Question New graphics card performing worse than old one

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sam2112

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I have recently bought a used 1070ti to replace my 1060 3gb I have i7 4790, 16gb hyperx fury ram at 1600mhz, 600w corsair psu, 2 tb seagate barracuda harddrive and a 500gb sandisk ssd. I have noticed that I am getting same fps or a bit worse in games I have re-installed windows and drivers but still no improvement. Please help
 
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Shektron said:
Might be CPU bottleneck, have you ever checked GPU usage of the 1060 3 GB while gaming? What games are we talking about, and what is the FPS you got/get in it?
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I did not check GPU load with 1060. I mainly play rust which is I know is a poorly optimised game however I did not expect to get less around 10fps less in the game when upgrading to a 1070ti.
 
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sam2112 said:
I did not check GPU load with 1060. I mainly play rust which is I know is a poorly optimised game however I did not expect to get less around 10fps less in the game when upgrading to a 1070ti.
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Use MSI Afterburner and check the GPU usage when playing the game. If it's below about 95%, then your CPU is limiting the GPU. Make sure V Sync is off in game settings, and that there is no application limiting your FPS.
 
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Shektron said:
Use MSI Afterburner and check the GPU usage when playing the game. If it's below about 95%, then your CPU is limiting the GPU. Make sure V Sync is off in game settings, and that there is no application limiting your FPS.
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From what I have just monitored in rust my cpu and gpu rarely go above 50% usage they are both usually bettween 30 and 40% usage
 
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alceryes said:
Many times this kind of change comes down to graphics settings (either GPU driver, or game setting). Did you perform any GPU benchmarks with your old card that you could reference?

This isn't a bottleneck issue.
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I didn't do any benchmarks I can do this later but I still don't have any idea what the issue is.
 
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alceryes said:
Benchmarks won't help as much if you didn't do them on your old card (for comparison). Try running through a UserBenchmark (userbenchmark.com) and see how your performance stacks up.
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What I meant is when I have the time I could uninstall all drivers and run a benchmark with the 1060 back in my PC. here is my benchmark results with 1070 they seem alright I am guessing? https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/26510027
 
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You were likely cpu limited in your game.
It was likely mostly single threaded.
Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilization.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

Not much you can do except change out the processor.
You could play with quality settings and resolution.
Possibly there are game settings that will help.
To get a check on the cpu limitation theory, run this test:

In windows power management REDUCE your maximum cpu from 100% to perhaps 80%
If you see a corresponding drop in performance, core speed is the issue.
 
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geofelt said:
You were likely cpu limited in your game.
It was likely mostly single threaded.
Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilization.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

Not much you can do except change out the processor.
You could play with quality settings and resolution.
Possibly there are game settings that will help.
To get a check on the cpu limitation theory, run this test:

In windows power management REDUCE your maximum cpu from 100% to perhaps 80%
If you see a corresponding drop in performance, core speed is the issue.
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I changed max cpu to 80% in power options and still have the same load and performance?
 
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geofelt said:
That is actually good news in that it indicates that your cpu is not the limiting factor.

Do you trust the seller?
I have seen reports of fake GTX1070ti cards.
I think GPU-Z would confirm what you have.

Is it possible that your game has a max fps setting?
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GPU-Z confirms that this is a 1070ti card. I have no idea if it is faulty or what as I am comparing to someone playing rust with a 1060 at the exact same settings, same processor and they have the same fps as me.
 
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At this point we seem to have covered pretty much everything hardware-related, it seems that your game settings are either at fault or Rust is so poorly optimized that it runs better on a 1060 than a 1070 Ti. Have you tried a reinstall of the game itself? Or resetting the settings to default?
 
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Shektron said:
At this point we seem to have covered pretty much everything hardware-related, it seems that your game settings are either at fault or Rust is so poorly optimized that it runs better on a 1060 than a 1070 Ti. Have you tried a reinstall of the game itself? Or resetting the settings to default?
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yes I have this makes no sense tho I have clean installed everything how can a 1060 run better than my 1070ti I have someone else with a 1070 non ti and they still get more fps.
 
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sam2112 said:
What I meant is when I have the time I could uninstall all drivers and run a benchmark with the 1060 back in my PC. here is my benchmark results with 1070 they seem alright I am guessing? https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/26510027
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Got it.
Yeah, that UserBenchmark looks okay. A little high on background processes though.
If you can put your 1060 back in and do direct comparisons that would work.
 
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My RIG:

i7 4790
GTX 1070TI
16gb ddr3 ram 1600mhz
600w corsair power supply
I have recently upgraded to a 1070ti from a 1060 and
I am seeing in some games such as CSGO and Rust that I have below 50% usage on CPU and GPU therefore giving me same or worse fps compared to my 1060 but other games such as warzone I have above 80% usage on GPU and therefore the game run fine. I don't understand how this can be a game related issue as someone with a worse cpu has high gpu usage on the same game. Is there any way I can make it so I utilize my gpu more in games?
 
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My RIG:

i7 4790
GTX 1070TI
16gb ddr3 ram 1600mhz
600w corsair power supply

I have recently upgraded to a 1070ti from a 1060 and
I am seeing in some games such as CSGO and Rust that I have below 50% usage on CPU and GPU therefore giving me same or worse fps compared to my 1060 but other games such as warzone I have above 80% usage on GPU and therefore the game run fine. I don't understand how this can be a game related issue as someone with a worse cpu has high gpu usage on the same game. Is there any way I can make it so I utilize my gpu more in games?
 
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