New poor-gamer rig

[VenomzZ]

Hello again guys!
So I was planning to build the best value gaming rig I can get and I made up this list of components.

I wanted to know if there are any incompatibilities or some other items I can swap:

CPU:AMD Athlon II X4 750k
Motherboard:MSI Z87-G45 GAMING
GPU:Radeon 7770
PSU:http://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B005FW1ZD4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1399456526&sr=8-3
Case:http://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B0060AB09Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1399457234&sr=8-1
Other missing parts:I'll just recycle what I find on some friends pcs lol

Thanks for your help folks!

 

[pm4]

Your parts are not compatible. You got Z87 which is intel board for socket LG1150 and you got cpu from AMD which is for socket FM2. So you need to find different motherboard or get different CPU.

Also when salvaging older pats from different PC be careful about stuff like IDE vs SATA cables on HDD and ODD. Also make sure PSU is up to challenge and that ram you use is compatible speed and DDR type is same as use motherboard (with new board that would be DDR3)

 

[Rationale]

That power supply is truly awful. Avoid it.
http://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B009D7CSPG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1399459133&sr=8-1

That motherboard is a much more expensive model than it really needs to be. Also, it's not compatible with the CPU you've chosen.
http://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B00G6NNR5A/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1399459229&sr=8-7

 

[pm4]

In your case i would go with i3 for example 4330 that have only 2 cores but hyper threading making it effective 4 core like that atlon. It's more expensive I think about 50 more usd but you can save money on motherboard which as was mentioned is too high. Get some lower tier like H87 ant that will give you that 50 usd difference back. So going i3 + h87 will be same price and will be compatible.

EDIT you can go even lower on motherboad if it will have all features you want and save money to get that better psu.
Not sure how are your local prices but it should be +- same with euro prices.

 

[photonboy]

If you want better help:
a) Provide a TOTAL BUDGET, and
b) Give us a link or links to online stores you purchase from.

I'll make a budget build using pcpartpicker (USA site) so you can look at it.

Example build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Fuu7

Video card benchmark: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/25.html

*The Asus GTX750Ti is one of the best values right now, but I don't know if it's priced comparably where you live. It can also overclock more than this video but even if we ignore that the HD7770 is only 64% as good as this card.

Windows 8.1 64-bit:
*Get START8 if you get Windows 8.1 to avoid the new desktop and add back the Start Menu.
Better than Windows 7 and future games/programs will require it for full functionality.

Compatibility/other:
- avoid APU's
- 8GB DDR3 recommended (2x4GB)
- 760K instead of 750K (if price difference minor)
- ensure motherboard and CPU are compatible (760K is FM2+ socket)
- ensure Power Supply is compatible (in general should have the required PCIe x6 and x8-pin connectors. The VP-450 has 1x6-pin for the graphics card which is fine with this setup).
- the case and motherboard I chose are both micro-ATX (larger ATX case supports micro-ATX motherboards but a micro-ATX case does not support an ATX motherboard).
- 1TB WD Blue is probably the best hard drive but again I don't know your pricing.

 

[VenomzZ]

Thanks guys for the answers so taking into consideration the low low budget avaliable and the incompatibilities that i didn't even check (shame on me lol) I came up with this CPU mobo combo that probably socks but lemme know your opinion:
CPU:AMD FX 6350
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+

 

[photonboy]

Thanks guys for the answers so taking into consideration the low low budget avaliable and the incompatibilities that i didn't even check (shame on me lol) I came up with this CPU mobo combo that probably socks but lemme know your opinion:
CPU:AMD FX 6350
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+

It's not bad for a budget build, but if the price difference between this and the 760K setup allows the 760K setup to have a better video card then I'd go with the X4-760K.

Perhaps refer to my above build, see what it costs where you live so you can make budget decisions.

 

[VenomzZ]

Also I live in Italy so I'd rather purchase from Italian or even near European countries stores but mostly ordering everything with Amazon either UK or It would be amazing

 

[VenomzZ]

If you want better help:
a) Provide a TOTAL BUDGET, and
b) Give us a link or links to online stores you purchase from.

I'll make a budget build using pcpartpicker (USA site) so you can look at it.

Example build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Fuu7

Video card benchmark: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/25.html

*The Asus GTX750Ti is one of the best values right now, but I don't know if it's priced comparably where you live. It can also overclock more than this video but even if we ignore that the HD7770 is only 64% as good as this card.

Windows 8.1 64-bit:
*Get START8 if you get Windows 8.1 to avoid the new desktop and add back the Start Menu.
Better than Windows 7 and future games/programs will require it for full functionality.

Compatibility/other:
- avoid APU's
- 8GB DDR3 recommended (2x4GB)
- 760K instead of 750K (if price difference minor)
- ensure motherboard and CPU are compatible (760K is FM2+ socket)
- ensure Power Supply is compatible (in general should have the required PCIe x6 and x8-pin connectors. The VP-450 has 1x6-pin for the graphics card which is fine with this setup).
- the case and motherboard I chose are both micro-ATX (larger ATX case supports micro-ATX motherboards but a micro-ATX case does not support an ATX motherboard).
- 1TB WD Blue is probably the best hard drive but again I don't know your pricing.

Thanks guys for the answers so taking into consideration the low low budget avaliable and the incompatibilities that i didn't even check (shame on me lol) I came up with this CPU mobo combo that probably socks but lemme know your opinion:
CPU:AMD FX 6350
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+

It's not bad for a budget build, but if the price difference between this and the 760K setup allows the 760K setup to have a better video card then I'd go with the X4-760K.

Perhaps refer to my above build, see what it costs where you live so you can make budget decisions.

here what i came to man,i marked what i purchased or already have (got ram too,i'll upgrade that later on)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£63.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M Pro4+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£60.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (£115.55 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Aerocool StrikeX-GT Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.00)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For £0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £307.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-07 13:26 BST+0100)

 

[sora]

That PSU seems like it was created with poor capacitors. I suggest getting a 450W or 550W XFX or Seasonic power supply.

 

[Rationale]

That PSU seems like it was created with poor capacitors. I suggest getting a 450W or 550W XFX or Seasonic power supply.

His PSU isn't the best, but still good enough, especially considering his PC will only be drawing about 200-300w. Corsair doesn't make a "bad" PSU, the worst they get is "meh".

 

[VenomzZ]

hey guys! then why on earth am i going to buy a 450w one haha xD if my actual wattage will be about 200-300w wouldn't it be better a right wattage one? thanks for suggestions!

ps😡Rationale:i just noticed your avatar,nice one ahha xD
@sora:Epic signature man,respect!

 

[pm4]

With PSUs it's hard. 1st not all PSU for example for 400W PSU can deliver really 400 at 12v rail. Some deliver just portion of it and 12 is most used as it's for cpu and gpu. You may find out that from 400 is just 250 or so used and it may be too low. This heavily depend on what quality is PSU. Better brands have like 95-100% at 12V lower brands may be as low as 50-60%.

Also PSU is affected by aging. Meaning that over time W that PSU can provide will get lower. It also depends on usage of PSU and quality of parts but it happens to all PSU at some point and slowly degrade it. So after 3-4 y 400w may be able to deliver for example only 350.

Third thing why to have extra power are sudden peaks in power consumption. If you got GPU which is rated for example at 250W average consumption it can sometimes have peak which will take like 50 or even 100 more W. It's short peak but may be enough to overload PSU and shut down PC.

All this combined it's adviceable to have some extra W ready on PSU.

 

[VenomzZ]

With PSUs it's hard. 1st not all PSU for example for 400W PSU can deliver really 400 at 12v rail. Some deliver just portion of it and 12 is most used as it's for cpu and gpu. You may find out that from 400 is just 250 or so used and it may be too low. This heavily depend on what quality is PSU. Better brands have like 95-100% at 12V lower brands may be as low as 50-60%.

Also PSU is affected by aging. Meaning that over time W that PSU can provide will get lower. It also depends on usage of PSU and quality of parts but it happens to all PSU at some point and slowly degrade it. So after 3-4 y 400w may be able to deliver for example only 350.

Third thing why to have extra power are sudden peaks in power consumption. If you got GPU which is rated for example at 250W average consumption it can sometimes have peak which will take like 50 or even 100 more W. It's short peak but may be enough to overload PSU and shut down PC.

All this combined it's adviceable to have some extra W ready on PSU.

thanks man i noticed too that psus age too since i got one who is getting total crap day after day,thanks for the tip i'll stick with that cheap-but-still-450w corsair