Question New PC Build - Are the Asus Auto Overclocking profile on X670E boards safe to use with Noctua NH-D15S?

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These are the components I'm looking at. These will be paired with the 7900 xtx I already have that is currently being underutilised in my i7 8700k rig.


From watching this video I believe I can use the Asus X3D Overclock Profile that is on the Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI.

View: https://youtu.be/90UBUq1mLGY?si=EgD4QDZ6Eu0cbDrF

As I understand it AMD had some issues with 7 series Ryzen CPUs frying themselves. But since then there has been a bios update sent out that stops them going over a certain voltage. Also Asus had some issues with a resistor being reveresed on some boards but have also fixed this issue on any new boards being sent out.

With that being said I'm still a bit worried about using an auto overclocking profile on this asus board especially with the ryzen 7 cpu as I do believe the profile is applying extra voltage to the CPU. I am hoping Asus and AMD has there business in order now and this easy overclock feature is not dangerous and easy to try out.

Best case scenario in my head is I turn it on. The Noctua NH-D15s is able to keep it cool enough. The Asus auto overclock profile on the board is designed well and is not dangerous to use. It is after all supposed to be an easy overclocking feature for noobs like me, I would have thought, and hoping that it's not putting the cpu into dangerous territory.

I will ofc turn on PBO and Expo as well. And attempt to clock the ram up to 6400 but apparently I may need to clock it down to 6200 or 6000 depending on whether I got lucky with the cpu and won the silicon lottery. All the instructions for doing so are well laid out in this video above.

I'm also willing to experiment with the curve optimized settings to see if I can set a negative offset on each core which is also explained well in the video, and I believe will allow PBO to boost the individual cores a little better if I tweak each core indivudually. Or can do a less accurate all core curve like he did in the video.

I don't like AIO coolers and not willing to go for a full watercooling setup. The Noctua NH-D15s is the best air cooler I know of and will be using this.

I am running AAA modern games at 1440p ultra settings. I play competitive games and want to reduce input lagg, micro stutters, 1% lows as well as get as many frames as possible while having the game run at 1440p ultra if possible.

A worse scenario is I spent extra money on the Asus X670 instead of buying a Gigabyte B650 and just turning on PBO and Expo instead. And the ram needs to be clocked down to 6000 but perhaps one day could clock it up if I upgrade cpu but would be years from now. 6400 ram is only 5 bucks more than 6000 though so not too bothered about the savings here.

And even if my cooling wasn't adequate for the Asus Overclock profile (which I believe is just hard coded no AI or stress test to check individual system but probably catered to a wide variety of 7800x3d setups?) the PC crashes or I see the temps are higher than I would like and I end up turning it off and just using PBO and expo. Ideally having not fried the CPU. The downside being I feel like I wasted a lot of money on an X670 mobo.

Worse case scenario it frys the CPU and I send it back to amazon and have to get a replacement. Or maybe one even worse scenario they don't give me a replacement or refund and hold me responsible.

Would the extra boost you get even make much of a difference and be worth the money? Bare in mind am interested in reducing micro stutters and any kind of frame dips or input lagg or anything to make online competitive games as smooth as possible.

Although I will be needing a new monitor too one day to actually experience above the 144hz monitor I have right now. But am waiting for 3440x1600 monitors with 240hz to come out. Currently there are none at this resolution at 240hz. They have a bit more pixel density vertically than a typical 2440x1440 or 3440x1440 monitor, as well as being widescreen, but without having to push as many pixels as 4k.

Thank you for any input you have in helping me make my decision.

In a nutshell, is the X670 asus board worth it or should I just save myself 100 bucks and get a B650?
 
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I am worried about manual overclocking though and would rather try this auto overclock feature.
Even when it works it's mostly very mild OC or even less than optimal automatic settings, MB manufacturers don't want bad rap of burning components. Beside that, most modern processors are already made to a standard with very little variation between specimens which was main reason for overclock. Ryzen, specially latest versions is made with new technology that allowed for very small variations, mostly shown only by "X" in model suffix , ones with it were tested to slightly better binning than non-x although often they can be brought to same performance by altering BIOS parameters that AMD deems appropriate,
In short, it's better just to optimize BIOS to settings according to cooler solution, better cooling and voltage control can bring better performance. Ryzen has builtin limits for temperature, voltage and load that traditional OC can't or is difficult to overcame. In addition, 5000 and 7000 series are allowed (by built in algorithm) much higher temps , typically 90-95c before loosing boost and performance. Mid 80's c is temps they aim for. lower than those brings nothing, not even longevity.
 

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I would certainly hope that any automatic overclock would be "safe", i.e. your computer shouldn't die immediately during the process.

However, most overclocks on modern CPUs are only of any major benefit in certain specific circumstances. Modern Intel and AMD CPUs selectively overclock (boost) when necessary up a limit defined by your cooling solution.

Automatic single/dual core boost for lightly threaded apps will suffer if you apply a permanent overclock, but if the main use for your PC is rendering, you might benefit from an all-core overclock.

I'm all in favour of manual overclocks on 10-year old CPUs and I'll happily push ancient dual and quad core chips up 1GHz or more past their normal speed, but I've left my 7950X and 3800X rigs alone and not even applied PBO.

Apart from a few "pretty" benchmark figures, you're unlikely to notice any observable improvement, if you try to overclock your CPU. They're already overclocked out of the box.

If you want to do things properly, buy an LN2 pot for your CPU and a quart of liquid Nitrogen. That should net you some impressive benchmark figures.
 
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