New Monitor or New GPU?

[Kenpilot]

Hey guys. Deciding on getting a new monitor or new GPU. I mostly play racing and flight simulators like iracing, DCS World Flaming Cliffs 3 and some FPS like Call of Duty, etc. Here's my current setup:
Monitor: Acer H243H
GPU: GEFORCE GTX 1050Ti
Intel Core i5 750 (NOT overclocked)
RAM: 16GB
MOB: EVGA P55 SLI E657

Eventually I'd love to do triple screens but for now was thinking of just upgrading to a more up to date 27" monitor. Like most of us, I'm on a budget so I'd like to get the most for my money. Not looking to spend over $400. Was looking at possibly the ASUS AVG278HV or the BEnQ XL2720. Do you guys think it would be more beneficial to update my GPU and keep the older Acer monitor or keep my more modern GPU and update the monitor and go to 27" from my 24"? Thanks!!

 

[elbert]

The video card is bit on the low end but if you go 27 inch it should be 1440p. Here is good monitor. You should save up for an rx580 to support the monitor better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Monitor: BenQ - GW2765HT 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($299.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $299.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-19 16:28 EDT-0400

 

[feelinfroggy777]

With your GPU I would go with a 1080p, high refresh rate monitor. Your system will struggle to push higher resolution at playable fps.

You can get a very high end 24" monitor for $400.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009908

If you want a high end 27" it will cost $500

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824011098

 

[cryoburner]

I kind of agree that a 1080p 144Hz screen might be better than a 1440p screen in your scenario.

A 1050 Ti is not exactly 1440p capable in modern games, so you would need to either run your games at a non-native resolution or turn your graphics options way down, either of which would probably look worse than what you already have.

Also, it's worth pointing out that cryptocurrency miners have driven up the price of the RX 580 so much that it's not a particularly viable option at this time, costing nearly twice as much as it did when it launched several months back. Other mid-range cards have also increased in price to some extent, so it's still not really an ideal time to be shopping for a graphics card.

 

[aquielisunari]

Hey guys. Deciding on getting a new monitor or new GPU. I mostly play racing and flight simulators like iracing, DCS World Flaming Cliffs 3 and some FPS like Call of Duty, etc. Here's my current setup:
Monitor: Acer H243H
GPU: GEFORCE GTX 1050Ti
Intel Core i5 750 (NOT overclocked)
RAM: 16GB
MOB: EVGA P55 SLI E657

Eventually I'd love to do triple screens but for now was thinking of just upgrading to a more up to date 27" monitor. Like most of us, I'm on a budget so I'd like to get the most for my money. Not looking to spend over $400. Was looking at possibly the ASUS AVG278HV or the BEnQ XL2720. Do you guys think it would be more beneficial to update my GPU and keep the older Acer monitor or keep my more modern GPU and update the monitor and go to 27" from my 24"? Thanks!!

With the budget in mind I suggest https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487261. While it's a performance boost I really don't see it as enough of a boost. When upgrading I prefer to skip at least one level, so to speak. I have the 970. My eye is on the 1080. I'd jump up to a 1070 and sell the Ti or keep for troubleshooting. But that does get complicated. You might also need a new PSU. It is also overkill for the 750 but when/if you overhaul your rig your 1070 will be ready for anything.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009769 is my choice with your budget. The 1050Ti isn't really ready for this level of gaming. The 1060 is. With such high speed gaming a high refresh rate is more desirable than a higher resolution. However your budget allows the cake and eating of said cake.

First? The card.

If you can find one without Freesync for less money that would be even better. Using Nvidia with that monitor won't cause any issues. It will just be an unused feature.

 

[Kenpilot]

Thanks for all the answers so far guys, I really appreciate it. Like I mentioned in my original post, I'd like to go to a triple monitor setup someday in the near future, and it would be great if I only had to buy a new GPU once, one that would support that too. I'm guessing the recommended GPUs for that are going to be well above my $400 budget, is that a correct assumption? Or would the 1060 or RX580 do just fine? I'm also hoping to do that with 27"monitors. So I know I will definitely be upgrading my 24 to a 27" very soon.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Thanks for all the answers so far guys, I really appreciate it. Like I mentioned in my original post, I'd like to go to a triple monitor setup someday in the near future, and it would be great if I only had to buy a new GPU once, one that would support that too. I'm guessing the recommended GPUs for that are going to be well above my $400 budget, is that a correct assumption? Or would the 1060 or RX580 do just fine? I'm also hoping to do that with 27"monitors. So I know I will definitely be upgrading my 24 to a 27" very soon.

If you are wanting a triple monitor setup for gaming you will need a pretty good GPU to push all of those pixels. Triple 1080p 60hz monitor will be much harder to push than a 1440p 144hz monitor. You would need at least a 1070 and you would need a new CPU if you decide to go with a new GPU. Your CPU will struggle to keep even a 1060 fed at 1080p, even more so a 1070. Then you will be looking at a significant expense because you would essentially be purchasing a whole new system.

You could consider a ultra wide monitor which is much better than a triple monitor setup because there are no bezels. But you wont be able to get that for 400. Here is a link.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009874

 

[JackM3]

With that GPU you can easily push high resolution displays.

 

[aquielisunari]

Thanks for all the answers so far guys, I really appreciate it. Like I mentioned in my original post, I'd like to go to a triple monitor setup someday in the near future, and it would be great if I only had to buy a new GPU once, one that would support that too. I'm guessing the recommended GPUs for that are going to be well above my $400 budget, is that a correct assumption? Or would the 1060 or RX580 do just fine? I'm also hoping to do that with 27"monitors. So I know I will definitely be upgrading my 24 to a 27" very soon.

You are going outside of even the 1070's abilities if you want a triple monitor 144Hz 1440p 27" setup. You would be better prepared with a 11GB 1080Ti.

To be clear when I said high speed gaming I was referring to the speed of the cars and planes.

 

[elbert]

Thanks for all the answers so far guys, I really appreciate it. Like I mentioned in my original post, I'd like to go to a triple monitor setup someday in the near future, and it would be great if I only had to buy a new GPU once, one that would support that too. I'm guessing the recommended GPUs for that are going to be well above my $400 budget, is that a correct assumption? Or would the 1060 or RX580 do just fine? I'm also hoping to do that with 27"monitors. So I know I will definitely be upgrading my 24 to a 27" very soon.

Three in portrait is a resolution of 3240X1920 or getting near 4K so you may want the option of 2 X rx580's. With a rx580 you would have the option if a single one didn't have enough performance to run a second in crossfire. The 1060 unfortuantly cant be SLI. I suggest going higher resotuion as those monitor brezels will drive you nuts.

 

[aquielisunari]

Thanks for all the answers so far guys, I really appreciate it. Like I mentioned in my original post, I'd like to go to a triple monitor setup someday in the near future, and it would be great if I only had to buy a new GPU once, one that would support that too. I'm guessing the recommended GPUs for that are going to be well above my $400 budget, is that a correct assumption? Or would the 1060 or RX580 do just fine? I'm also hoping to do that with 27"monitors. So I know I will definitely be upgrading my 24 to a 27" very soon.

Three in portrait is a resolution of 3240X1920 or getting near 4K so you may want the option of 2 X rx580's. With a rx580 you would have the option if a single one didn't have enough performance to run a second in crossfire. The 1060 unfortuantly cant be SLI. I suggest going higher resotuion as those monitor brezels will drive you nuts.

The downside is that not all games are crossfire friendly and the VRAM isn't doubled. The value is decreased.

 

[elbert]

Yup thats why in my first post I suggest a 1440p and future rx580 upgrade.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

580s are way too expensive right now to even consider buying. And definitely don't do crossfire.

With OPs CPU, the 1050ti is a good choice. Any other GPU will not see a big performance boost at 1080p.

For the OP to go to 1440p gaming it would cost over 1k to buy CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/Monitor

 

[elbert]

Vega has launched and those are a far better bit mining card. Speculation is they will become the card to have for the miners. Much like the 1050ti they will no longer be buying the rx580/rx570's much. The rx580's should return to normal pricing in a few months.

 

[JackM3]

Yea I would really wait a bit because prices are way over the retail prices due to mining.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Vega has launched and those are a far better bit mining card. Speculation is they will become the card to have for the miners. Much like the 1050ti they will no longer be buying the rx580/rx570's much. The rx580's should return to normal pricing in a few months.

Vega may bet a better MH/s than the 480/580, but it uses way too much power for a profitable mining card. It is not a great mining card, at least not right now. Similar mining performance can be had with the 1080ti, but its power consumption does not make it profitable and Vega uses a lot more power.

Vega is not a bad gaming card if you get it for the right price. But the prices right now are just silly. $599 for a reference Vega is a joke. $699 for a water cooled Vega is an insult. We will see if anyone can get the Vega 56 for $399, because at $499 the smart buy is the 1080.

 

[Kenpilot]

Thanks again everybody for your answers and suggestions. It looks like since I don't plan on updating my system just yet, I'm better off just upgrading my monitor to a decent 27" to take advantage of what I do have right now. I could upgrade my GPU but it sounds like I'm only going to get a slight boost in performance with my current setup and when I'm ready to go to triple monitors or even ultra wide screen, I'm going to have to upgrade my GPU again. I'd rather pay for a new one once. Does anyone have anymore suggestions for a decent 27" gaming monitor that will take advantage of the system that I have? I actually get pretty good performance from my current monitor but it's pretty old now and I want bigger. Trying to stay in the $300-$400 price range. Thanks again everybody.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Thanks again everybody for your answers and suggestions. It looks like since I don't plan on updating my system just yet, I'm better off just upgrading my monitor to a decent 27" to take advantage of what I do have right now. I could upgrade my GPU but it sounds like I'm only going to get a slight boost in performance with my current setup and when I'm ready to go to triple monitors or even ultra wide screen, I'm going to have to upgrade my GPU again. I'd rather pay for a new one once. Does anyone have anymore suggestions for a decent 27" gaming monitor that will take advantage of the system that I have? I actually get pretty good performance from my current monitor but it's pretty old now and I want bigger. Trying to stay in the $300-$400 price range. Thanks again everybody.

You won't be able to get a gsync monitor in that price range. But this is a good one that hits your specs under $400.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116784

 

[Kenpilot]

I decided on just upgrading my monitor for now and will be saving to do a complete system upgrade along with either a triple monitor set up or ultra-wide monitor in the future, depending on what the best option is at that time. Thanks again for all your help. I went ahead and ordered the ViewSonic XG2701 27"..

 

[elbert]

Vega has launched and those are a far better bit mining card. Speculation is they will become the card to have for the miners. Much like the 1050ti they will no longer be buying the rx580/rx570's much. The rx580's should return to normal pricing in a few months.

Vega may bet a better MH/s than the 480/580, but it uses way too much power for a profitable mining card. It is not a great mining card, at least not right now. Similar mining performance can be had with the 1080ti, but its power consumption does not make it profitable and Vega uses a lot more power.

Vega is not a bad gaming card if you get it for the right price. But the prices right now are just silly. $599 for a reference Vega is a joke. $699 for a water cooled Vega is an insult. We will see if anyone can get the Vega 56 for $399, because at $499 the smart buy is the 1080.

Actually it is after AMD added the relive beta blockchain compute drivers. Vega is over 36Mh/$ and nearly twice as fast as the old rx480 for mining. Some are getting over 40Mh/$ with overclocks. The Vega 56 is breaking 35Mh/$ with the new drivers as reported in the second link.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58776/amds-new-driver-vega-improves-mining-performance/index.html
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-responds-radeon-rx-vega-pricing-more-499-vega-64-available-soon

Also factoring in the extra PCIE real estate the rx580 requires eth miners will be going for Vega. With any luck the rx580 should be in stock by black friday.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Vega has launched and those are a far better bit mining card. Speculation is they will become the card to have for the miners. Much like the 1050ti they will no longer be buying the rx580/rx570's much. The rx580's should return to normal pricing in a few months.

Vega may bet a better MH/s than the 480/580, but it uses way too much power for a profitable mining card. It is not a great mining card, at least not right now. Similar mining performance can be had with the 1080ti, but its power consumption does not make it profitable and Vega uses a lot more power.

Vega is not a bad gaming card if you get it for the right price. But the prices right now are just silly. $599 for a reference Vega is a joke. $699 for a water cooled Vega is an insult. We will see if anyone can get the Vega 56 for $399, because at $499 the smart buy is the 1080.

Actually it is after AMD added the relive beta blockchain compute drivers. Vega is over 36Mh/$ and nearly twice as fast as the old rx480 for mining. Some are getting over 40Mh/$ with overclocks. The Vega 56 is breaking 35Mh/$ with the new drivers as reported in the second link.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58776/amds-new-driver-vega-improves-mining-performance/index.html
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-responds-radeon-rx-vega-pricing-more-499-vega-64-available-soon

Also factoring in the extra PCIE real estate the rx580 requires eth miners will be going for Vega. With any luck the rx580 should be in stock by black friday.

I have seen the charts with the beta drivers from AMD. The 1080ti can run 31 MH/s, but is not very good card for mining due to the power draw. The Vega 64 uses more power than the 1080ti. For Vega to be a profitable mining card, Etherium prices will have to go even higher (which I hope they dont). The Vega 56 may be a decent mining card because it is cheaper and has a smaller power draw, but the power draw is still more than any of the other cards used for mining.

 

[Kenpilot]

Hey guys, the ViewSonic XG2701 that I ordered is going to take longer to deliver than initially quoted. I'm a pretty impatient guy and wanted something yesterday. I can pick up the Dell - 27" LED GSync Monitor S2716DGR on sale for $450, today. Will my system be able to benefit from the gsync and the 2560X1440 display? Or will it be possible to drop it down to 1080? I know earlier in the thread you guys suggested not to go to 1440 with my system but wasn't sure if this monitor would still be able to operate at 1080 and with gsync. Is it worth the extra $100 for the gsync for my system? Thanks!

Monitor: Acer H243H
GPU: GEFORCE GTX 1050Ti
Intel Core i5 750 (NOT overclocked)
RAM: 16GB
MOB: EVGA P55 SLI E657

 

[elbert]

If you plan to get a rx580 or 1060 soon it should be fine. Use the old 1080p for a secondary web browser screen.

 

[Kenpilot]

I eventually plan on building a whole new system with a 1080 ti and triple screen or ultra wide side set up. Right now I just want a bigger screen but with smooth, fast graphics as best I can with the set up that I have now, without breaking the bank since I'll be doing that when I build my new setup.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

I eventually plan on building a whole new system with a 1080 ti and triple screen or ultra wide side set up. Right now I just want a bigger screen but with smooth, fast graphics as best I can with the set up that I have now, without breaking the bank since I'll be doing that when I build my new setup.

You are not going to get very good fps on a 1440p monitor using a 1050ti. I would not even recommend a 1060/580 for 1440p. You can downscale a 1440p monitor to run 1080p, but it wont look very good (blurry) because you wont be getting 1:1 pixel mapping. It would actually look better on 720p because 720p is exactly 1/4 of 1440p resolution.