[SOLVED] New monitor or GPU

[Mushtibator]

Hi all,
I'm going to be getting either a new monitor or a new GPU and would like some feedback into which one I should get first?

Current monitor - Dell P1914S
Current GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 1650 VENTUS XS 4G OC

Thank you in advance for all your help. 👍

 

[richiestang_78]

I would get a nice 1080P 24inch monitor.

However the 1650 while not bad will struggle to maintain a consistent 60 FPS at 1080P. The 1650 was kinda of a let down of a card, the 1650 Super was significantly better. In the next year or so you should be able to find used 1660 Supers, 2060 Supers, RX5700 etc for quite good deals so upgrade your GPU then.

Also you can find loads of 1080P monitors on ebay

 

[Mushtibator]

Thanks for the reply Richie
Would a 27" monitor be too much for this card then?
Also any recommendations would be highly grateful

 

[richiestang_78]

Thanks for the reply Richie
Would a 27" monitor be too much for this card then?
Also any recommendations would be highly grateful

Its not about size its about resolution and with 1080P 24inches is about as large as you want, any larger and the pixel density is low and it will look blurry. If you want a larger monitor you would want a 1440P resolution and that would require at least a 2060Super or RX5700 to run.

 

[Mushtibator]

Its not about size its about resolution and with 1080P 24inches is about as large as you want, any larger and the pixel density is low and it will look blurry. If you want a larger monitor you would want a 1440P resolution and that would require at least a 2060Super or RX5700 to run.

I apologize in advance if I ask any stupid questions, I know basic PC stuff and I'm learning new things every day.
Is 1440p the same as 144hz? If so, should I get a 1080p 24" monitor and stick with 75hz?
Thanks.

 

[richiestang_78]

I apologize in advance if I ask any stupid questions, I know basic PC stuff and I'm learning new things every day.
Is 1440p the same as 144hz? If so, should I get a 1080p 24" monitor and stick with 75hz?
Thanks.

No 1440P is a resolution, it is between 1080P and 4K.

144hz refers to the refresh rate of the monitor, that's how many times the images can be refreshed on the monitor itself. Frame per Second is how many images the graphics card can deliver to the monitor.

With the 1650 you will be limited to 1080P 60 frames per second. I would however look for a 1080P 75hz to 144hz monitor, if it it features Gsync or Freesync that's even better. Gsync and Freesync are technologies that help remove tearing, stuttering etc from monitors when your graphics card is unable to maintain a consistent frame-rate to the monitor.

 

[Mushtibator]

No 1440P is a resolution, it is between 1080P and 4K.

144hz refers to the refresh rate of the monitor, that's how many times the images can be refreshed on the monitor itself. Frame per Second is how many images the graphics card can deliver to the monitor.

With the 1650 you will be limited to 1080P 60 frames per second. I would however look for a 1080P 75hz to 144hz monitor, if it it features Gsync or Freesync that's even better. Gsync and Freesync are technologies that help remove tearing, stuttering etc from monitors when your graphics card is unable to maintain a consistent frame-rate to the monitor.

Oh ok, so just been looking at monitors, will this one be ok? Is the price about right too?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SS5QLWQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8PgVEbDRR2C9G

 

[King_V]

Its not about size its about resolution and with 1080P 24inches is about as large as you want, any larger and the pixel density is low and it will look blurry. If you want a larger monitor you would want a 1440P resolution and that would require at least a 2060Super or RX5700 to run.

In this, I would disagree, in that I had a 1920x1080 27" monitor and was VERY happy with it.

What is your current video card?

 

[King_V]

Common (modern) screen resolutions:

• Widescreen (16:9 aspect ratio)
  • 1280 x 720 (720p)
  • 1600 x 900
  • 1920 x 1080 (1080p)
  • 2560 x 1440 (1440p)
  • 3840 x 2160 (4K)
  • 2560 x 1080
• Ultrawide (approximately 21:9 aspect ratio)
  • 2560 x 1080
  • 3440 x1440
  • 3840 x 1600

And finally, whatever monitor you get, I would strongly suggest getting FreeSync. AMD cards support it, and all 10-, 16-, and 20- series Nvidia cards support it (but they still call it GSync in their drivers).

Actual GSync adds a significant amount to the price of the monitor, and it's a closed-standard, Nvidia only.

 

[Mushtibator]

In this, I would disagree, in that I had a 1920x1080 27" monitor and was VERY happy with it.

What is your current video card?

Me or Richie?
If me, mine is MSI GeForce GTX 1650 VENTUS XS 4G OC

I am using my PC for gaming if this makes picking any easier.

I found this monitor
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SS5QLWQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8PgVEbDRR2C9G

This monitor also comes in a 27"
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07T4BS6YJ/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_NPgVEbR2X5YDC

I'd prefer to get the 27" but don't know if my GPU will be ok with this size

 

[King_V]

Oh, yeah, sorry my bad, for some reason I misread and thought you were considering the 1650, and not currently owning one.

The GPU neither knows nor cares what SIZE the monitor is - it's concerned with resolution, and refresh rate.

The 1650 will struggle with 1920x1080@60Hz at max details in modern games. Your existing monitor is 1280 x 1024, so, 1920x1080 will put more of a load on the GPU for gaming. That said, you can turn details down as needed. While I prefer 27" vs 24" on a 1920x1080 monitor, I believe that the quality improvement over your existing one makes either one worth considering.

Then, upgrade the graphics card later on - in the future, it's more likely you can get a better price/performance on a GPU than in the present, and I think your eyes will thank you for having a larger, crisper monitor.

 

[Mushtibator]

Oh, yeah, sorry my bad, for some reason I misread and thought you were considering the 1650, and not currently owning one.

The GPU neither knows nor cares what SIZE the monitor is - it's concerned with resolution, and refresh rate.

The 1650 will struggle with 1920x1080@60Hz at max details in modern games. Your existing monitor is 1280 x 1024, so, 1920x1080 will put more of a load on the GPU for gaming. That said, you can turn details down as needed. While I prefer 27" vs 24" on a 1920x1080 monitor, I believe that the quality improvement over your existing one makes either one worth considering.

Then, upgrade the graphics card later on - in the future, it's more likely you can get a better price/performance on a GPU than in the present, and I think your eyes will thank you for having a larger, crisper monitor.

Oh ok I'm with you, yeah so if I get the 27" now instead of getting a 24" then a 27" later on, I'd save some money? Then get a better GPU in the not to distant future

 

[King_V]

That's what I'd go with. The new monitor benefits from a more comfortable feel for your eyes, even outside of gaming. I think that the need to turn down settings in games is outweighed by the better display.

Then get a better GPU when you've got the funds for it.

 

[Mushtibator]

That's what I'd go with. The new monitor benefits from a more comfortable feel for your eyes, even outside of gaming. I think that the need to turn down settings in games is outweighed by the better display.

Then get a better GPU when you've got the funds for it.

Thanks pal, really really appreciate your knowledge and advice. I'm going for the 27" 👍.
Take care and stay safe

 

[test_123]

New video card definitely! Monitors are slow to change. They are in the middle of transition phase with HDR, high speed IPS, and HDMI 2.1 etc..... After you have a little time with your new GPU, the monitor you want might actually show up. I bought a gtx 2080 and the monitor ,I want to go with it, is still not available for sale! FYI I'm waiting for LG's 27GL950

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn950-b-gaming-monitor