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WillJohnsXD

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Hi,

I am soon going to be starting building my first PC and have got together a components list. My friend (who has built PCs before) has helped me up to this point but I just wanted some other opinions on it.

So here goes.
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 with 5 extra Fractal 140mm fans
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked ACX 3GB
CPU: I5 4670k 3.4Ghz (not planning on OC as don't want to over-complicate anything)
MoBo: Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mark 2
PSU: Corsair CX750M
Memory: 8GB Corsair Vengeance pro series red DDR3
SSD: 120GB Kingston Now V300
HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda
CPU Cooler: Bequiet Shadow Rock 2
Optical Drive: 24x DVD Drive

As you can probably tell, I have a very basic knowledge of how to build a computer, I don't know the technical reasons for anything, I just know what goes where. I did ask this question on a YouTube video but I didn't get a reply so I came here hoping for some help.
This is my first post and remember I'm a 'newb' at computer building, so please don't be too harsh.

Thanks

 
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Yeah, here, the 4690k seems to be around £30/$52 more than the 4670k, which doesn't seem like a lot, but the price of the entire rig slowly creeps up with these small price increases. So, if I went with an RM650, do you think that would be adequate for this setup?
 

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No doubt even with overclocking.

 

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Ok, so does this sound OK to you?

Case: Fractal Design Define R4 with 5 extra Fractal 140mm fans
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked ACX 3GB
CPU: I5 4670k 3.4Ghz
MoBo: Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mark 2
PSU: Corsair RM650
Memory: 8GB Corsair Vengeance pro series red DDR3
SSD: 120GB Kingston Now V300
HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda
CPU Cooler: Bequiet Shadow Rock 2
Optical Drive: 24x DVD Drive

That would cost me 2176 USD, but that includes a Monitor, a Mouse and Keyboard and a Speaker System.

Just one more quick question, would I be OK with 7 140mm case fans and a decent air cooler if I did want to overclock my I5 in the future or would I be better off with an H80 or some other water-cooling system?
 

Steel_Nugget

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Looks great. Air should be enough until you do a huge OC. So how much do you plan to OC? This is where Haswell Refresh did better with Temps BTW.

 
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you mean the OC3D/TTLs video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiN9aVOv4A
it was a corsair rm450

 

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I don't think I would ever want to really push a CPU to its very limits, so maybe around the 4.0Ghz mark, but that would be at least a few months down the line.
Anyway, thanks for your help buddy, and everyone else who contributed :) Good day.
 

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hate being late to the party but heres a very cost effective build, and is under you budget of 1270 euros.

features:
unlocked cpu and z97 mobo, cooler for light overclocks
256gb ssd and 1tb of storage
780ti, will max everything out at 1080p
define r4 case like you wanted (i have it too its awesome btw) but you dont need all the fans, 1 intake and 1 exhaust is all you really need
850w gold, fully modular xfx psu built by seasonic, which is one of the, if not the, best of psu brands. sli capable in the future

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£200.37 @ PC World Business)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£119.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£59.60 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£77.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.70 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£491.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£112.74 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£9.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1219.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

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Thanks for that mate, I will definitely look into that build as well! The 780 Ti does look tempting. The only problem with that is that (I'm sorry I forgot to mention this) the budget also has to include a Monitor, a Mouse and Keyboard and a Speaker System, so including those, it would be around 200 pounds over budget. I will definitely bear this in mind though as I plan to buy my components around Christmas time, so hopefully, there will be some sizable discounts.

It's also interesting that you say about the R4 not needing all those fans, as if I were to not purchase 5 extra 140mm fans, it would free up some money that I could use to buy a 4690k, but I'll have to wait and see.
 


But don;t get the windforce, it's probably the most unreliable 780 ti there is
 

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I think a 780 Ti is simply out of my budget (unless there is a huge sale somewhere), but which Ti would you recommend if you had to recommend one?
 


A EVGA superclocked w/ACX cooler, same price as a gigabyte windforce but is more reliable, and has warranty :) It's sometimes on sale for like 480 ish pounds? Also, have you considered the Lightning 780? It's like one of the best 780's out there
 

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the windforce cooler is one of the best designs, and gigabyte is a reliable company that doesnt sell products of low quality when the hardware itself is expensive. its also one of the highest clocked, lowest priced 780ti's right now.

anyway, evga has some really good 780tis, along with msi and asus.

@op, do you know what monitor, speaker system, mouse and keyboard you're getting? im not sure if it was mentioned earlier or not but if you do can you post what they are and their prices? or ideas of what you're looking to get?
 

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I will definitely look into a Lightning 780. I was looking at the Evga Gtx 780 Ti Superclocked w/ACX cooler, but not as a prospective buyer, more in a dreaming sense, there's no way I could ever afford such a card lol. At this moment, the Standard Evga Gtx 780 superclocked w/ACX does seem like my best bet.
 

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The EVGA GTX 780 Ti has the OC world record so I bet it is the most reliable.

 

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the evga w/acx cooler is 30 punds more expensive then the windforce, i dont think the lightning is available there, it isnt appearing on pcpartpicker. the gigabyte card also has a 3 year warranty, so it does have one
 


I believe the Evga kingpin ahs it at 2.0Ghz but yeah, look into the lightning, probably best 780 out there :)
 

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That is the 'Kingpin' model, but even so, I don't think I can afford a Ti either way.
 
Here's another build for you to consider. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/wXKxRB I didn't include an operating system, so you'll have to purchase one unless you already have that covered.

The larger PSU will give you some headroom if you ever decided to overclock in the future. The 16GB of RAM may possibly be more than you'd need, but if you ever decided to edit some photos or videos, or use any other RAM hogging software, it would benefit you. If you do not think you'll need 16GB of RAM, simply go with 8GB.

The 250GB EVO SSD would give you plenty of storage space for a good many games.

I picked the Phanteks Enthoo Pro case, as it would be a great case for air or water cooling. Plus, I just got this case myself and love it! It's an awesome case for the money!

Just wanted to give you another build to consider. Good luck with what ever you decide on and have fun with your new system. Be sure to update us after you've completed your build.
 

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@op, so any thoughts on monitors/peripherals/speakers? if you don't have any ideas, how much would you like to spend on speakers? mouse/keyboard? a monitor is easier to work into the budget on pcpartpicker (it has lots of monitors on the website)
 



type in on google ' gigabyte 780 ti windforce ghz edition problems' , i dare you :)
 

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heres another build, this one is with the 290x. it sits between the 780 and 780ti, but not as expensive. the downsides are heat (the tri-x cooler is very good though, so heat is no longer a worry) and power consumption. has a 1080p monitor, with an ips panel (colors look alot better), and leaves you about 60 euros for mouse/keyboard/speakers. not sure if 60 is enough but its a start

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£200.37 @ PC World Business)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£119.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£59.60 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£77.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.70 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card (£398.75 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£112.74 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£9.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Monitor: LG 24MP55HQ-P 60Hz 23.8" Monitor (£119.99 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1246.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

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Thanks for the extra build to consider. Man, that PSU is expensive!! I'm sure it's worth it though, as for the RAM, I've been editing 24Mp RAW files on a computer with a single Gig of RAM for years, so 8Gb would be an upgrade either way lol. I was actually planning on getting the Enthoo Pro for quite a while, but have decided on the R4 simply because I love the idea of having a beastly PC in such an understated case.

Thanks for the good luck, I will definitely update yous when I have finished my build and hey, even if I do screw something up in the building process, ScanSure from Scan.co.uk will replace as many parts as I can break for free (after an initial £35), so that's good for peace of mind, as I was finding the whole idea of building a PC out of such expensive and delicate parts quite daunting.

Thanks again guys for the help, you've been very helpful.
I'm going to go to bed now :)

 

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Thanks for that, I will also consider this build, I've got a few months before I buy my parts, so that gives me long enough to decide :) As for the M+K/Speakers/Monitors, I need about 150 pounds, so they're not too expensive.