[SOLVED] New Gaming PC for the Wifey

[Nanekud]

Hello all!

I'm designing a new gaming PC for the wife. Her system is still running, but I'm sure it's well overdue for replacement. Any tips or knowledge that may keep me from buying these components and attempting construction is welcome.

Budget for build is $1600.00, although there is a small margin of play.

Here's the current build part by part:
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $294.48 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard | $241.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $197.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $119.00 @ Walmart
Storage | Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | $91.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card | $359.99 @ Walmart
Case | BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.90 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $144.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1540.33
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-12 14:32 EDT-0400 |


I'm trying to steer clear of water cooling as I have always been wary of leaks and shorts.

I'm also attempting to stay within her color scheme of white/purple/pink, but this is of course not absolutely necessary.

Going to be running wired, not wifi.

The monitor and other peripherals are already purchased.

Thank you in advance for any advice.

 

[Flashgo1]

are you going to run wifi or wired.
also i would get windows 10 home. not 10 home OEM. OEM means if that pc goes poof, so does that license

 

[Nanekud]

are you going to run wifi or wired.
also i would get windows 10 home. not 10 home OEM. OEM means if that pc goes poof, so does that license

Going to run wired.

About Win10; I will look around for decent deals on a non OEM version. I don't see any on PCPartpicker atm.

 

[Flashgo1]

will have to go to amazon or microsoft direct for that one.

im checking to see if ryzen can match your 9700k in color schemes with mobo.

 

[Flashgo1]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.97 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $1444.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 20:58 EDT-0400

black board but i found some interesting white stuff
if you really want to play https://cablemod.com/

 

[punkncat]

Without even discussing the possible new list, what are the specs of the current system and where is it falling short in performance?

Far from me to sit here and say that a 9th gen i7 is a bad choice...BUT, it's another 'nother (once again) refresh of an aging platform and costs hella Intel bunch.

 

[Nanekud]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.97 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $1444.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 20:58 EDT-0400

black board but i found some interesting white stuff
if you really want to play https://cablemod.com/

Do you think that processor would be better for gaming? Also, lower Watt psu gonna be ok? I know AMD stuff pulls a lot of power.

 

[Nanekud]

Without even discussing the possible new list, what are the specs of the current system and where is it falling short in performance?

Far from me to sit here and say that a 9th gen i7 is a bad choice...BUT, it's another 'nother (once again) refresh of an aging platform and costs hella Intel bunch.

I haven't built anything in a while and I'm not saying it's falling short anywhere. I simply wanted some input on whether or not the system is completely cohesive plus any other tips people may have. I suppose I should edit and ad a budget number for narrowing things down a bit on min-maxing it.

 

[Flashgo1]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.97 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $1329.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 21:20 EDT-0400

unsure about power. looking for the 850W version, i found a white one. for $10 more.
on the 2000 series intel still had them beat by a little. the 3000 series from all the reviews say its a coin toss who is better but they are all within 3-5 frames when they are close. when they are not. ryzen every time. also the ryzen is hyper threaded while the intel is not.

 

[Flashgo1]

the part picker estimated wattage only hit 500W, but that is only an educated guess from a machine. i have yet to gauge by part picker what psu is actually needed. 750 should be good, unless you get a major gpu upgrade that pulls an insane amount of wattage. but 850 in the new list should be good even for that.

 

[Nanekud]

the part picker estimated wattage only hit 500W, but that is only an educated guess from a machine. i have yet to gauge by part picker what psu is actually needed. 750 should be good, unless you get a major gpu upgrade that pulls an insane amount of wattage. but 850 in the new list should be good even for that.

Cool.

I did see some reviews of 3700X vs 9700K. It looks like you're right; Ryzen does have an extremely minimal difference in loss compared to the Intel chip. It also has the advantage of threading and being able to handle more running on the computer. The only thing I have always shied away from AMD for is the power they take and the heat given off. The newer 3700X sounds like it doesn't use a lot of power, but still does give off more heat than 9700K. If you weren't worried about the price, which would you pick weighing that in?

 

[Flashgo1]

they no longer have that heat issue. the power difference would take 5 years of 24/7 use before the cost would match the other.
the ryzen would be my pick between the 2.

1. ryzen runs cooler.
2. hyperthreading.
3. the AM4 socket will be used for much longer then intels socket. not sure they can do 2 gens before new mobo.
4. the stock cooler sent with all ryzens can actually cool the cpu, except when you push the x series.
5. ryzen runs 65W while intel runs 95W for same speeds. 3000 series and beyond. and you can overclock any ryzen besides the integrated and the low end ryzen 3s

the AM4 socket had a refresh for the 3000 series but it only effects some of the earliest cheap boards when using high end 7 and 9s. the x series boards are safe.

if the board does not recognize your cpu out of the box you can order a bios update cpu from ryzen. you get money back when its sent back. they are just low end chips that are anough to boot the board into bios, and thats about it.

 

[Nanekud]

they no longer have that heat issue. the power difference would take 5 years of 24/7 use before the cost would match the other.
the ryzen would be my pick between the 2.

1. ryzen runs cooler.
2. hyperthreading.
3. the AM4 socket will be used for much longer then intels socket. not sure they can do 2 gens before new mobo.
4. the stock cooler sent with all ryzens can actually cool the cpu, except when you push the x series.
5. ryzen runs 65W while intel runs 95W for same speeds. 3000 series and beyond. and you can overclock any ryzen besides the integrated and the low end ryzen 3s

These are some very good points, my friend. I think you're right, it sounds like the difference in all points lead to going with Ryzen. She does like to run millions of programs at the same time, so this may be the better option even if it gave off a little more heat or took a bit more power. Thank you.

 

[Flashgo1]

the power issue is with the x470 and x570 boards ran with the 3000 series. im checking to see if the x370 board needs to be something else or if it is fine. the x470 tends to be the better choice cause power effeinces.

the AMD book kit link. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

 

[Flashgo1]

yep i goofed. wrong mobo

 

[Flashgo1]

fixed it

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $1189.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 22:19 EDT-0400

https://cablemod.com/ make your own cables.

 

[Nanekud]

fixed it

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $1189.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 22:19 EDT-0400

https://cablemod.com/ make your own cables.

Ok, so I'm incorporating this with the original build and noticed the memory difference. Did you select that one because of performance or color or both? I like the white on it to go with the build scheme. Only $2 difference so, price factor isn't in effect on that.

 

[Nanekud]

fixed it

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $1189.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 22:19 EDT-0400

https://cablemod.com/ make your own cables.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $292.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard | $241.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $197.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $119.58 @ B&H
Storage | Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive | $91.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card | $359.99 @ Walmart
Case | BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.90 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $144.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1539.41
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 22:37 EDT-0400 |

How does this look? Prices vary, found a bundle deal for this CPU and MoBo for $499.98.

 

[Flashgo1]

you may want to go with the x470 for the more efficient power unless you want the very latest. i did not relise the board i picked was that much. i was looking for a board around 150. not nearly 500. my goof on that one too.

the ram to me matched the white theme better. plus you wanted 32GB. should be good for many years to come.

the storage ssd, unless you need that 1TB of space, 500GB is much cheaper per GB and if you need more speed there i can recomend another but thats up to you.

PSU may want to get the white one i found for 10 more. other wise you would have a black psu stuck to the back of a very white case.

 

[Flashgo1]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($153.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1538.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 23:07 EDT-0400

my 2 favorite sites only had 2 white PSUs between them. maybe try a white permant marker instead.

 

[Flashgo1]

used the saving from cheaper mobo on the cpu cooler that you will need instead. PSU aparently only come in black, unless you want to pay a premium of 100 for a white one.

the x470 boards just did not look right to me when i looked at them.

 

[Nanekud]

used the saving from cheaper mobo on the cpu cooler that you will need instead. PSU aparently only come in black, unless you want to pay a premium of 100 for a white one.

the x470 boards just did not look right to me when i looked at them.

Do you think I need the CPU cooler? Or, go with the stock one that comes with the Ryzen?

 

[Nanekud]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($153.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($197.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($389.97 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Enso ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1538.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 23:07 EDT-0400

my 2 favorite sites only had 2 white PSUs between them. maybe try a white permant marker instead.

What's the difference between the MoBo I have on there now and the one you suggested other than price?

 

[Flashgo1]

what was saved with the mobo i put onto the cooler.
not sure you need it cooling wise if you keep it stock. but if you want to push it at all you will need the better cooler. plus the stock cooler is black and wont match the build.