Well I got the Fractal case yesterday. It really is a large case, being the XL version. But this case is perfect for my current needs. I used both 5 1/4" bays, plus was able to mount my 2 hard drives on the side of the case. The only thing I didnt like, was the fact when mounting the 5 1/4" drives, that you could only put the screws in one side. The other side flops around, being you dont have access to that side, because of the metal in the way. I did have an issue with the setup once it was all put together. It kept shutting down after 10 minutes, but I put electrical tape on the loose connectors, so they dont ground out. It seems that solved the problem, as its running fine now. I still need to hook up the upper 2 fans in the front, as they aren't working at the moment. Should be able to trace the connectors somewhere. This is a really good case guys! Thank you for the suggestion. Its quite heavy too, as it weighed 22 pounds empty. When everything is in there, the case is close to 40 pounds. Good buy at the price I got, which was $154 Canadian, plus shipping. They sold out of them not long after I got mine. I noticed on Amazon, the used ones go for $190. Yep I got lucky.