Build Advice New PC Build time! Looking for suggestions / advice. AMD 3900x - Nvidia 2080TI

[TheOwnKnown3]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gq9VJ8
Current build;
CPU; AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor
GPU: Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card
PSU: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Display: 1920x1080 144hz


MOBO: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

[I've heard X470's are compatible with Zen2 "with a bios update" please confirm? I do have older CPU's I can throw it to bust an update out.]

On the topic of Mobo's and the 3900x. I've heard that the x570's are overkill and overpriced, leaving headroom for the 16core coming out
Is even the X470 a little too much? Note; I do see Dual SLI GPU's being a possible future. Although its far off enough that I might have a new board by then anyways.


RAM: 3900x's sweet spot is 3600hz I believe? Although I've heard talk of 3200hz being better price to performance wise.
I'm deciding between these two; Gskill 3600 - Gskill 3200
Any other RAM suggestions would be awesome! I'm not loyal to Gskill they just looked like good options.

OS: Windows 10 64b

Peripherals and storage are already bought.

A case to fit everything, and aftermarket cooling are where I'm kinda lost at the moment..
2000$ was pretty much my budget and pretty much where I'm at so I'm not looking to go too crazy on either of those.
Budget options would be appreciated.

This station will mostly be used for gaming, putting on my big boy pants for VR and Raytracing.
I do some rendering too though, albeit not that often, I like muh fast renders.
Thanks for any advice guys, good or bad

 

[samjacobson13]

My only concern is this: if you can afford a 2080ti and a 3900x, why limit yourself to 1080p? These parts will be able to handle at least 1440p if not 4k EXTREMELY well. From what I've seen, the x470 should be your best bet to try to 'future proof' your build. Like I said, if you can afford those cpu and gpu, dont skimp out on the rest of the build.

 

[geofelt]

Some thoughts:

If your primary use is for gaming, then the RTX2080ti is indeed the best you can buy today.
As to the processor, the ryzen 3000 reviews I have read seem to be a bit of a disappointment.
It seems that for gaming, the better clock rate of the i7-9700K or i9-9900K is better for gaming.
At the $350 price point for a processor, you will be doing very well regardless.
I think I might today still opt for the 9900K.
The ryzen 3000 processors are going to be in demand for new adopters.
Also, I think for the 3000 series, one should opt for a X570 based motherboard.
And, any new motherboard is liable to have issues needing bios updates.
If you actually can use 24 threads, by all means look at the 3900X.
But for just games the 8 cores of a 9700K is plenty.

I would not plan on dual gpu,
Such setups score very well in synthetic fps benchmarks, but your gaming experience will be better with a single good card.
Dual gpu is prone to stuttering, screen tearing and non support in an increasing number of games.
Over time, we should see even stronger cards than the rtx2080ti.
To plan for sli RTX2080ti, you should up the psu to more like 900w.

You are looking at a ATX sized motherboard so your case must be able to handle that.
In a case with good airflow, I like air much better than AIO.
A cooler like the noctua NH-D15/s in such a case is fully the equivalent of an aio with a 240/280 radiator.
Plus, a D15 is cheaper, more reliable, quieter, needs no maintenance and... will not leak.
You will need a case with 160mm headroom for a D15s or 165mm for a D15.
Look for a case with looks YOU love. It will be with you for a very long time.
Bust your budget if you need to for a great case.
I like cases with good front intakes that are filtered. Preferably 2/3 120/140mm front intakes.
Exhaust takes care of itself. Such a setup where all the air intakes is from one source and is filtered will keep your parts cleaner.

 

[C0v3r]

Actually I would say if u only want 1080p to get an rx 5700. If u want to get a 2080ti try to get a 4k monitor and if u don't like 60hz then get a 1440p 144hz monitor and I think a 2080 would do that fine but if u do want to eventually do 4k then yeah do a 2080ti cuz that will be a beast.

 

[TheOwnKnown3]

The GPU is definitely overkill as some of you have stated for 1080p 144hz, the overhead is for VR, and I will be upgrading my display [eventually]. Waiting for the display market to develop a little as I'm satisfied with my current resolution.

CPU wise I was going for the x3900 over intels 9900 because it's a 15$ price difference, although the 9900 can reach higher overclock speeds and the 8 cores are enough for pretty much every game, having 24 threads for rendering is just too juicy for comparable performance.
@geofelt , Thanks for the suggestions on cooling. I'll definitely be considering the d15, and good point on the PSU. . . I might just push that up a little farther to make some room for upgrades.

Anybody have thoughts on ram with paired with the x3900 (or i9 9900 I'm still open ;] )

 

[C0v3r]

Go with the 3900x it's a really good chip try to pair it with an x570 and at least 3600mhz ram as that is what I'd reccomended

 

[TheOwnKnown3]

I've heard performance on the x470 vs x570 is very similar on the 3900x, and that opting for the expensive x570 is only worth it if you really want the PCIE 4 lanes, or need it for the 3950x coming out later. To\ be honest, this is the hardest decision for me as motherboards are my weak point.

Is it really worth the price?

 

[C0v3r]

Well seeing as you can get one for 169 or a better one for 189 I say yes you first need the higher ram speed and second it has pcie4.0 which will help with workstation tasks and future proofing ur machine.

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