[SOLVED] New Gaming Rig Help - Full Setup

Mjdjr

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I am going to give my current rig to my daughter, I have been so far out of the loop regarding components I would be extremely grateful or some guidance regarding a complete setup with a machine, monitor, and the whole ball of wax. I can put down $3000 for everything.
 
Solution
Something like this should be good...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $116.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $209.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $134.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AMP MAXX Video Card | $1099.99 @ Amazon
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case | $63.98 @...
Something like this should be good...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $116.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $209.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $134.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AMP MAXX Video Card | $1099.99 @ Amazon
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case | $63.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair TXM Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Acer Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $549.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3020.68
| Mail-in rebates | -$60.00
| Total | $2960.68
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-07 02:09 EDT-0400 |
 
Solution
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.32 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1098.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks PH-ES614PC_BK ATX Full Tower Case ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 32GK850G-B 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3095.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 02:14 EDT-0400


This is decent upgrade in quality over Hellfire13's build.
High quality PSU.
Larger kit of RAM. Why limit your RAM when you can go high.
Better spacious case to work in.
I would stick with flat panel monitor over curved one. Unless you plan on multi monitor setup for simulation.
 
Something like this should be good...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $116.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $209.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $134.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AMP MAXX Video Card | $1099.99 @ Amazon
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case | $63.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair TXM Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Acer Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $549.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3020.68
| Mail-in rebates | -$60.00
| Total | $2960.68
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-07 02:09 EDT-0400 |
I been in lot many threads with you and have seen lot of your builds. For majority part of the list you posted above I am fine as it is personal preference of components we choose for the build. But I think you either miss-clicked or edited a prebuilt list in which you left changing the PSU or opted Corsair TXM by mistake for $3K build. That PSU is very decent and of high quality but when spending this high I think one should get high-tier PSU.
 
I been in lot many threads with you and have seen lot of your builds. For majority part of the list you posted above I am fine as it is personal preference of components we choose for the build. But I think you either miss-clicked or edited a prebuilt list in which you left changing the PSU or opted Corsair TXM by mistake for $3K build. That PSU is very decent and of high quality but when spending this high I think one should get high-tier PSU.
TXM is pretty high quality and sufficient for the build. The point is to include a quality GSync monitor for better gaming experience when spending so high for an even smoother gaming experience.
Also, you have chosen a RAM kit with CAS19 which is in essence pretty much as good as a 3200mhz kit with CAS16 or 3000mhz with CAS15. When choosing a RAM kit above 3200mhz, try to contain your selection within CAS16. Increasing frequency without decreasing CAS is just wasted money.
Also the 970 Evo is slower and more expensive than the HP 950...
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8870/hp-ex950-ssd-review-want-fastest/index3.html

Here is the list with the changes made...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $122.78 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $209.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $189.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $134.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AMP MAXX Video Card | $1099.99 @ Amazon
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case | $73.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $119.89 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Acer Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $549.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3151.38
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $3101.38
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 03:09 EDT-0400 |
 
TXM is pretty high quality and sufficient for the build. The point is to include a quality GSync monitor for better gaming experience when spending so high for an even smoother gaming experience.
Also, you have chosen a RAM kit with CAS19 which is in essence pretty much as good as a 3200mhz kit with CAS16 or 3000mhz with CAS15. When choosing a RAM kit above 3200mhz, try to contain your selection within CAS16. Increasing frequency without decreasing CAS is just wasted money.
Also the 970 Evo is slower and more expensive than the HP 950...
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8870/hp-ex950-ssd-review-want-fastest/index3.html

Here is the list with the changes made...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $499.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $122.78 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $209.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $189.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $134.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AMP MAXX Video Card | $1099.99 @ Amazon
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case | $73.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $119.89 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Acer Predator Z1 31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $549.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3151.38
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $3101.38
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-09 03:09 EDT-0400 |
I did Include G-Sync Monitor of same size but non curved version. Both are VA panels and can go up to 165Hz. Both support 8-bit color.
That memory can be tweaked for timings. Second is that there is no 3200 kit available at lesser price from Ripjaws or Vegeance lineup for lesser budget. Overall the RAM won't take a big hit only matter of 2-3fps.
970 Evo is slower than HP EX950. Hmmmm....... I don't think there is noticeable performance difference between both. In any case I am more comfortable with SAMSUNG or Crucial or Intel and even WD as a brand when compared to HP. I had my fare share of nightmares thanks to HP(laptops). That is the reason I did not argue based on SSD selection. I am fine with personal preferences.
Thank you for updating the PSU. I definitely agree with you on TXM being of very high quality but that is for mid-range systems around $1K but when going $2K or higher I recommend getting RMX series or up.
 
I did Include G-Sync Monitor of same size but non curved version. Both are VA panels and can go up to 165Hz. Both support 8-bit color.
That memory can be tweaked for timings. Second is that there is no 3200 kit available at lesser price from Ripjaws or Vegeance lineup for lesser budget. Overall the RAM won't take a big hit only matter of 2-3fps.
970 Evo is slower than HP EX950. Hmmmm....... I don't think there is noticeable performance difference between both. In any case I am more comfortable with SAMSUNG or Crucial or Intel and even WD as a brand when compared to HP. I had my fare share of nightmares thanks to HP(laptops). That is the reason I did not argue based on SSD selection. I am fine with personal preferences.
Thank you for updating the PSU. I definitely agree with you on TXM being of very high quality but that is for mid-range systems around $1K but when going $2K or higher I recommend getting RMX series or up.
These are healthy discussions and not arguments as you think. :giggle:
Coming to the point, RAM OC is not ameture stuff and not everyone is comfortable with it, or can achieve stability when adjusting. If CAS can be adjusted, same can be done with frequency also. Why not then purchase a 3000mhz kit simply and adjust both CAS and frequency, isnt it?
HP 950 is a new product and the reviews and ratings are pretty solid for the same. I am not a huge fan of HP either as l have had the same share of experience as you, but this one looks pretty good.
 
These are healthy discussions and not arguments as you think. :giggle:
Coming to the point, RAM OC is not ameture stuff and not everyone is comfortable with it, or can achieve stability when adjusting. If CAS can be adjusted, same can be done with frequency also. Why not then purchase a 3000mhz kit simply and adjust both CAS and frequency, isnt it?
HP 950 is a new product and the reviews and ratings are pretty solid for the same. I am not a huge fan of HP either as l have had the same share of experience as you, but this one looks pretty good.
Yes this is a healthy discussion and even if it has to be considered as argument. It is a very civilized argument. Nothing wrong in that.

For all the kits I have OC and Stabilized it is much easier to bring down timings(not like crazy tuck down) on high frequency memory than stabilizing the kit by getting the speed up on low frequency and tightly timed one. Most of the boards do provide XMP profile with lower clocks and tighter timings.
Overall for mere 3-4fps gain at 1080p (dint ever considered noticing how that effected on 1440p or 4K). I wouldn't be spending much high or compromise on overall capacity of memory.
 
Yes this is a healthy discussion and even if it has to be considered as argument. It is a very civilized argument. Nothing wrong in that.

For all the kits I have OC and Stabilized it is much easier to bring down timings(not like crazy tuck down) on high frequency memory than stabilizing the kit by getting the speed up on low frequency and tightly timed one. Most of the boards do provide XMP profile with lower clocks and tighter timings.
Overall for mere 3-4fps gain at 1080p (dint ever considered noticing how that effected on 1440p or 4K). I wouldn't be spending much high or compromise on overall capacity of memory.
This video is a bit old but profoundly delves into the effect of RAM speed in gaming...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk


This is what is recommended for Ryzen 3rd gen...
https://premiumbuilds.com/ram/best-ram-for-ryzen-3000/
 
This video is a bit old but profoundly delves into the effect of RAM speed in gaming...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk


This is what is recommended for Ryzen 3rd gen...
https://premiumbuilds.com/ram/best-ram-for-ryzen-3000/
That is exactly what I was saying above that spending more to get higher memory speed is meaningless beyond a point. That is the reason I went with that specific kit as it was the cheapest kit of 32GB available above 3000Mhz speed from G.Skill or Corsair. I could have gone with cheaper Team kit but thought it would be better to included a branded kit. Not a big deal. If there is alternate 32GB kit which has speed above 3000Mhz let it be 3200 or 3600 and is cheaper getting it would be better.