Question New Gaming/Productivity PC. CPU purchased- Please help with my list!!

Elizabeth_B

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Hello all!
This is my first build in about 10 years and I am ready to purchase the remaining components. I have the Ryzen 7 3700X in hand and am firm in my choice for the Phanteks P600S. I also only want to air cool. I will probably not be overclocking but I am open to suggestions for memory. Here are some considerations:

-I like the new Noctua cooler in black but want to make sure it will fit and not block the memory. With both fans in place the memory is supposed to be no greater than 32mm. Will not want to remove any fans on it so may need to "raise" the fans ( read this on Noctua site if the CPU clearance permits and think it will in this case. Opinions?? This Phanteks case comes with three 140mm Phanteks fans. Should I replace these with Noctua fans or perhaps just add one additional fan to the back?? I am not really familiar with the whole negative pressure or positive pressure cooling/airflow concepts so would welcome suggestions which will maximize airflow and cooling.

-New single 1440 monitor 27"-32" or possibly 2 1440 24" or larger . No TN panels and desire greater than 60Hz, if possible.

-Will probably need low profile memory at 3200 or 3600 and will go for an 8X4 (32) or 2X16 (32) configuration- whichever is most efficient. No off brands. Will only want memory n the QVL list for the Gigabyte Aurus Ultra 570.

-Would prefer a Seasonic or similar PSU with Gold or above efficiency. 650 Watt. I also read something about needing the 8 + 4 connectors for this CPU??

I am open to all suggestions and am hoping to future proof this machine for at least 5 years or so.

Do not care about RGB. A little is nice but not necessary.
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $324.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | $99.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard | $290.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $109.99 @ Adorama
Storage | Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $146.08 @ Amazon
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card | $499.99 @ Newegg
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S ATX Mid Tower Case | $149.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.99 @ B&H
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1721.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-18 10:26 EST-0500 |
 

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NH-D15 ram clearance is 32mm. Corsair LPX will fit. That being said, there doesn't seem to be B die LPX in stock in 2x16 configuration.

Get 2x16, as 4x8 will have trouble at higher frequencies, especially with daisy chain topology and Ryzen 3rd gen memory controller.

Acer VG271U is a nice 1440p144 1ms IPS Freesync monitor for $350

Do you really need gold or above efficiency? Unless you actually want to be the most power efficient, you probably don't. Remember 80+ ratings are only for efficiency, not quality. You do not need 8+4 connector, you can just use 1 8 pin. The extra 4 pin on the motherboard is unnecessary, since one 8 pin can provide 380W anyways, and that's more than any AM4 CPU will draw. I suggest a Corsair CXM, Corsair RMx, or EVGA G3 650W unit. The prior is the cheapest and will definitely work. The latter two is if you want better warranty, probably longer lifespan (by maybe 3 years), and lower ripple/better transient response.

You don't really need to add more fans to the case, since it already has intake and exhaust, which is good enough, and better than a lot of other cases provide.

Replace that motherboard with an Aorus Pro or Aorus Elite. The Ultra has the exact same PCB as the Pro except it changes the heatsink, and costs $30 more. The Aorus elite has a very similar VRM to the Pro but has a few less fan headers, and no debug features. If you don't want to overclock, you may want to get an MSI B450 Tomahawk since you won't be needing the 12 phase VRMs on these X570 boards.
 

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For ram selection:
Hynix J die (Worse for overclocking): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc
Samsung B die (Best for overclocking): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gqkgXL/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzn
Memory tuning on ryzen is better than CPU overclocking, so I would recommend getting B die and tightening timings.
Also I was wrong about the NH D15 ram clearance. You can move the front fan upwards on the heatsink to increase clearance but that will obviously increase cooler height. The original required clearance is 165mm, and the P600S allows 190mm, so moving it up 25mm will give you 56mm ram clearance.

The NH D15 is quite excessive if you aren't overclocking, but if you want to keep it I guess you can. Highly recommend at least enabling PBO if you do get the NH D15
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WzCDx

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($294.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1959.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-18 12:02 EST-0500
Here's the "Improved" list. I included an Aorus Elite in case you did want to overclock at all, and the memory is B die. Drives are replaced with cheaper but same speed/faster drives.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions! That memory is expensive and RGB. Is there any that is non rgb that is also Samsung B die and on the QVL for those Gigabyte x570 boards? I am also looking at the Phanteks PSU which is made by Seasonic and I have chosen an LG monitor. Which cooler do you recommend that is almost as silent and effective as the Noctua? Maybe a single fan Noctua solution?
 

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Thanks for the suggestions! That memory is expensive and RGB. Is there any that is non rgb that is also Samsung B die and on the QVL for those Gigabyte x570 boards? I am also looking at the Phanteks PSU which is made by Seasonic and I have chosen an LG monitor. Which cooler do you recommend that is almost as silent and effective as the Noctua? Maybe a single fan Noctua solution?
Basically any 3200/3600 B die will be on the QVL for X570 gigabyte boards. Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4 is similar to an NH D15, but is quieter. Which Phanteks psu are you looking at?
For B die ram, there's a site called B die finder: https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/
Don't get any B die with looser timings than 3600 Mhz C16 or 3200 Mhz C14 as if they have looser timings due to worse binning. Keep in mind 3200 C14 beats out 3600 C16 by about 2-3% stock.
 

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