Question New-ish 18-Core Xeon Build is slow....anyone have some advice?

[RockphotographerVA]

New-ish build is slow ...Asus ROG 18-Core Xeon/64gb RAM/1080Ti SLI Help??

Im having trouble with a 1.5 year old build I did using the components listed below. The system was for photo and video editing up into 4K..

With an 18 core Xeon and 64 gig of RAM, this thing should scream! Anyone interested in helping me try to trace down why this thing just drags ass?

Spoiler: specs

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Xeon v4 @ 2.30GHz 32 °C
Broadwell-E/EP 14nm Technology
RAM
64.0GB Unknown @ 1065MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 (SOCKET 2011) 35 °C
Graphics
Cintiq 22HD (1920x1080@60Hz)
DELL 1908FP (1280x1024@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (EVGA) 30 °C
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (EVGA) 30 °C
ForceWare version: 416.34
SLI Enabled
Storage
1863GB Western Digital WDC WD2003FZEX-00SRLA0 (SATA) 41 °C
22356GB Intel Raid 0 Volume (RAID)
931GB Samsung SSD 960 EVO 1TB (Unknown)
65536GB Drobo 5D3 (USB)
Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

CPU
Intel Xeon v4
Cores 18
Threads 36
Name Intel Xeon v4
Code Name Broadwell-E/EP
Package Socket 2011 LGA
Technology 14nm
Specification Intel Xeon CPU E5-2697 v4 @ 2.30GHz
Family 6
Extended Family 6
Model F
Extended Model 4F
Stepping 1
Revision M0
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Intel 64, NX, VMX, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3
Virtualization Supported, Disabled
Hyperthreading Supported, Enabled
Fan Speed 904 RPM
Stock Core Speed 2300 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 100 MHz
Average Temperature 32 °C
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size 18 x 32 KBytes
L1 Instructions Cache Size 18 x 32 KBytes
L2 Unified Cache Size 18 x 256 KBytes
L3 Unified Cache Size 46080 KBytes
Cores
Core 0
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 0, 1
Core 1
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 2, 3
Core 2
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 33 °C
Threads APIC ID: 4, 5
Core 3
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 6, 7
Core 4
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 8, 9
Core 5
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 16, 17
Core 6
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 18, 19
Core 7
Core Speed 2798.3 MHz
Multiplier x 28.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 36 °C
Threads APIC ID: 20, 21
Core 8
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 22, 23
Core 9
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 32, 33
Core 10
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 34, 35
Core 11
Core Speed 2798.3 MHz
Multiplier x 28.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 33 °C
Threads APIC ID: 36, 37
Core 12
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 31 °C
Threads APIC ID: 38, 39
Core 13
Core Speed 2298.6 MHz
Multiplier x 23.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 40, 41
Core 14
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 48, 49
Core 15
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 32 °C
Threads APIC ID: 50, 51
Core 16
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 31 °C
Threads APIC ID: 52, 53
Core 17
Core Speed 1199.3 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 99.9 MHz
Temperature 31 °C
Threads APIC ID: 54, 55
RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 4
Used memory slots 4
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type Unknown
Size 65536 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 15 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 15 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 15 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 36 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 11 %
Total Physical 64 GB
Available Physical 57 GB
Total Virtual 73 GB
Available Virtual 62 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 4
Slot #1
Type Unknown
Size 16384 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number F4-3000C14-16GTZ
SPD Ext. XMP
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 727.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 24
tRC 34
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 27
tRC 38
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 872.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 12.0
RAS# To CAS# 12
RAS# Precharge 12
tRAS 29
tRC 41
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 945.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 13.0
RAS# To CAS# 13
RAS# Precharge 13
tRAS 32
tRC 45
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 1018.2 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
tRC 48
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 15.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
XMP-3002
Frequency 1501 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
Voltage 1.350 V
Slot #2
Type Unknown
Size 16384 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number F4-3000C14-16GTZ
SPD Ext. XMP
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 727.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 24
tRC 34
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 27
tRC 38
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 872.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 12.0
RAS# To CAS# 12
RAS# Precharge 12
tRAS 29
tRC 41
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 945.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 13.0
RAS# To CAS# 13
RAS# Precharge 13
tRAS 32
tRC 45
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 1018.2 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
tRC 48
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 15.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
XMP-3002
Frequency 1501 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
Voltage 1.350 V
Slot #3
Type Unknown
Size 16384 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number F4-3000C14-16GTZ
SPD Ext. XMP
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 727.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 24
tRC 34
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 27
tRC 38
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 872.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 12.0
RAS# To CAS# 12
RAS# Precharge 12
tRAS 29
tRC 41
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 945.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 13.0
RAS# To CAS# 13
RAS# Precharge 13
tRAS 32
tRC 45
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 1018.2 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
tRC 48
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 15.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
XMP-3002
Frequency 1501 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
Voltage 1.350 V
Slot #4
Type Unknown
Size 16384 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number F4-3000C14-16GTZ
SPD Ext. XMP
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 727.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 24
tRC 34
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 27
tRC 38
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 872.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 12.0
RAS# To CAS# 12
RAS# Precharge 12
tRAS 29
tRC 41
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 945.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 13.0
RAS# To CAS# 13
RAS# Precharge 13
tRAS 32
tRC 45
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 1018.2 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
tRC 48
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 15.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
XMP-3002
Frequency 1501 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
Voltage 1.350 V
Motherboard
Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Model RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 (SOCKET 2011)
Version Rev 1.xx
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model Broadwell-E
Chipset Revision 01
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model X99
Southbridge Revision 05
System Temperature 35 °C
BIOS
Brand American Megatrends Inc.
Version 1801
Date 9/20/2017
Voltage
+5V 5.040 V
+3.3V 3.312 V
+12V 12.192 V
VIN3 0.928 V
VIN4 1.504 V
VCORE 0.896 V
PCI Data
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x16
Slot Designation PCIEX16_1
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 0
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x8
Slot Designation PCIEX8_2
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 1
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x4
Slot Designation PCIEX4_1
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 2
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage In Use
Data lanes x16
Slot Designation PCIEX16/X8_3
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 3
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x1
Slot Designation PCIEX1_1
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 4
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Data lanes x8
Slot Designation PCIEX8_4
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number 5
Graphics
Monitor 1
Name Cintiq 22HD on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Current Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
Work Resolution 1920x1040 pixels
State Enabled
Multiple displays Extended, Primary, Enabled
Monitor Width 1920
Monitor Height 1080
Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Frequency 60 Hz
Device \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0
Monitor 2
Name DELL 1908FP on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Current Resolution 1280x1024 pixels
Work Resolution 1280x984 pixels
State Enabled
Multiple displays Extended, Secondary, Enabled
Monitor Width 1280
Monitor Height 1024
Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Frequency 60 Hz
Device \\.\DISPLAY2\Monitor0
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Model GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Device ID 10DE-1B06
Revision A2
Subvendor EVGA (3842)
Current Performance Level Level 0
Current GPU Clock 139 MHz
Current Memory Clock 405 MHz
Current Shader Clock 405 MHz
Voltage 0.650 V
Current Performance Level Level 0
Current GPU Clock 1569 MHz
Current Memory Clock 5505 MHz
Current Shader Clock 5505 MHz
Voltage 0.650 V
Technology 16 nm
Bus Interface PCI Express x16
Temperature 30 °C
SLI 2 GPUs: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti + GeForce GTX 1080 Ti => Generic PnP Monitor
SLI 2 GPUs: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti + GeForce GTX 1080 Ti => Generic PnP Monitor
Driver version 25.21.14.1634
BIOS Version 86.02.39.00.90
Physical Memory 3071 MB
Virtual Memory 3072 MB
Count of performance levels : 1
Level 1 - "Perf Level 0"
GPU Clock 1303 MHz
Shader Clock 5005 MHz
Count of performance levels : 1
Level 1 - "Perf Level 0"
GPU Clock 1265 MHz
Shader Clock 5005 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Model GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Device ID 10DE-1B06
Revision A2
Subvendor EVGA (3842)
Current Performance Level Level 0
Current GPU Clock 139 MHz
Current Memory Clock 405 MHz
Current Shader Clock 405 MHz
Voltage 0.650 V
Current Performance Level Level 0
Current GPU Clock 1569 MHz
Current Memory Clock 5505 MHz
Current Shader Clock 5505 MHz
Voltage 0.650 V
Technology 16 nm
Bus Interface PCI Express x16
Temperature 30 °C
SLI 2 GPUs: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti + GeForce GTX 1080 Ti => Generic PnP Monitor
SLI 2 GPUs: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti + GeForce GTX 1080 Ti => Generic PnP Monitor
Driver version 25.21.14.1634
BIOS Version 86.02.39.00.90
Physical Memory 3071 MB
Virtual Memory 3072 MB
Count of performance levels : 1
Level 1 - "Perf Level 0"
GPU Clock 1303 MHz
Shader Clock 5005 MHz
Count of performance levels : 1
Level 1 - "Perf Level 0"
GPU Clock 1265 MHz
Shader Clock 5005 MHz
Storage
Hard drives
WDC WD2003FZEX-00SRLA0
Manufacturer Western Digital
Form Factor TB/3.5-inch (new format)
Heads 16
Cylinders 243,201
Tracks 62,016,255
Sectors 3,907,024,065
SATA type SATA-III 6.0Gb/s
Device type Fixed
ATA Standard ACS3
Serial Number WD-WMC6N0H9Z0WM
Firmware Version Number 01.01A01
LBA Size 48-bit LBA
Power On Count 433 times
Power On Time 497.4 days
Speed 7200 RPM
Features S.M.A.R.T., NCQ
Max. Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Used Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s
Interface SATA
Capacity 1863 GB
Real size 2,000,398,934,016 bytes
RAID Type None
S.M.A.R.T
Status Good
Temperature 41 °C
Temperature Range OK (less than 50 °C)

 

[13thmonkey]

It's a slow processor, 2.3 to 3.6 Ghz so multicore maybe 2.8ish, on haswell/broadwell cores, so unless what you are doing is highly parallel and not core speed dependent then it's not going to perform well.

But the real question is what symptoms are you seeing, why do you think it's slow?

 

[RockphotographerVA]

Well my quad core gaming box, which is far older is just snappy....it's like the editing machine is slow loading things and such.

Boot times are about twice my gaming box. That machine is an i7 3.7. Should I look into perhaps a faster version of this processor?

Also...would a RAID array running striped for video purposes that is INTERNAL slow the board down any?

 

[RockphotographerVA]

Should I turn away from the Xeon altogether and do something else?

 

[g-unit1111]

Should I turn away from the Xeon altogether and do something else?

Have you updated your BIOS to the current version and run all software updates? Chances are that there's an update somewhere that could be causing the headaches.

 

[RockphotographerVA]

Have you updated your BIOS to the current version and run all software updates? Chances are that there's an update somewhere that could be causing the headaches.

Sure have...but I see another bios update that I need to do.

I think the poster above may be onto something considering this is essentially a server processor. I may find faster snappier speeds with a desktop 4 or 8 core.

 

[13thmonkey]

2.3Ghz should be fine for a smooth running machine, under single core loads you might find that your other machine is faster, but it should run well enough.

Can you run userbenchmark (he said regretting it), it'll at least tell you if your CPU compares to similar CPUs.

 

[RockphotographerVA]

Apparently the system is operating at less than 50 % of what it should be according to userbenchmark.....It's listing desktop 6 cores as better in the same motherboard...

 

[13thmonkey]

can you link to the results? I'd really like to understand a comparison against a similar CPU,

 

[13thmonkey]

And we appear to have skipped the basics.

What are your CPU temps, and actual core speeds under some kind of load, like user benchmark. How many cores does the task manager show, is this a clean install of windows on this mobo and CPU? what cooler are you using?

 

[RockphotographerVA]

And we appear to have skipped the basics.

What are your CPU temps, and actual core speeds under some kind of load, like user benchmark. How many cores does the task manager show, is this a clean install of windows on this mobo and CPU? what cooler are you using?

Ill check the temps but they're low even under load. It shows 16 cores. This is a full clean build with a fresh install of windows on a stick-type ssd. We are using a Corsair H100 series water cooler (closed loop system).

Ill double check and post the results soon.

 

[RockphotographerVA]

UserBenchmarks:
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2697 V4 - 62%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 158.4%
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 146.9%
HDD: Intel Raid 0 Volume 24TB - 211%
HDD: WD Black 2TB (2013) - 42.6%
USB: Drobo 5D3 70.5TB - 31%
USB: Lexar WorkflowCFR1 8GB - 21.8%
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3000 C14 4x16GB - 130.3%
MBD: Asus RAMPAGE V EDITION 10

 

[RockphotographerVA]

25% load everything in the machine is around 31-34 C

 

[RockphotographerVA]

40% load 40 degrees

 

[13thmonkey]

And what are the actual clock speeds under the loads.

 

[RockphotographerVA]

And what are the actual clock speeds under the loads.

Around 2.2-2.6 ghz....somwehere in there. This is of course what task manager tells me....not a lot of info in there.

 

[13thmonkey]

Just to confirm, try cpu-z. Did user benchmark tell you how you were against similar cpus.

 

[RockphotographerVA]

https://ibb.co/KV8WFdV

 

[RockphotographerVA]

Just to confirm, try cpu-z. Did user benchmark tell you how you were against similar cpus.

Yes it said we were behind other cpus on the same motherboard. A six core I7 was 20 % better in performance.

 

[13thmonkey]

Yes it said we were behind other cpus on the same motherboard. A six core I7 was 20 % better in performance.

Don't care about the same mobo. The 6 core cpu could be running at 4ghz, where it would be expected that yours at 2.3 was at about 60%. It's a cpu to cpu comparison I need.

What I'm trying to ascertain is whether it is running like it should under benchmarks, if it is then any apparent slowness is either just a feeling or a software issue. But we'd prove that the hardware is performing as expected.

Were you surprised that it's using 20GB of memory?

 

[RockphotographerVA]

So in the results it says PC Performing below expectations 40th percentile this time....

 

[RockphotographerVA]

I'm assuming that it's working as it should, but it's not particularly snappy in day-to-day windows tasks and boot speed. My 5 year old gaming box is faster overall....just generally snappier in how fast programs load run, etc...

 

[13thmonkey]

Is memory in quad channel in bios?

 

[RockphotographerVA]

Is memory in quad channel in bios?

I don't see where that might be changed in this bios....though every setting in the world is available. All the timings and all that are set to auto. I

 

[13thmonkey]

cpu-z under the memory tab, should tell you what windows thinks.