Ok so it seems playing at 4K 2160p with this card, even with all the incredible air-flow and case upgrades and cleanliness, the temps will hug the 80s. In a warm day, when GPU usage nearing the max (85-100% usage), and in a graphically demanding game like TW3.
There's simply no escaping it.
I tried both the default automatic fan curve (out of the box semi passive) and applying my own MSI Afterburner manual fan curve:
The manual fan curve that I've used was basically the default AB manual fan curve - only starting at 20c with 20% speed and going up 1:1. So for instance 78c will be 78% fan speed, etc.
IT DOESN'T WORK For example, if my GPU hit 80c when playing The Witcher 3 at 21604K with 99% GPU load, in a packed area- whether I have the default (semi-passive) fans which are about 60% speed at 80c iirc, or 80% speed at 80c with a custom fan curve - it will still hang on 80c. So applying a custom fan curve doesn't help much at all.
So I actually don't see any real reason of using it unless I want to make my case more noisy and draw more power.
Unless you guys / I should - use more aggressive fan curve. If so - please let me know what kind of fan curves.
Sinisterecho6985 :
OMG Dude, do you know anything, of course your card will go up to and beyond 2000mhz!! Yes in OC mode it states 1746 BUT if you know anything at all and actually attempted any of your own fact searching and research you would see that with NVIDIA Boost then it does allow the card to reach those numbers - Go and check some YT videos on the card bro!! Lots of techies have reported those clock speeds out of the box - I have the exact same card and I never hit above 71c with the Aourus software and with MSI and a custom fan curve never above 65c - If you're temps are bothering you then use some common sense and create custom fan curve!
Woah, calm down.
I figured it out shortly after making this question (which is only part of the thread anyway) after making further research, but I wasn't 100% sure about it. Just because this not-so-known information slipped my mind, you don't have to be utterly nuts and jerk about it.
I found your 65c and 71c statement hard to believe. If you never cross 71c with default "semi-passive" fan, than you are:
1) probably playing at 1080p and/or 1440p.
2) playing non-demanding or mid-demanding games. 1440p and 2160p at highly demanding gaming will spike the temps by like 5-15c more than others.
3) you are playing with a wide open case, without doors or something.
4) you live in a really cold country or have some crazy super-expensive cooling system.
I already tried applying custom fan curve that is 1 to 1 temps to fan speed: so for instance 20c will be 20% speed, 60c 60%, 70c 70% etc. That didn't help. It only "slowed down" the heating for a few minutes, as I've mentioned above. So even with the default MSI AB custom fan curve: 79c will fixate itself to 79c even with 79fan speeds.
Unless you are using a far more aggressive fan curve which works for you. If you do, please let me know.
I honestly don't see how it is possible for you to have the card working at 65-71c, unless those games are really light weight, 1080p, cold chilly room or wide open case.
You can see photos of my current case and airflow and I dare say it doesn't get any cleaner and clutter free than that and the airflow improved dramatically.
So yes - I have reasons for concern, I need to know if my GPU and/or GPU cooler is defective. Because right now it is not cooling as well as it should.
Especially as before than I had 2 GTX 980s G1 Gaming cards- which means more power, more heat, less airflow and inferior cooling - and yet the temps on BOTH were on the low 70s at worst case.
I would have to point out that I live in a really warm humid country, the room doesn't have a lot of airflow. We have occasional heat waves that comes with dryness and summer is super steaming hot and humid. April and May brought summer early, and it only going to get worse.
VXBlade :
bystander :
80c isn't a bad thing with these cards. They purposefully allow it to reach that on all the stock cards. They are safe up to the high 80's, (it's not until the high 90's that there is a problem). I'm not sure why this bothers you so much, but if it does, set a fan profile with MSI Afterburner.
Depends how long you intend to keep it. 80 - 90c will degrade the silicon faster than lower temps. At $800 I intend to run this for a half a decade. Some people upgrade like their cards like cell phones every year, then who cares.
Also, I've noticed throttling in my logs if the CPU temp peaks above 80c, if I keep it below 78c I never see a frequency drop. 79c and above it throttles with out custom OC settings.
You were totally right about Aorus Graphics Engine being buggy as hell. I removed it from startup using both it's settings and CCleaner.
I've noticed a really annoying bothersome issue between Aorus software and MSI Afterburner - they seem to constanly clash between each other - and force their own parameters - namely fan and clock speeds - over each other!
So using MSI AB to apply fan-curve with Aorus GE to apply "OC Mode" is a big NO GO.
You notice that when you switch between them - and you would see the fan speed going haywire - from 60% custom to 0 auto and back. The clocks will also switch from Aorus to AB oc settings.
So I've made up my mind at this point to use only MSI AB - and mimic Aorus OC mode - by applying:
125% power limit, +25MHz core, +100MHz. But then I noticed that 100 MHz memory isn't stable so I am using +50MHz. I still had some artifact and flickering issues when playing games or even at the desktop last Saturday (last time I used my PC) - not sure if it's the OC settings or not. I might just use the card at reset default settings, because they are already OC to an extreme.
I have another annoying issue with this GPU where it has trouble with dual monitors. I have 1 pc monitor (Asus ROG Swift PG 278Q) over DisplayPort port 1, and Samsung TV (KS8500) over HDMI 1. And sometimes the PC monitor won't be detected at all until I disconnect and reconnect the DisplayPort cable or reboot the pc. The other problem is that I often can't Project my screen to "Screen 2 only" (my TV) - until I use "EXTEND" - which makes Windows detect the 2nd TV screen, and then swap it to "Screen 2 only". Which may create issues. I wonder if it's a Windows 10 Creator's version issue or GPU problem.