new monitor blur problem

[Bill Hilly579]

hi.i just bought my new acer xb271hu 4ms ips monitor and I'm having frustrating issues with it that I cannot find a solution for it.when im playing games or scrolling a page I getmotion blur which is extremely annoying.even when I move my cursor around I get blur.when playing games and cap it at 60hz I notice motion blur even more on it which makes the game unplayable.with my Panasonic tv this never happned with me and 60hz seems smoother on my tv.the only way I can get rid of this blur is by capping the refresh rate at 120hz and enabling ulmb which fixes the issue(as long as the fps dosent ip to 60)but it causes ghosting when I move my tab around.it also causes massive ghosting/flickering when playing games like assasins creed rouge or metro.does anyone know what the problem is it sdriving me crazy.this monitor wasn't cheap and feel I burnt a massive whole in my pocket for nothing.i swear playing on a 60hz capped tv is much more pleasant to me that a 144hz blur simulator.please someone help me

 

[techgeek]

Have you tried setting the Overdrive setting to extreme?

 

[Bill Hilly579]

hi yes I did put it to extreme but it makes horrible ghosting also when I turn off overdrive the smudging or motion blur is much more worse.so I have it right now on normal overdrive.but still on normal overdrive I'm getting blur EVEN on my windows menu.

 

[techgeek]

Have you tried any of the other supported refresh rates that are above 60, but below 144? Say 120Hz. You may find that that is a good compromise.

 

[Bill Hilly579]

I tried 60 85 100 120 and 144hz with the same results except one does it smoother than the other.144hz is the smoothest but still has the blur when moving the mouse around or scrolling a page. However when I set it to 85hz or 120hz and enable ulmb,the blur completely goes away but I get huge ghosting.is this something all ips have?or could it be a defect?.I still have under warranty.if it's an ips thing would you suggest me getting a refund and changing to a TN? Because even my 60hz 2010 Panasonic plasma TV doesn't do that blur effect on my pc but this 2016 monitor does.its crazy

 

[techgeek]

No blurring isn't inherent to IPS. Ghosting can be an issue because IPS tend to have a higher grey to grey times. However that is what the overdrive is supposed to counter. IPS is traditionally used by graphics designers because the color reproduction is very close to perfect. TN panels are faster and you tend to find them in gaming monitors, but they are only 6 bit per color and use a trick called dithering to simulate 8 bits per color. So TN are faster, but not as color accurate.

It's only been the last little while that IPS panels have been getting fast enough and with the use of overdrive (overclocked panels) that they have been fast enough to challenge TN panels. The trade off is the gaming IPS panels are expensive.

My guess is that it's a dud. However if you have another computer to connect it to to see if the problem persists, I'd try that first before returning it. Since you said it happens on the desktop, it should be quickly obvious.

 

[Bill Hilly579]

Oh so it's a possibility it's a fault in it.however I don't think it's from my pc since it doesn't do that on my TV it only does that on this new monitor.I'll try to return it and get a new one but if the problem persist I'll probably just refund it for a rog swift TN. BTW have you heard this issue before?

 

[techgeek]

That's what I'm thinking.

However don't discount your computer as the problem. I assume that you connect to your TV via HDMI, whereas for refresh rates above 60Hz, you have to be using either Dual Link DVI, or DP. So you are using different outputs. If you have ready access to another computer or a friend or family members computer that you could try it before returning it, I would. Especially if returning it is a hassle. You don't want to return it for another only to find that the next one does the same thing.

I do think it's most likely a faulty monitor though.

As for having heard of this particular problem, I can't say that I have. Normally noisy issues (blurred) are more associated with VGA monitors. This would have to be an issue with the panel itself though and not an issue with the connection. Typically digital connections are relatively impervious to noise. If noise gets to the point where it's interfering with the monitor over a digital connection, you just lose connection with the monitor.

 

[Bill Hilly579]

Yeah it possible it's an defect.I'm just gonna stay on the safer side n return it. I'm hoping for the best.thank you for advice i apreciate it

 

[techgeek]

No problem. Post back here once you've gotten the new monitor and let us know how it worked out. It's good for others who may come along looking for answers to the same questions as yours to know whether or not the actionable advice they received actually helped or not.

 

[Bill Hilly579]

hi unfortently they wont accept to return it just replacement.i heard it has something to do with flicker free tech 60hz on my tv flickers instead of blurring(which feels more acceptable) but 60hz on my new 144hz monitor blurs instead of flickering and same with other refresh rate settings.only thing is the higher the refresh rate is the smoother the blur becomes.when turning pixel overdrive from normal to off the blurring becomes more visable despite what refresh rate I'm capped to

 

[techgeek]

hi unfortently they wont accept to return it just replacement.i heard it has something to do with flicker free tech 60hz on my tv flickers instead of blurring(which feels more acceptable) but 60hz on my new 144hz monitor blurs instead of flickering and same with other refresh rate settings.only thing is the higher the refresh rate is the smoother the blur becomes.when turning pixel overdrive from normal to off the blurring becomes more visable despite what refresh rate I'm capped to

So they are telling you that replacing it is going to result in the same thing?

 

[Bill Hilly579]

hi unfortently they wont accept to return it just replacement.i heard it has something to do with flicker free tech 60hz on my tv flickers instead of blurring(which feels more acceptable) but 60hz on my new 144hz monitor blurs instead of flickering and same with other refresh rate settings.only thing is the higher the refresh rate is the smoother the blur becomes.when turning pixel overdrive from normal to off the blurring becomes more visable despite what refresh rate I'm capped to

So they are telling you that replacing it is going to result in the same thing?

hey man im back with my mmonitor and i told the sales person about the issue and they were nce enough to let me use thier computer for some tests.turns out that this blur issue is something every singel monitor has and not a defect. but i still has 1 tiny problem.i reaslized it had ghosting in the background when i move my tab around (and the ghosting looks similar to setting something on 3d its not too much but its spottable) .is that normal too?(sorry all of my pc gamming has been on a tv and i dont know what it was like to be on a monitor)if you like i can post a vid showing you what i mean

 

[techgeek]

Maybe we are losing something in the translation. There should not be any sort of blurred image on your monitor on the desktop. Fast moving objects in games, and in movies can cause blurring to varying extents depending on the GtG times (grey to grey), but on static images or slow moving stuff, shouldn't cause blurring or ghosting. TV's suffer from the same sort of ghosting created by fast moving objects too. It's just the nature of the technology. In a couple years we'll have forgotten about all this once OLED become standard. The first monitors are arriving, so this generation of monitors and maybe one more will likely be the last of the LCD panels we'll see.

A video would sure help. Maybe I've misunderstood what you are looking at. Again though on the desktop, everything should look crisp. Nothing should be blurry or ghosted.

 

[WrathPC]

Hi,

What you are talking about is an LCD problem. Plasma does not blur as it has a 0.001ms pixel gtg speed. Its thousands of times faster than LCD. Unfortunately all LCD will blur and ghost. Only a TN panel with ULMB will work and almost be perfect. I have experienced the very same thing. Had a plasma for years and bought a 144hz pc monitor and was in shock how much blur. I ended up buying 4 monitors untill I got a TN panel with 144hz and ULMB that was acceptable. Some people who have always used pc monitors may not understand how big of a DOWNGRADE any LCD monitor is. Lets hope the oleds are close to the old plasma but in 120hz.

 

[Bill Hilly579]

Hi,

What you are talking about is an LCD problem. Plasma does not blur as it has a 0.001ms pixel gtg speed. Its thousands of times faster than LCD. Unfortunately all LCD will blur and ghost. Only a TN panel with ULMB will work and almost be perfect. I have experienced the very same thing. Had a plasma for years and bought a 144hz pc monitor and was in shock how much blur. I ended up buying 4 monitors untill I got a TN panel with 144hz and ULMB that was acceptable. Some people who have always used pc monitors may not understand how big of a DOWNGRADE any LCD monitor is. Lets hope the oleds are close to the old plasma but in 120hz.

damm.thats an old thread.i was so used to plasma/crt since they both have no blur but when i got an led monitor for the first time.i didnt think this was normal lol

 

[WrathPC]

It sucks that screen technology got worse. Its because led LCD'S are much more energy efficient. And then they lie about no motion blur. Show before and after pictures where the after picture is perfect. Its false advertising. ULMB is the only way to game, but, you need to make sure fps is the same as the refresh rate or you see a ghosting twin frame effect. So at 85 hz just put a 84fps cap on the game to eliminate vsync lag and make sure you tune the game to always run at 84fps amd never go below 80fps. Same method with 100hz or 120hz if ur pc can handle it.

 

[Bill Hilly579]

It sucks that screen technology got worse. Its because led LCD'S are much more energy efficient. And then they lie about no motion blur. Show before and after pictures where the after picture is perfect. Its false advertising. ULMB is the only way to game, but, you need to make sure fps is the same as the refresh rate or you see a ghosting twin frame effect. So at 85 hz just put a 84fps cap on the game to eliminate vsync lag and make sure you tune the game to always run at 84fps amd never go below 80fps. Same method with 100hz or 120hz if ur pc can handle it.

well i guess we just have to put up with the blur and wait for oled gamming monitors.

 

[WrathPC]

It sucks that screen technology got worse. Its because led LCD'S are much more energy efficient. And then they lie about no motion blur. Show before and after pictures where the after picture is perfect. Its false advertising. ULMB is the only way to game, but, you need to make sure fps is the same as the refresh rate or you see a ghosting twin frame effect. So at 85 hz just put a 84fps cap on the game to eliminate vsync lag and make sure you tune the game to always run at 84fps amd never go below 80fps. Same method with 100hz or 120hz if ur pc can handle it.

well i guess we just have to put up with the blur and wait for oled gamming monitors.

 

[WrathPC]

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