Question New PC Build Issues and concerns with NVME drives, RAM etc

[fogal]

So have just started a new PC build, looks awesome however have some issues and concerns with certain bits. Main build includes

CPU: 12900k
Motherboard: ROG Strix Z690F
RAM: 2 x 16GB Corsair Dominator 5600mhz
SSD: 4 x WD SN850 1TB Drives
GPU: 2080 (From old build)
PSU: Corsair RM1000X V2 RMx Series 1000 Watt Fully Modular Power Supply

Few other drives etc built into a lovely Lian Li 011d Evo with all the fans etc.... looks pimp.

Built the main boot drive onto a RAID 0 array on first 2 SN850's which was fine seems to run lovely however built a second array for programs and that is causing system hangs etc. Kinda copying files or deleting will hang maybe cause a explorer.exe crash etc. Event viewer shows this sort of thing:

1. The IO operation at logical block address 0x207ebe0 for Disk 3 (PDO name: \Device\00000056) was retried.
2. Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort2, was issued.

Device seems to be hanging and throwing warning 1 and then kick back into action at warning 2 for a few seconds following the reset it seems. Tried it without raid for a bit with 2 seperate drives and think 1 seemed ok but other threw similar issues. These are brand new drives so not sure anything is wrong but wondering what your next steps may be.

Feel issues could be with drives / mobo / PSU / cpu etc so not sure who to blame if anyone as may just need to tweak something but not sure where to start.

Have had multiple issues however at first I had ram in slots 1/2 and was completely unstable, moved to 3/4 which was recomended in the manual and seemed stable. Cannot run Prime 95 overclock or not will just hang so am concerned there is something wrong with the build in some way.

Would greatly appreciate a little adivce if anyone has it.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

Built the main boot drive onto a RAID 0 array on first 2 SN850's which was fine seems to run lovely however built a second array for programs

why do you feel the need for any RAID setup at all?
do you really need 2TB just for the OS and 2TB just for programs?

a better solution would be 1TB for OS & applications, 1TB for games, 1TB for storage, and 1TB for backup.

if either of the drives continues to show errors then scan with Crystal Disk or other disk control utilities and see what they report.
may be a failing or malfunctioned drive that needs replacement.

Cannot run Prime 95 overclock or not will just hang so am concerned there is something wrong with the build in some way.

have you updated the BIOS and installed all of the latest system drivers directly from ASUS?

i would try resetting BIOS' optimized defaults, enabling XMP, and run Prime95 again.
if still freezing or showing signs of instability run a few rounds of MemTest86 and see if the RAM is showing any issues.

what temperatures is your CPU reaching when idle and when running Prime95?

 

[fogal]

why do you feel the need for any RAID setup at all?
do you really need 2TB just for the OS and 2TB just for programs?

a better solution would be 1TB for OS & applications, 1TB for games, 1TB for storage, and 1TB for backup.

if either of the drives continues to show errors then scan with Crystal Disk or other disk control utilities and see what they report.
may be a failing or malfunctioned drive that needs replacement.

have you updated the BIOS and installed all of the latest system drivers directly from ASUS?

i would try resetting BIOS' optimized defaults, enabling XMP, and run Prime95 again.
if still freezing or showing signs of instability run a few rounds of MemTest86 and see if the RAM is showing any issues.

what temperatures is your CPU reaching when idle and when running Prime95?

Yea to be honest the raids were just for fun really wanted to see what a bench would look like and to have bigger volumes.

Not massively arsed about backup or storage as that is handled elsewhere just wanted space for programs, games and VMs. May go back and do what you said but seems the issue is there raid 0 or not for now. Not tried turning off raid entirely as kept the primary array as seems fine and weren't feeling a reinstall.

Have reset bios a lot seems mostly ok until I added the extra drives. Tried the two xmp profiles etc. Problems seemed to stop mostly since I put ram in other slots. Am tempted to buy another 2 sticks to wack in the other slots and test it more but worried I'm just adding more points of failure.

Bios is latest, latest drivers etc installed using armoury crate but could try checking website for later drivers.

Temps are pretty decent, I mean about 27-35 but thing can really go hard in stress test drawing 200 watt and hitting 85 to 90. I have a Galahad aio 360 but it just about keeps it under control. That power draw did concern me and have undervolted slightly at possible at points to bring power draw and temps down which did seem to help but have undone that now whilst having these issues.

Forgot to mention have noticed a few things hanging like usb keyboard just flicking out and although dings back still unresponsive until unplugging and plugging back in so just feel something is a foot here.

Thanks for the advice, with double check the RAM with memtest again maybe do a few more laps and check crystal disk etc as not checked that yet.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

tempted to buy another 2 sticks to wack in the other slots and test it more but worried I'm just adding more points of failure.

if you were going to go this route you should return the original set and buy a quad package.

there is never any guarantee that different sets of RAM, even the same make & model running at the same speeds & timings, will work together.
and even if they do "work" there still may be small inaccuracies with data processed or other issues that may cause some loss in system performance.

there really is no benefit from 64GB vs 32GB though with gaming or any basic Windows tasks.

latest drivers etc installed using armoury crate but could try checking website for later drivers.

yeah, i've got two ASUS boards in the house and Armoury Crate has always been behind on available driver packages.
they may keep it more up to date with newer gen boards but usually at least a couple updates behind for my Z370 & Z590.

 

[fogal]

if you were going to go this route you should return the original set and buy a quad package.

there is never any guarantee that different sets of RAM, even the same make & model running at the same speeds & timings, will work together.
and even if they do "work" there still may be small inaccuracies with data processed or other issues that may cause some loss in system performance.

there really is no benefit from 64GB vs 32GB though with gaming or any basic Windows tasks.

yeah, i've got two ASUS boards in the house and Armoury Crate has always been behind on available driver packages.
they may keep it more up to date with newer gen boards but usually at least a couple updates behind for my Z370 & Z590.

Nice one yea have read that about the RAM, just spent a while playing again just set the bios to normal rather than optimised defaults and updated firmware on the drives. No luck however still, noticing cpu throttling warnings in the windows event viewer on closer inspection now. Gonna rip out the one drive I think and test the good one in other slot i think see how that goes.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

No luck however still, noticing cpu throttling warnings in the windows event viewer

that's odd if you're staying below 90°C.
check which temperature are you actually viewing; individual cores, Core average, Core Package, etc?

 

[fogal]

that's odd if you're staying below 90°C.
check which temperature are you actually viewing; individual cores, Core average, Core Package, etc?

Was looking at cores in coretemp seemed to be roughly speaking about 80 to be honest in cinebench just running it now... 62 - 80 degrees but am not overclocked at present as kinda reset. Just did a blue screen with clock watchdog timeout while only hitting those temps drawing about 170 watt.

Just had a thought... during building I added extension cables to to psu power leads as wanted it to look pretty. The main mobo one in particular I remember being a bit of a squeeze to push together so am wondering if 1 or 2 of them are not contacting right and that is causing jip. Only one way to find out I suppose but imagine this could possibly be a reason why I'm getting this behaviours.

 

[fogal]

Right thought it was OK for a min after removing extension cable however seems to crash again. Random worked solid 3.6GB transfer between the 2 so seemed fine but little slow. Next reboot changed XMP I from optimised defaults and it started crashing again. Rebooted again removed XMP profile and still crashes. So something still fishy here.

 

[fogal]

that's odd if you're staying below 90°C.
check which temperature are you actually viewing; individual cores, Core average, Core Package, etc?

Think It is running OK now, just thought i would leave my experience if it helps others as some these threads just get left without solution. For me I think i had multiple issues... one i think the cable extender was an issue causing USB disconnects, general instability, blue screens etc. Next thing i did was just swap the m.2 around just to see if the same one was an issue in another slow and see if MB was the issue. So feel it was a 2 stage issue not related however had tried re-seating the m.2 drives swapping them has seemed to help so not convinced but will just leave be for now.

I looked over the CPU throttle thing and as it was the only last 8 cores flagged in event viewer (everytime) I imagine that windows 11 is not detecting this new big little structure properly on this 12900k and is assuming that the cores are a lower frequency than the others as it is being throttled rather than they just clock that way anyway. My benchmarks seem decent in general so fine there however my actual file transfers seem to max at 4GB between drives (albeit with no stalling now). Was really hoping for over 7GB and over in raid or not but is much better for now.