New Gaming PC Build help! Pls give me your advice :)

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Hello so im planning to build a gaming Pc and i want it to be able to run most games high-ultra 60fps on for atleast the next 4-5 years? WITHOUT upgrading it or even opening the case xD

so basically im looking at a

Gigabyte GA-X99-Gaming 5 motherboard
i7 5820k
8GB ram?
GTX 960
1TB WD black
Corsair CX600 PSU

i'm planning to build it 2 weeks from now and these specs exactly fit my current budget...but i was wondering maybe you guys can give me even a better build that is able to perform better and last that long?

Thanks! 😀
 
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I'd suggest you keep the CPU cooler, here is the build with a gtx 980 and w/o the SSD and OS:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($532.98 @ Newegg)...
Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1200.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-18 11:14 EDT-0400
 


somewhere around 1200$ if im looking at price's in amazon. but parts around here are a bit expensive so what i've listed above actually cost me around 1750$ i can't really order parts online 🙁
 


uhm i was wondering if is it possible to fit a gtx 980 into that build? if don't need an SSD and already got the operating system and maybe i won't need a cooler?
 
I'd suggest you keep the CPU cooler, here is the build with a gtx 980 and w/o the SSD and OS:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($532.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1206.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-18 11:25 EDT-0400
 
Solution
I like Derza10 build. But could I suggest expanding memory to 16gb? he/she wants to play high-ultra for the next five years... 8gb is on the mid-end even now. My computer uses 10gb when playing Assasin's creed unity on ULTRA. Also you can save some money by getting AMD 290 instead of GTX 970. The GTX is generally better than the 290, but not by much; they're quite similar. Also, when upgrading to crossfire even more money will be saved. AMD 290 can play everything on ULTRA. and it will keep playing stuff in ULTRA when crossfired in a few years.
 
You need a much better GPU and PSU.

Gaming systems, like this, are GPU limited Many powerful gaming systems are using 5 year old CPUs, none of them are using 5 year old GPUs (unless they have many of them)

Where are you?

If you don't even want to open the case for as long as possible, this is the sort of thing you need, even though it is a bit above budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M OC Formula Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.95 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1518.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-18 11:36 EDT-0400
2 x 970 SLI is better than 1 x 980. 2 x 980 is far too expensive.
 
Your CPU is overkill and your graphics card and PSU are underwhelming. Here try this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ctzQnQ

The SLI will be really powerful after the DX 12 release.

On the other hand, if you can spare some extra cash, this one would probably be better in the long term:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sR7QnQ

Keep in mind that in both builds I've added 8 GB extra RAM (to a total of 16 GB) because I don't know what the requirements will be in 5 years. Also, the first build is meant to be overclocked. If you can combine the best traits of both builds (strong CPU from the first build and more long lasting GPU from the second) then you are even better off.
 
I'm currently spotting a

I7 4790K
Asus Maximus 7 Hero
HyperX Fury 16GB 1866Mhz
Gigabyte GTX 980 G1-Gaming
Samsung EVO 850 120GB (OS)
Samsung EVO 850 500GB (Games and what not)
CM V850
NZXT H440
Corsair H100I

Im just going all out with my build 😀 This should hold me up for maybe 3 years without the need to upgrade ? I think. Plus you should get rid of the x99 setup. Those extra cores arent going to give you more performance in gaming unless you are doing work that stress the cpu. Even so, a 4790K should get you by without much lost in performance.

If you dont want the SSD then most probably you can get away with a WD 2TB or Seagate depending on you. You might want to change the board for your build to go with stuff that you actually need.
 


I would want a 750 W PSU, 850W would be better.
 


I honestly think that 150W extra should cover any energy inefficiency of the SLI/extra power cost for the CPU overclock. Even when under stress a single card should never go 50W over limit, which means at most 100W more will be consumed in the SLI and I think I am being quite generous here. I can't imagine the overclock going over 50W either.
 
This is why I never go with the most expensive GPU in the market... They make better ones all the time, it is a waste of money. I always get the best for the money high-end and it lasts a long time for much cheaper price. I got my 280x OC almost 1.5 years ago. I can still play most games on ULTRA, and recently added another 280x which would let me stick on ULTRA for most games for another 1.5 - 2 years (hopefully) and at least HIGH for 3 years, and depending on prices drop I can add a 3rd one, or by that time evaluate if I should upgrade to "the best budget current ULTRA GPU".

I would have spend so much more money about 1.5 years ago if had gotten the 290x, and I have better performance with 2 OC 280x for less price, plus I didn't drop all the money at once.

My suggestion is, be smart and save a lot of money on GPU's (they can be really expensive), because when time comes and new mobo, processor, ram is necessary. That my friend, will be a big expense.
 



From an extensive analysis of 2 x 970 SLI.

Here is Guru3D's power supply recommendation:
•GeForce GTX 970 or 980 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 400~500 Watt power supply unit.
•GeForce GTX 970 or 980 in 2-way SLI - On your average system the cards require you to have an 700~800 Watt power supply unit as minimum.

If you are going to overclock your GPU or processor, then we do recommend you purchase something with some more stamina. There are many good PSUs out there, please do have a look at our many PSU reviews as we have loads of recommended PSUs for you to check out in there. What would happen if your PSU can't cope with the load:
•Bad 3D performance
•Crashing games
•Spontaneous reset or imminent shutdown of the PC
•Freezing during gameplay
•PSU overload can cause it to break down


It's the likelihood of simultaneous demand spikes that requires the extra PSU so that the capacitors do not get hammered by overuse.

Their system ran at about 450W with both GPUs and an overclock, although the GPUs were not overclocked. Demand spikes could easily exceed 650W in intense gaming.
 
Yes. You should have at least 800 or 850W gold or platinum certified PSU if going with SLI or cross-fire. Rule of thumb. I definitely go above 650Watt sometimes with 2 OC 280x in crossfire. I have a wattage meter to monitor my whole system power consumption on real time.
 
With AMD, yes, but the TDP of a 970 is only around 150W. I don't like the maximum normal use to exceed 70% of the PSU maximum on the 12 volt rail.

450/0.7 is 650W. Many 650W PSUs have less than that on the 12V rails, so 750W for comfort. More if the GPUs get overclocked.

 




OK then, could you please tell me though, why do the manufacturers give vastly understated approximate power consumption values? You'd assume that a manufacturer would overstate the power requirements in order to avoid lawsuits and such...
 
They do overstate. A GTX 970 is recommended to require 500W IIRC, add that to the 100W for the computer, that would be 600W. We know it will run on 450W. GTX970 recommended is 1000W, we know they will run on only 750. They recommend 500W for a 150-ish TDP GPU, that seems like overstating to me.
 


They have to assume the rest of your system is full of very energy inefficient parts that is why they over state the PSU wattages. I'm not sure why you keep saying stuff like "gtx 970 req 500w add that to the 100w for the computer" You clearly do not understand what the recommended PSU means... The GTX 970 uses less than 200w max on its own, that extra 300w overhead is to cover the rest of the computer (As i said they have to assume the rest of your computer is very power hungry because no computer is the same)...

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

see how it says "Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 500 W" - Notice the word SYSTEM in there?
 


Yes those are the stock power consumption. The aftermarket ones can use more though, and when overclocked some such as the GTX 970 gigabyte G1 can use up to 280w. Asus strix can only use 200w max and the GTX MSI gaming maxes at about 220w. Stock ones use around the 145w stated on PCpartpicker though.
 


You are right. That is the stated TDP. At the same time, the manufacturers recommend a minimum system power requirement of 500W. Not all W are the same however. I just bought two 550W PSUs for projects at school. One provided 440W on the 12V rail, with the rest in other places, the other provides 540W on the 12v rail and more elsewhere, but a limit of 550 overall.

EDIT: Some info to support Derza10

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_g1_gaming_gtx_970_gtx_980,9.html