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I am looking to build a cheap second PC. i will be using Australian currency. This is a budget build.

Cannot decide whether it is better to get a Ryzen 5600G vs Ryzen Ryzen 7600


Ryzen 5600G = $189



Ryzen 7600 = $339


Ryzen 7600X = $389 (Extremely similar - Only things i notice is NO cooler included + 0.2 ghz base / boost) - For approximately $50 (Australian) extra. buying


Including cooler for 7600X will make it approx $100 cost extra. Maybe more?


Also, for both 7000 series will be paired with $30 more expensive motherboard.

A620M Basic motherboard = $132



For the 5600G the motherboard will be either


MSI PRO B550M-P GEN3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard = $129



MSI B450M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard = $109




I chose both since both do NOT require a BIOS update. Difference of $20. Is there a significant difference between getting a B450 and a B550 for a 5000 series CPU?



SSD = Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB



Case = Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case



Power Supply



Final notes. With the Ryzen 5600G and the B550 motherboard and other components the total is %566 AUD. I was hoping it would be closer to $500 AUD. Any suggestions? I can lower the total price by $20 by switching to the B450 motherboard. But not sure if there is a significant difference between the B450 and B550.



EDIT: I think i accidentally misclicked when i clicked on the create post button. Since it apepars this post is in the graphics card section? How do i change this?

Also, i accidentally forgot to add RAM.


G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory = $45


Also, i figured since it was a Budget PC to be used as a backup PC, i did NOT need 1 terabyte of SSD space. Therefore, i am considering this SSD.


TEAMGROUP MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive = $33

Sacrificing 500 gigs to save approximately $70 i feel so sad now.


Side note - Going with the cheapest CPU, cheapest motherboard, and 500 gig SSD, the price is $505. Not sure how i could lower that any more. Maybe by getting a cheaper PC case or cheaper Power Supply (PSU)?



EDIT 2: After checking the different cheapest Power Supply Units, i figured i could get a cheaper one. I could save approximately $20. Is it worth getting a PUS with a lower wattage jsut to save apporiximately $20 or less? Remember this is in Australian currency. *So basically reduce the price by approximately 20%-25% to get American currency).
 
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That_Tech_Guy_Again said:
I am looking to build a cheap second PC. i will be using Australian currency. This is a budget build.

Cannot decide whether it is better to get a Ryzen 5600G vs Ryzen Ryzen 7600


Ryzen 5600G = $189



Ryzen 7600 = $339


Ryzen 7600X = $389 (Extremely similar - Only things i notice is NO cooler included + 0.2 ghz base / boost) - For approximately $50 (Australian) extra. buying


Including cooler for 7600X will make it approx $100 cost extra. Maybe more?


Also, for both 7000 series will be paired with $30 more expensive motherboard.

A620M Basic motherboard = $132



For the 5600G the motherboard will be either


MSI PRO B550M-P GEN3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard = $129



MSI B450M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard = $109




I chose both since both do NOT require a BIOS update. Difference of $20. Is there a significant difference between getting a B450 and a B550 for a 5000 series CPU?



SSD = Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB



Case = Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case



Power Supply



Final notes. With the Ryzen 5600G and the B550 motherboard and other components the total is %566 AUD. I was hoping it would be closer to $500 AUD. Any suggestions? I can lower the total price by $20 by switching to the B450 motherboard. But not sure if there is a significant difference between the B450 and B550.
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Sounds like you are not planning for a dedicated GPU so 5600G is better with graphics.
B550 MB would be preferable to make full use of Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB and eventual dedicated GPU because of PCIe gen 4.
Although 7600x is more powerful CPU it has just basic graphics you also plan an A620 MB that is also very basic for it's price.
I don't see you mention RAM, DDR5 is quite more expensive and doesn't contribute much to overall performance but is required for Ryzen 7000 series.
In this case, only advantage with Ryzen 7600(x) is being new platform you can upgrade easier in next 3-4 years of AM5 projected lifetime. AMD is relatively soon releasing 8000 series APU with much more powerful GPU for same socket so that could be some incentive for AM5 platform.
 
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Sounds like you are not planning for a dedicated GPU so 5600G is better with graphics.
B550 MB would be preferable to make full use of Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB and eventual dedicated GPU because of PCIe gen 4.
Although 7600x is more powerful CPU it has just basic graphics you also plan an A620 MB that is also very basic for it's price.
I don't see you mention RAM, DDR5 is quite more expensive and doesn't contribute much to overall performance but is required for Ryzen 7000 series.
In this case, only advantage with Ryzen 7600(x) is being new platform you can upgrade easier in next 3-4 years of AM5 projected lifetime. AMD is relatively soon releasing 8000 series APU with much more powerful GPU for same socket so that could be some incentive for AM5 platform.
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Sorry.I left out some details before and updated after discovering i left out the RAM. I am also UN-decided on a few of the components. Mostly the CPU and Motherboard. Though the update should make it clear, i will repeat it once again.

This is what i will PROBABLY go with.Though NOT exactly sure yet.

5600G (because evidence suggests that the Vega7graphics is better than the Radeon integrated graphics).


B450M-A PRO MAX Motherboard (Motherboard - single greatest point of failure - Cheapest = Easier to replace).


RAM (1 x 16 GB) DDR4 (It was the cheapest for 16 gigs).


SSD downgraded from 1 terabyte to 500 gigs (This reduced the total cost by approximately $70).



Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (Almost the cheapest case there is with buttons NOT facing the top of the computer case).



Gigabyte P-B 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (I have heard that one should NEVER cheap out on the Power Supply,since really cheap one's can apparently cause issues. Therefore, i went with this one).


Total cost for ALL these components is $505 Australian currency.


Do you see anything that could be improved upon? Also, thankyou for the help. :D



EDIT: I plan on building a NEW PC near the end of the year.THis budget PC is just for a secondary / backup PC.

Getting the 7000 series CPU would require DDR5? Not worth it for a budget PC. For the NEW PC i plan to build near the end of the eayr it would be worth it. Since i would be getting a 7900 XTX and a Ryzen 7and probably going for 64 gigs of RAM. However, for a budget PC such as ths,especially when factoring in replacement costs if 1 component of the budget PC gets broken somehow. It is NOT worth it. That is 1 of the reasons i was considering the A620 motherboard.Since it would cost MUCH LESS to replace if broken. Whereas, a B650 motherboard for the Ryzen 7000 series would cost AT LEAST double the cost of the A620 motherboard.

Also, i do NOT plan on upgrading this budget PC. It is going to be a backup PC. The new PC i plan to build after saving up near the end of the year, will probably cost me at least $4K (Mostly because of the absurd GPU prices). So you can think of the NEW PC near the end of the year as the upgrade.



EDIT 2: Also, the B450 motherboard selected does NOT require a BOIS update. Which is one of the reqasons why it was selected.
 
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That_Tech_Guy_Again said:
Lol. Sorry.I accidentally typed to fast and missed a few keys and accidentally submitted the reply before it was ready. You should RE-read the reply with the full details.
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That's DDR4 and works only with AM4 platform, AM5 needs DDR5 (roughly twice as expensive in any currency). DDR4 works roughly 50% faster if it's in pairs so 2x8GB would be more effective at probably same price,
AS far as that SSD goes you are unlikely to see any difference Vs. fastest one so that's OK too.
PSU ? Well, 650W is well over what 5600g system without dedicated GPU really needs, I'd estimate no more than 400W or less but having "reserve power" (+30-50%) has some benefits like better tolerance to power fluctuations, better stability and reliability, shouldn't really skimp on it.
 
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That's DDR4 and works only with AM4 platform, AM5 needs DDR5 (roughly twice as expensive in any currency). DDR4 works roughly 50% faster if it's in pairs so 2x8GB would be more effective at probably same price,
AS far as that SSD goes you are unlikely to see any difference Vs. fastest one so that's OK too.
PSU ? Well, 650W is well over what 5600g system without dedicated GPU really needs, I'd estimate no more than 400W or less but having "reserve power" (+30-50%) has some benefits like better tolerance to power fluctuations, better stability and reliability, shouldn't really skimp on it.
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""""DDR4 works roughly 50% faster if it's in pairs so 2x8GB would be more effective"""" - How? Why would that be the case? That literally does not make sense. Can you elaborate or give an example? Maybe a youtube video demonstrating the fact?
 
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That_Tech_Guy_Again said:
""""DDR4 works roughly 50% faster if it's in pairs so 2x8GB would be more effective"""" - How? Why would that be the case? That literally does not make sense. Can you elaborate or give an example? Maybe a youtube video demonstrating the fact?
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DDR works faster when running in a multi channel mode vs single channel. Short explanation is running in a multi channel mode increases bandwidth. There are a plethora of articles, benchmarks and videos available if you search dual channel vs single channel.
 
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