Question New PC build for games

[asdqwe321]

I'm planning on getting a new PC in the upcoming weeks and I need advice if the build is good / can be improved.
The PC will be mainly used for gaming. My price range is around 2000-2200.
I've filtered the GPUs to the 3 Gigabytes but honestly I don't know what is the difference.
Can any of the other parts be changed for better within the price range?
I also wonder if the case would be good enough/ big enough for the CPU cooler.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($1019.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($839.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.39 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Asus ROG-STRIX-850G 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3546.26

 

[Lafong]

Were you attracted to that motherboard for any particular reason?

DeepCool-CC560

CC560 - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance PC hardware and high-quality thermal solutions for enthusiasts across the world.

global.deepcool.com

max cooler height 163 mm in that case.

NH-D15 chromax.black

The NH-D15 chromax.black is an all-black version of Noctua’s award-winning flagship model NH-D15 premium-quality quiet CPU cooler. Thanks to the same proven dual-tower heatsink design and NF-A15 PWM fans, it stays true to the NH-D15’s successful formula of rivalling the performance of all-in-one...

noctua.at

Noctua cooler height 165 mm with fan.

No can do unless fan height is adjustable. It might be.

Or choose another cooler comparable to the Noctua.

 

[Phaaze88]

Pretty good list on the first try.
-The cooler isn't compatible though; it's a few mms too tall. How's about D15S or Thermalright's Peerless Assassin 120?


There's no real difference between the three gpus - at least in game. That $1000 one is a 3rd party seller trying to rip someone off, though.

 

[Why_Me]

Review of that Kingston SSD in your build.

Kingston NV2 SSD Review: Cheap But Risky

A generic budget SSD with irregular hardware

www.tomshardware.com

I would look for a board with better VRM's than that Gigabyte board. Try this.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($107.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1781.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 04:43 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Intel® Core™ i7-13700F Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i7-13700F Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

www.intel.com

AG620 BK ARGB - DeepCool

The DeepCool AG620 BK ARGB is a dual-tower 120mm CPU cooler that boasts impressive 260W cooling power performance that's been stripped down and optimized for terrific efficiency throughout. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance PC...

www.deepcool.com

 

[imsurgical]

My recommendation (AMD):

• Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING (Newegg)
• CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (Newegg)
• CPU Cooler: DeepCool LS520 SE 240mm AIO (Newegg)
• Memory: G.SKILL Flare X5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 CAS 30 (Newegg)
• Storage: SN850X 2TB (Newegg) (is $10 cheaper at Best Buy at the moment)
• GPU: MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (Newegg/Amazon/Best Buy)
• PSU: Corsair SF750 Platinum (SFX) (Newegg)
• PSU Alternate: Corsair SF850L (SFX-L) (if you want more headroom and a built in 12VHPWR header) (Amazon)
• Case: Lian Li/DAN: A4H20 (Newegg)
• Case alternate: NR200 (Newegg **significantly cheaper than an A4H20...currently $114 at the moment and $69 only if you take advantage of the promo...a little bit larger but still much smaller by comparison to any ATX/Micro ATX**

Approximate total /w tax & shipping: $2367 (just a bit above your top end budget)

My recommendation (Intel):

• Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790I EDGE WIFI (Newegg/Amazon)
• CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K (Newegg/Amazon)
• CPU Cooler: DeepCool LS520 SE 240mm AIO (Newegg)
• Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 CAS 30 (Newegg/Amazon)
• Storage: SN850X 2TB (Newegg/Best Buy *$10 cheaper at the moment*)
• GPU: MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (Newegg/Amazon/Best Buy)
• PSU: Corsair SF750 Platinum (SFX) (Newegg)
• PSU Alternate: Corsair SF850L (SFX-L) (if you want more headroom and a built in 12VHPWR header) (Amazon *$10 more than SF750*)
• Case: Lian Li/DAN: A4H20 (Newegg)
• Case alternate: NR200 (Newegg **significantly cheaper than an A4H20...currently $114 at the moment and $69 only if you take advantage of the promo...a little bit larger but still much smaller by comparison to any ATX/Micro ATX** thisshould put you right at, or just under your $2200 budget as well, even without promo code and at $114)

Approximate total /w tax & shipping: $2249 (also just a bit above your top end budget

Totally understand you have a budget, it's great to have one when doing a build, no matter how expensive/inexpensive since that interpretation is different for everyone. That being said, it's my strong opinion, that if you're spending anywhere from the $2000-2200 range that you might as well go for that "bit more" to the point it nets you parts that are conducive to being more of a "permanent slot-in" part rather than a side-grade/temp drop-in part. By that I mean that you want to go with a platform that is "young", where you're doing the least amount of upgrading as possible, and with as little amount of parts as possible if you're the type who doesn't build annually or even semi-annually.

This is why I listed two builds, in case you are very adamant about Intel, which is totally fine. The first build being an AMD platform because it's a newer socket, meaning there's more time involved to allow you to do a drop-in upgrade to the near end of the platforms life, and the 7800X3D is right there, or faster even in some regards for pure gaming than a 13700K.

Does that mean AMD is better than Intel, or vice-versa? Absolutely not, but if you are trying to get the most bang for your buck, the AMD platform is my first recommendation. LGA1700 is great, but it is irrefutably done for its life...yes we may see a Raptor Lake refresh, but it's already been heavily speculated by many to have marginal gains than existing Raptor Lake. LGA 1851 is the next socket interation for Meteor Lake, meaning if you bought Intel right now, you'd be pidgeon holed into the LGA 1700 socket and be left with little else to drop-in upgrade down the road. Not to mention that if you are going with B700 chipset, you're left with even less in terms of a "future proof" build; virtually no M.2 PCIe 5.0 support (yes I know those drives are expensive, but only because there is no demand for them at the moment), and most of the "cheaper" B700 boards do not have PCIe 5.0 X16 as well. So if you're spending upwards for a B700 board that does have those features, you're getting closer to a Z700 chipset...and in that case if you do step up to Z700 chipset, you're getting into AMD board territory where most of their AM5 X670(E)/B650(E) boards also feature those newer "standards".

There is no more reason, not even for Tom's Hardware, anymore to say that AMD/AM5 platform is ludicrous "simply because" of the cost of DDR5...

In terms of why the case and board is ITX? The simple truth is that many of the interfaces on ATX and even Micro ATX is in excess. Sure, you may need an additional PCIE slot for some sort of riser card (sound card, capture card etc), but many of those things can be, and are, most times better as external devices. Especially coming from the perspective of if you're trying to reuse those things in the future across not only each new PC built, but any PC...whether that be a laptop, a friends/families PC etc. Not to mention the desktop space saved, and the biggest reason of all for ITX: you don't lose any core performance versus its larger siblings that are 2-2.5x larger cases. It's all still there in a much smaller package.

With ITX/SFF cases over the past couple years, you're no longer nearly as restricted by GPU dimensions, lack of power delivery or output from an SFX PSU, and many SFF cases can still accommodate some of the best air cooled heatsinks in the market if not be designed for slotting in an AIO and the accompanying radiator.

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($409.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK500 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1182.58 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2224.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 04:28 EDT-0400

This is a step up in Performance for same price.

All High Quality Components.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Alternate cooler: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jX...der-140-black-955-cfm-cpu-cooler-fc-140-black

Alternate SSD: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cr...pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e

AM5 / 7800X3D / 7900XT option with those choices:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($441.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140 BLACK 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($50.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($204.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1788.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 04:43 EDT-0400

 

[asdqwe321]

Were you attracted to that motherboard for any particular reason?

DeepCool-CC560

CC560 - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional, innovative, high-performance PC hardware and high-quality thermal solutions for enthusiasts across the world.

global.deepcool.com

max cooler height 163 mm in that case.

NH-D15 chromax.black

The NH-D15 chromax.black is an all-black version of Noctua’s award-winning flagship model NH-D15 premium-quality quiet CPU cooler. Thanks to the same proven dual-tower heatsink design and NF-A15 PWM fans, it stays true to the NH-D15’s successful formula of rivalling the performance of all-in-one...

noctua.at

Noctua cooler height 165 mm with fan.

No can do unless fan height is adjustable. It might be.

Or choose another cooler comparable to the Noctua.

Not attracted to the MB at all, I just thought the Gigabyte one was good. But will definitely pick another.

Pretty good list on the first try.
-The cooler isn't compatible though; it's a few mms too tall. How's about D15S or Thermalright's Peerless Assassin 120?


There's no real difference between the three gpus - at least in game. That $1000 one is a 3rd party seller trying to rip someone off, though.

I won't be buying the parts from Amazon either. I will be using a local store where I get decent prices compared to other ones. They don't have of course all the products of Amazon but they did a good job for my current PC. I prefer getting parts from local stores for warranty reasons.

My recommendation (AMD):

• Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING (Newegg)
• CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (Newegg)
• CPU Cooler: DeepCool LS520 SE 240mm AIO (Newegg)
• Memory: G.SKILL Flare X5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 CAS 30 (Newegg)
• Storage: SN850X 2TB (Newegg) (is $10 cheaper at Best Buy at the moment)
• GPU: MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (Newegg/Amazon/Best Buy)
• PSU: Corsair SF750 Platinum (SFX) (Newegg)
• PSU Alternate: Corsair SF850L (SFX-L) (if you want more headroom and a built in 12VHPWR header) (Amazon)
• Case: Lian Li/DAN: A4H20 (Newegg)
• Case alternate: NR200 (Newegg **significantly cheaper than an A4H20...currently $114 at the moment and $69 only if you take advantage of the promo...a little bit larger but still much smaller by comparison to any ATX/Micro ATX**

Approximate total /w tax & shipping: $2367 (just a bit above your top end budget)

My recommendation (Intel):

• Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790I EDGE WIFI (Newegg/Amazon)
• CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K (Newegg/Amazon)
• CPU Cooler: DeepCool LS520 SE 240mm AIO (Newegg)
• Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5 6000 CAS 30 (Newegg/Amazon)
• Storage: SN850X 2TB (Newegg/Best Buy *$10 cheaper at the moment*)
• GPU: MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (Newegg/Amazon/Best Buy)
• PSU: Corsair SF750 Platinum (SFX) (Newegg)
• PSU Alternate: Corsair SF850L (SFX-L) (if you want more headroom and a built in 12VHPWR header) (Amazon *$10 more than SF750*)
• Case: Lian Li/DAN: A4H20 (Newegg)
• Case alternate: NR200 (Newegg **significantly cheaper than an A4H20...currently $114 at the moment and $69 only if you take advantage of the promo...a little bit larger but still much smaller by comparison to any ATX/Micro ATX** thisshould put you right at, or just under your $2200 budget as well, even without promo code and at $114)

Approximate total /w tax & shipping: $2249 (also just a bit above your top end budget

Thanks a lot for the detailed information. Much appreciated.
I've made some adjustments to my build, which I think should be better than the previous ones.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (€417.89 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€199.85 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€117.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€103.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (€876.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€147.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2062.67

I've already surpassed my top price twice, so anything above might be too much.

 

[imsurgical]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($409.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK500 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1182.58 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2224.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 04:28 EDT-0400

This is a step up in Performance for same price.

All High Quality Components.

Don't think any of that includes tax. Which is huge once you reach values of a build that the OP has in mind.

 

[imsurgical]

Don't think any of that includes tax. Which is huge once you reach values of a build that the OP has in mind.

Imagine if that did include tax though? Sheeeesh 😵.