New pc newbie need input

morphinebaby

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I figured it might finally be time to move on to bigger and better things from my old setup.

This will be my first time building a pc from scratch and I'm not sure what to choose when it comes to a few items... Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome. Here's what I'm thinking so far;



I made a few edits to your line up but overall I liked your suggestions and it was very helpful.

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB $109 after -10$ newegg
OCZ Platinum 1600 6gb $109 after rebate
GTX 295
i7 920 $229.99 from micro center
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V got for 88$ (i liked the black a little better i would have picked corsair but i think i didn't like their rebate or something)
P6T Deluxe V2


 

xthekidx

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Yikes you need some work here, you are overspending in some areas and skimping too much in others. First off, what is your budget for this build? We need to know how much you can spend. Then what resolution is your monitor? This has a large effect on the GPU you need. Thirdly, what are your primary uses, from most important to least. This advice is only worth so much without knowing that other information.

Ok so as far as components go, look at this for CPU/mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131362

For your GPU, I'd go with this, but it may be totally overkill depending on the monitor you will use and you may be able to save a lot of $$ here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768

Take a look at the CM sniper case too, its very nice and pretty quiet. Those cases you have there are very nice as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119194

Get these ram modules, lower voltages are much better and timings:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209

The TRUE is an excellent cooler, probably the best out there, I don't recommend the others, the price isn't justified by performance. Other good options are V8, Xigmatek S1283v dark knight.

Don't get either of those PSU's, not good quality. The PSU is not an area to go cheap. Look at this one, very good quality and reasonable price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011
 

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My budget would be around 2,000. Right now I have my computer hooked up to my samsung 40" 1080p tv. For primary uses I want it to be able to handle demanding gaming quite well and to last me for the next couple years. I’d also be using it for music/movies, firefox/opera, and running photo and dvd creating apps. I usually do a lot of multi tasking between apps and was hoping to eventually install windows 7. I picked the ultra because I like modular cables and the other psu based on power efficiency not so much price. I've been reading that the corsairs are really good psu's and that they do have a modular version (1000hx) but it's 1000W, wouldn't that be overkill as a potential? I'm not dead set on it just curious.
 

xthekidx

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Do you have an AMD brand preference? Because for $2k budget you should really be looking at an intel i7 build, especially since you will be doing dvd and video creation/editing. The i7 smacks the PII 940 around something fierce when it comes to those tasks. Here is my proposal for you:
Case-Haf 932:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Mobo-P6T Deluxe V2:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131365

GPU-GTX 295:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130453

CPU-i7 920:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

PSU-now this one is tricky...do you really want modular? If you want the case to look tidy, then you can just use zip ties and tie up your cables, its what I do. Otherwise you have to pay a large premium for modular PSU's. Modular PSU's also tend to have more problems than non-modular PSU's. If you really want Modular:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151031

Ram-OCZ Platinum 1600 6gb:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381

HDD-WD Caviar Black 1TB (x2):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

Vista:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

CPU Cooler- CoolerMaster V8 will go nicely with that case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103055
and use this thermal interface material:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020

So that should be under your budget in the $2000 range and will handle all your uses very well. You can drop one of the 1TB Drives if you don't think you will need it, but videos tend to take up a lot of room. That will put you below $1900. Shop around though at microcenter.com and ncixus.com too for components, sometimes you can save a lot. Microcenter has good deals on cases, usually better than newegg.
 

morphinebaby

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Sorry it took so long to respond but I've been really busy with work and researching. I really appreciate the help. I still have a few more questions. I updated the original post to reflect what i'm currently looking at. I've only purchased the power supply and 295 so far but plan on buying the majority of the rest tonight. Anyway, my questions are;

Is there much difference between the Rampage II, deluxe v2 and the P6T6 revolution as far as the capability of the mobo? I know the rev doesn't have ide and has more pcix16 but i mean bios wise i guess. I've seen a lot of people who overclocked seem to have the revolution.

I looked at the v8 but I've seen mixed reviews saying the thermalright true is the best but frostytech shows the Thermolab BARAM as having the best results and both outdo the v8. I haven't seen anything that compares both in push-pull though. Any opinions?
 

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You have a $2000 budget but do you need to spend all of it? You've already purchased a PSU and GPU right? Tom's Hardware stated in their best GPU for the money, given todays games that spending more than $300 on a videocard is only going to good for benchmarks.

If I were you I wouldn't necessairly gun to speed the whole $2K right away. This may be too late if you can't change your order on the GPU, but the 2GB 4850x2 is the best GPU for 1080p gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102809

I can't think of a game until ID's Rage that may even stress a 4850x2 with an i7. Even then with who knows, your 4850x2 might handle ID's Rage. With the motherboard you picked you could crossfire the 4850x2 when the time comes you need more CPU power.

If you want a gaming system to last you a couple of years, spend your entire budget now will give you less performance over the life of your budget then if you trickle the money out over time. I mean, whatever you save now can be put towards parts in the future that will give you greater return than overkill now.

Now, don't get me wrong, if I had a $2000 budget, I would spare no expense on the PSU (I'm a big fan of quite, modular and energy efficent like the Enermax Modu82+ and Revo85+ series), case like the Cosmos 1000, keyboard/mouse, speakers (nice set of THX certified surround speakers) and display (I spent a huge part of my budget on a 52" 1080P HDTV since it something I don't expect to replace for about 10 years). These are all components that will last 5-10 years. Where the turn around time on CPU/RAM/MoBo/GPU is like 2 years for the highest end stuff before they look like budget parts that come in bigbox retail computers.
 

morphinebaby

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yeah i already have the gpu. I got a better deal then at newegg but its still quite a bit.

I do like the look of the cosmos line also but i'm going with the stacker. I was going to get the SAMSUNG T220HD. My 6yr old planar died so been using the 40" tv i bought '07 and its a pain in the neck sitting so close to a huge tv just to type. I liked that it had a tv tuner since I'll be gaming on my ps3/watching tv and surfing the net at the same time. I don't really need surround sound or crazy speakers since i have such small living quarters at the moment.