Question New Ryzen 7 5700X3D Causes Infinite Boot Loop when Upgrading From Ryzen 7 3700X

[05envyy]

I recently bought the ryzen 7 5700x3d to upgrade my current ryzen 7 3700x. I have a rtx 2060, b450 tomahawk max, rm650 psu, and 16gb ddr4 ram 3200mhz (Corsair vengeance pro rgb 2x8gb).

When I first intially installed the new cpu, everything worked fine. Booted into the pc, ran stress tests and games with no issues, and both the BIOS and pc recognized the new 5700x3d.

I then restarted my PC, and ever since then, I have been stuck in a boot loop with this new CPU. I tried everything to fix it. Reseating pc parts, 1 ram stick, updating bios, resetting cmos, etc.

I then decided to put my old CPU in hopes that the issue was the CPU. After putting my old cpu in, everything worked as normal. Booted into PC.

I then clean installed windows 11 again just incase it was a windows issue. I reset CMOS too. I then put my new 5700x3d in to see if the issue still happens with all these fixes I did, and nothing worked. It still boot loops.

This boot loop makes it so that I can only enter BIOS with the new CPU in (BIOS does recognize the new CPU). However, once it tries booting into anything such as windows on my ssd or windows on a usb with the creation tool, it just restarts, making an endless cycle of restarting.

I have put the cpu in 3 times with various troubleshooting techniques, and each time the issue is still there. I have a strong feeling it is a faulty CPU.

I refunded the CPU and bought it again in hopes it being defective.

The most tricky part is that it first worked perfectly (ran stress tests and games) until I restarted my PC.

What do you guys think? What should I do to ensure that when I receive the CPU again, this issue won't happen?

 

[punkncat]

Assuming that no pins were damaged, and things such as turning off any overclocks such as XMP were done it could just have been a bad CPU.

 

[beyondlogic]

I recently bought the ryzen 7 5700x3d to upgrade my current ryzen 7 3700x. I have a rtx 2060, b450 tomahawk max, rm650 psu, and 16gb ddr4 ram 3200mhz (Corsair vengeance pro rgb 2x8gb).

When I first intially installed the new cpu, everything worked fine. Booted into the pc, ran stress tests and games with no issues, and both the BIOS and pc recognized the new 5700x3d.

I then restarted my PC, and ever since then, I have been stuck in a boot loop with this new CPU. I tried everything to fix it. Reseating pc parts, 1 ram stick, updating bios, resetting cmos, etc.

I then decided to put my old CPU in hopes that the issue was the CPU. After putting my old cpu in, everything worked as normal. Booted into PC.

I then clean installed windows 11 again just incase it was a windows issue. I reset CMOS too. I then put my new 5700x3d in to see if the issue still happens with all these fixes I did, and nothing worked. It still boot loops.

This boot loop makes it so that I can only enter BIOS with the new CPU in (BIOS does recognize the new CPU). However, once it tries booting into anything such as windows on my ssd or windows on a usb with the creation tool, it just restarts, making an endless cycle of restarting.

I have put the cpu in 3 times with various troubleshooting techniques, and each time the issue is still there. I have a strong feeling it is a faulty CPU.

I refunded the CPU and bought it again in hopes it being defective.

The most tricky part is that it first worked perfectly (ran stress tests and games) until I restarted my PC.

What do you guys think? What should I do to ensure that when I receive the CPU again, this issue won't happen?

could be overclocked ram not playing friendly make sure before you install new cpu that the bios is at default settings no overclocked ram. also these chips do run hotter then the ryzen 3700x

 

[05envyy]

Assuming that no pins were damaged, and things such as turning off any overclocks such as XMP were done it could just have been a bad CPU.

Yea thats what I am hoping for too since I returned the 5700x3d and got a new one. Hopefully it works when I get it.

 

[05envyy]

could be overclocked ram not playing friendly make sure before you install new cpu that the bios is at default settings no overclocked ram. also these chips do run hotter then the ryzen 3700x

As for the ram, I did try resetting cmos which disabled xmp with the new cpu in and it didn't fix my issue.

Also, for the heat, I had bought a new cpu cooler Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE because I heard that the stock amd cooler would not be the best for the 5700x3d. Besides the cpu cooler, my pc has good airflow and my room is a good cool temperature, so I dont think temps are an issue.

Do you think it can be a faulty cpu?

 

[QyInvoLing]

Do you have a friend to lend you another am4 cpu?

 

[beyondlogic]

As for the ram, I did try resetting cmos which disabled xmp with the new cpu in and it didn't fix my issue.

Also, for the heat, I had bought a new cpu cooler Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE because I heard that the stock amd cooler would not be the best for the 5700x3d. Besides the cpu cooler, my pc has good airflow and my room is a good cool temperature, so I dont think temps are an issue.

Do you think it can be a faulty cpu?

personally i dont think the assassin king 120 se would be strong enough 5700x3d thats a 125w heat load which is way more then a 5 heatpipe cooler can handle.

complete shot in the dark would be to try

to enable CMS (over UEFI) go to BIOS -> Advanced -> Windows OS Configuration -> Select BIOS CSM/UEFI Mode as "CSM"

other possibility

Is that theres a small charge of power in the motherboard that is causing boot looping you would have to remove the power cable from pc and hold the power button for 1 minute if it springs to life for a second then theres a bit of extra juice in the capacitors. if it doesnt dont worry it will still drain all the energy from the motherboard essentially draining all components of power.

then plug the pc back together and try booting

 

[ohio_buckeye]

If possible return the assassin king and get a peerless assassin or one of their phantom spirit coolers imo.

 

[Third-Eye]

personally i dont think the assassin king 120 se would be strong enough 5700x3d thats a 125w heat load which is way more then a 5 heatpipe cooler can handle.

Just a correction on this thought. A 120mm single tower cooler is enough to cool the 5700x3d, since it's a 65watt TDP CPU like the 5700x. The 5800x and 5800x3d are both 105watt and would also run "fine" on a single tower cooler, but are better off with a dual tower cooler or a 240-360mm AIO.

 

[beyondlogic]

Just a correction on this thought. A 120mm single tower cooler is enough to cool the 5700x3d, since it's a 65watt TDP CPU like the 5700x. The 5800x and 5800x3d are both 105watt and would also run "fine" on a single tower cooler, but are better off with a dual tower cooler or a 240-360mm AIO.

excuse me it is not its 105 tdp


https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/pre...s-next-gen-desktop-processors-for-extrem.html

i own the 5700x which draws roughly around 80 watts which i use a 120mm cpu cooler.

a 5900x which draws around 141 watts which the cpu cooler tower fell on its backside on a all core load. so thats under a aio

5700x3d draws around 120 watts 125 watts at a push when it spikes. i needed a 7 heatpipe cooler to handle it or a aio

 

[Third-Eye]

excuse me it is not its 105 tdp


https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/pre...s-next-gen-desktop-processors-for-extrem.html

i own the 5700x which draws roughly around 80 watts which i use a 120mm cpu cooler.

a 5900x which draws around 141 watts which the cpu cooler tower fell on its backside on a all core load. so thats under a aio

5700x3d draws around 120 watts 125 watts at a push when it spikes. i needed a 7 heatpipe cooler to handle it or a aio

I stand corrected on the 5700x3D, I've been using the wrong information apparently. I could have just googled it and not be wrong anymore. 🤣

From my own experience with a 5800x3D, I don't see more than 105watt power draw unless I'm benchmarking. Typical power draw, including regular usage, gaming and game benchmark usage, is rarely as high as non gaming benchmarking or high CPU usage work loads. The only game I've seen take more the my typical 65-85 watts and 65-75c temps when gaming, is Cyberpunk 2077 at up to 105 watt after the changes in v2.0 that increased usage. I also don't usually see higher than 83c on a 280mm AIO with reduced pump rpm and a fan curve for noise dampening.

I'm not trying to argue away your opinion, because it's generally better to steer people away from lower end cooling solutions when there are much better options for only a bit more money. I still think a 120mm tower will be "enough" for a 5700x3D, but there is really no reason to use or buy that when a dual 120mm tower cooler like the Peerless Assassin 120 series, is usually avaialble around $40 and performs roughly on par with a 240mm AIO, so we can probably both agree on that.

 

[beyondlogic]

I stand corrected on the 5700x3D, I've been using the wrong information apparently. I could have just googled it and not be wrong anymore. 🤣

From my own experience with a 5800x3D, I don't see more than 105watt power draw unless I'm benchmarking. Typical power draw, including regular usage, gaming and game benchmark usage, is rarely as high as non gaming benchmarking or high CPU usage work loads. The only game I've seen take more the my typical 65-85 watts and 65-75c temps when gaming, is Cyberpunk 2077 at up to 105 watt after the changes in v2.0 that increased usage. I also don't usually see higher than 83c on a 280mm AIO with reduced pump rpm and a fan curve for noise dampening.

I'm not trying to argue away your opinion, because it's generally better to steer people away from lower end cooling solutions when there are much better options for only a bit more money. I still think a 120mm tower will be "enough" for a 5700x3D, but there is really no reason to use or buy that when a dual 120mm tower cooler like the Peerless Assassin 120 series, is usually avaialble around $40 and performs roughly on par with a 240mm AIO, so we can probably both agree on that.

I can agree a good 120mm like peerless assassin 120 is fine if memory serves it's got 7 heat pipes the burst assassin might handle a 5700x3d but that's one I haven't done a test on it. Case airflow is very important to when it comes more to tower coolers.

I personally get alot of idiotic customers trying to run Ryzen 9s on like 3 heat pipe coolers lol from dark ages then they wonder why there system is fried or not working lol.

In fairness the tdp info loves to vanish of amds own website I had to dig for that URL.

 

[faalin]

have yo updated the BIOS to the latest version for the new CPU?

 

[Third-Eye]

I can agree a good 120mm like peerless assassin 120 is fine if memory serves it's got 7 heat pipes the burst assassin might handle a 5700x3d but that's one I haven't done a test on it. Case airflow is very important to when it comes more to tower coolers.

I personally get alot of idiotic customers trying to run Ryzen 9s on like 3 heat pipe coolers lol from dark ages then they wonder why there system is fried or not working lol.

In fairness the tdp info loves to vanish of amds own website I had to dig for that URL.

The Peerless Assassin 120 series is actually 6 heat pipes and the Phantom Spirit 120 series is a 7 pipe version that is actually $5-10 more at $45-50 and a little better performance. So that it's actually an even better cheap solution than the PA 120.

Then there is also the Frost Spirit 140mm dual tower with 4 heatpipes and the Frost Commander 5 pipe version, but they seem to be only slightly better or about the same as the Phantom Spirit 120 in cooling ability for a bit more cost.

The only problems I see with the cheap Thermalright coolers, is the cheaper versions have a plastic back plate mount instead of metal on the more expensive versions that may no longer be in production, and they don't have the best clearance for taller memory modules.

 

[beyondlogic]

The Peerless Assassin 120 series is actually 6 heat pipes and the Phantom Spirit 120 series is a 7 pipe version that is actually $5-10 more at $45-50 and a little better performance. So that it's actually an even better cheap solution than the PA 120.

Then there is also the Frost Spirit 140mm dual tower with 4 heatpipes and the Frost Commander 5 pipe version, but they seem to be only slightly better or about the same as the Phantom Spirit 120 in cooling ability for a bit more cost.

The only problems I see with the cheap Thermalright coolers, is the cheaper versions have a plastic back plate mount instead of metal on the more expensive versions that may no longer be in production, and they don't have the best clearance for taller memory modules.

Yeah that backplate is more for intel though and yeah I knew there was a 7 heat pipe one there's so many types hard to keep track.