New Gaming Rig Suggestion Please

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Except my GPU which is a GTX980 every thing else was 7 years or older. my I5 2500k has officially died other day. what took me so long from upgrading because i been told the upgrade would still be too negligible from my 7 years old rig......

can you give me some suggestion for my new Pc build?.I dont want a budget build as I am gonna be using it for the next 5 years or so.

how much more performance gain will i get from AMD Ryzen 7 2700X or Intel Core i7-8700K ?

or will you suggest me to wait for something better? thanks


 

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Yes i will keep the GPU and upgrade to Volta in the future. and I will keep the PSU as well.

I think Budget wont be a concern. any suggestion? = ) hope its something that get me more signifant gain from my last gig
 
generically you could do something like this. These builds can be way more expensive without a price cap which is why I ask.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($349.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Western Digital - Black 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($161.23 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $972.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-08 15:59 EDT-0400
 

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thanks dude, so in your opinion, high end motherboard like Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 is unnecessary? because s ranked as one of the best motherboard. again, as im gonna be using it for the next few years. i dont mind buying something more high end. but of course it has to be practical and worth the money as well.what do you think? as for storeage i am fine. i have kept buying and changing hdds over the years
 
Today, the ryzen 2700X and I7-8700K are reasonably close in price.
Ryzen will have 16 threads and perhaps a 4.2 clock when overclocked.
I7-8700K will have 12 threads and a clock near 5.0.

For pure gaming the higher 8700K will be better since games do not use a lot of threads.

OTOH, if you want to run multithreaded batch apps, the extra 4 threads of the 2700X will be better.

Your I5-2500K was a very good gaming chip in it's time.
You will not see great differences in fast action games where the graphics card is most important.
For cpu limited games like sims, mmo, and strategy games you will see a nice difference.
Multiplayer games also.
You will be pleases with either chip.

I might also look at the upcoming I7-8086K which is essentially a well binned 8700K. Don't know the price premium.
I suggest 8700K, any Z370 motherboard and a 2 x 8gb kit of DDR4 ram 3000 speed.
 
AMD (more expensive) alternative, although I could make it cheaper. But a good motherboard and fast memory with low timings is the best way to get more out of the 2700X. You can still go for a cheaper motherboard, but since you said budget is not a concern, I chose the 2nd best, the best being the same motherboard with Wi-Fi integrated.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($319.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Crosshair VII Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard ($262.75 @ Walmart)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($236.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($246.01 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1232.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-08 16:23 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($239.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS GAMING WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($196.01 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Seagate - Constellation ES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1035.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-08 16:32 EDT-0400
if more for work then ryzen 2700x
 
A cheaper AMD alternative than the one above.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($319.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($211.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.01 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1041.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-08 16:33 EDT-0400

Note that the stock cooler of the 2700x is quite good, so you don't need to get another one, even for OC-ing. But generally, the 2700X performs better stock than OC'ed.
And with StoreMI technology which is included with all X470 motherboards, you don't need a fast HDD either if you have an SSD.

And an even cheaper one;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($319.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.01 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $904.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-08 16:39 EDT-0400
 
For motherboards there really isn't much of a difference unless you are truly serious about overclocking. In which case you'd want to find out which board has the best VRMs to help facilitate said overclocking.

Frankly most of the ones labeled "gamer" seem to be charging a steep premium for the RGB and marketing. Not really worth it in my book.
 

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damn i just read that the release date of z390 is around the corner. z370 would be reduced in price by then. buying now seems unwise. but i have no computer to use. does anybody know how far is it from the release date? i would rather get z390 with two great new features
 
If you have a need now, buy now.
If you wait for the next best thing, you will wait forever.
It seems to me that the added capabilities of the z390 chipset are nice, they can be had with add in expansion cards.
I suspect that the Z390 is preparation for 8 core and higher processors.
If your needs are for 8600K or 8700K, I see no need to wait.
Or, for that matter, to spend big bucks on a higher priced z370 based motherboard.
 

That is generally true, but it is not true for the likes of the 2700x. XFR2 determines the max clock speed of your CPU based on the motherboard's VRM and temperature (among other things). A better motherboard will give you better stock performance, because XFR has more leniency in boosting CPU clocks. It's the difference between having one core at 4.0 GHz for an extended period, or all of them at 4.2 GHz for an extended period.