, I doubt you are going to be able to use anything faster.

 

[helper800]

Agree 100%. Having had the 3700x, and built a rig with a 3800x, the difference was pretty much 0. I got the 3800x, for a friend, for cheap. Microcenter open box item, making it cheaper than the 3700x, so it made sense to buy it. The fan on the stock cooler had a bad bearing, which I just RMA'd, through AMD, later on. Keeping your PSU, and using that money towards a 5800x would be a better option. With that motherboard, I doubt you are going to be able to use anything faster.

So this is what we are looking at so far;

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($419.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: MSI CORE FROZR L 71.27 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Z Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: LG 34GL750-B 34.0" 2560x1080 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow X Chroma RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Razer Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $419.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-11 12:51 EDT-0400

I would not personally go with that cpu cooler but since it is already purchased nothing you can do. It should do fine just not the best.