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Case = CORSAIR - Graphite Series 780T Full-Tower PC Case - Black
MB = Gigabyte Z490 AORUS Master
RAM - Crucial Ballistx MAX RGB 4400 16GB
CPU - Intel i9-10900K
HDD - M2 SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB
CPU Cooler - CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX CPU Cooler - Black
PS - EVGA 1000W EPS 80 Plus Fully Modular (transferred from last build)
GPU - EVGA RTX 2080 Super (transferred from last build) - Waiting for the EVGA 3080 FTW and I will jump
Sound - Sound BlasterX AE-5 Pro Gaming (transferred from last build)
Speakers - Sound Blaster Z906 (transferred from last build)
Thermal Grizzley Kryonaut paste
 
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If you can afford an i9, get a Ryzen 9 5900x. It will perform way better when gaming, and it performs better if you are using it as a workstation. Either way it is a win. Also, AMD motherboards often cost less. Also, how much are you getting the 2080 Super for?
 

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I got the 2080 Super October, Last year. I paid $759 at the time. I should have put transferred from last build, I will edit the OP. Also I am waiting on the 3080s to become available again and I will get a FTW.
 
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Well, if you want to lose out on performance, than that is your loss, lol! Not to say that Intel is bad or anything, it still will be a great rig. I feel like the Ryzen would be better down the line for GPU upgradeability. But, now that I think about it, it wouldn't make much of a difference in your case, as you will be GPU limited long before you are CPU limited.
 

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Case = NZXT PHAN-002GR (transferred from my last build)
MB = Gigabyte Z490 AORUS Master
RAM - Crucial Ballistx MAX RGB 4400 16GB
CPU - Intel i9-10900
HDD - M2 SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB
CPU Cooler - Corsair Hydro H60
PS - EVGA 1000W EPS 80 Plus Fully Modular (transferred from last build)
GPU - EVGA RTX 2080 Super (transferred from last build) - Waiting for the EVGA 3080 FTW and I will jump
Sound - Sound BlasterX AE-5 Pro Gaming (transferred from last build)
Speakers - Sound Blaster Z906 (transferred from last build)
Thermal Grizzley Kryonaut paste
Your going to need a lot better cooler for that processor and their really no reason to buy 4400 memory just get 3600.
 
That AIO cooler for a 10900. Not good enough.

You're buying a 10900 (non K) with a Z motherboard. A cheaper board would do the same since you're not gonna overclock a non overclockable CPU.

Buy 3600MHz RAM at half the price and get 32GB of RAM for the same price as 16GB 4400MHz that gives you 2 more fps in games. Totally not worth it. Get more RAM instead. 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 RAM Kit.

If you want the best gaming CPU and the best workstation CPU at the moment you go for a Ryzen 5900X (If you can find one). Even if you are an intel guy you cannot deny the power of the Ryzen 5000 series. A 5600X 300 dollars CPU has the same FPS as the 10900K 549 dollars CPU in games. Zen 3 is def a better choice and it destroy Intel in workstation stuff. If you still want to go with Intel I still understand but that's just a name at this point.


Your build below.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900 2.8 GHz 10-Core Processor ($449.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 (2018) 57.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix MAX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory ($199.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: NZXT Phantom ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA G1+ 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus Sound Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $1249.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-04 10:17 EST-0500
 
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Your going to need a lot better cooler for that processor and their really no reason to buy 4400 memory just get 3600.
Got the memory on the cheap and for $199 and the CAS I could not pass it up :)

As for the cooler, my case will not support the 2 or 3 fan coolers and I do not want air. That said, I saw a few reviews that said the H60 will do fine.

If you have a recommendation I am all ears, but I need a case and AIO cooler, has to be in stock and needs to be in the $300 total range. I looked at the H500P mesh case, but putting a radiator in the top of that is not going to happen!
 

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Got the memory on the cheap and for $199 and the CAS I could not pass it up :)

As for the cooler, my case will not support the 2 or 3 fan coolers and I do not want air. That said, I saw a few reviews that said the H60 will do fine.

If you have a recommendation I am all ears, but I need a case and AIO cooler, has to be in stock and needs to be in the $300 total range. I looked at the H500P mesh case, but putting a radiator in the top of that is not going to happen!
Think what you wish the H60 is not going to cool that processor.
 

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That AIO cooler for a 10900. Not good enough.

You're buying a 10900 (non K) with a Z motherboard. A cheaper board would do the same since you're not gonna overclock a non overclockable CPU.

Buy 3600MHz RAM at half the price and get 32GB of RAM for the same price as 16GB 4400MHz that gives you 2 more fps in games. Totally not worth it. Get more RAM instead. 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 RAM Kit.

If you want the best gaming CPU and the best workstation CPU at the moment you go for a Ryzen 5900X (If you can find one). Even if you are an intel guy you cannot deny the power of the Ryzen 5000 series. A 5600X 300 dollars CPU has the same FPS as the 10900K 549 dollars CPU in games. Zen 3 is def a better choice and it destroy Intel in workstation stuff. If you still want to go with Intel I still understand but that's just a name at this point.
Agree on all points. Plus having pro-grade thermal compound for a less-than pro-grade CPU cooler is quite a bit ridiculous. And you're not even overclocking at that, waste of money. This would be a much better use of funds:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($449.99)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($228.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1283.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-04 10:52 EST-0500


At least there for the motherboard, CPU, and RAM. Plus you get a 4th gen PCI-E drive as a boot drive. And then reuse all of your existing components as you wish.
 
Agree on all points. Plus having pro-grade thermal compound for a less-than pro-grade CPU cooler is quite a bit ridiculous. And you're not even overclocking at that, waste of money. This would be a much better use of funds:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($449.99)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z63 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($228.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1283.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-04 10:52 EST-0500


At least there for the motherboard, CPU, and RAM. Plus you get a 4th gen PCI-E drive as a boot drive. And then reuse all of your existing components as you wish.
And if we really wanted to shave some money from that and keep the original 970 evo plus at 2TB and change the cooler, ram and board it wouldn't even make a difference.
Only hard thing is finding that 5900X.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($449.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($90.00)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1078.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-04 11:02 EST-0500
 

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We can run around this tree all day long, the coolers will not work in my case. So as I said in post 7 what is a good case and cooler for $300.

And "quite a bit ridiculous" is a bit extreme of a description for buying $5 paste.
 
Your build will work as is.
I have some thoughts:

While the 5000 series ryzens look great, they are sold out. As are the 3000 series graphics cards.

While 4000 speed ram is nice, but not terribly beneficial, if you got it at a good price, good for you.
It is a moot point on your build. Keep it and don't worry.

I9-10900 is a strange selection for a gamer. You can not overclock it despite having a very good Z490 based motherboard.
It will run at stock with a max turbo speed of 5.2 on one core when conditions are right.
The processor comes with a stock air cooler that intel considers as adequate. But to get best turbo out of the processor, a better cooler is in order.
Is there a reason why you do not want air?
Your case has 170mm headroom and you can use any air cooler made.
An air cooler with a 120mm fan will do the job.
It is about the equivalent in cooling as the H60.
Something like a noctua NH-U12s will be simpler to install, be quieter, more reliable, cool about the same.
And... it will never leak.
While aio leaks are uncomon they DO happen.
https://www.google.com/search?q=h60+leak&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwis25WW3rTtAhVSmlkKHW3OCXsQ_AUoAnoECBIQBA&biw=2052&bih=1279

For gaming, you do not need 20 threads.
Most games can effectively only use 4-6 threads.
You have aspirations of 4k gaming with a 3080 graphics card.
At that resolution, the performance of a processor diminishes.
Here is a 3080 review.
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ampere-cpu-scaling-benchmarks
Even the lowly i3-10100 does a decent job at 4k ultra.
I am suggesting that a lesser processor like a i5-10600K or i7-10700K would do the job for you.
 

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And if we really wanted to shave some money from that and keep the original 970 evo plus at 2TB and change the cooler, ram and board it wouldn't even make a difference.
Only hard thing is finding that 5900X.
Only thing to keep in mind is that even though you get 2TB, that 970 Evo is still an older drive. If you want to get the most from the 5900X you need a 4th gen PCI drive, because the X570 chipset takes advantage of the extra PCI-E lanes for blazing fast load times.
 
OK, with a i9-10900K you are about as good as it gets.
But, I think you really do need a better cooler than a H60.

And, since you are interested in a new case, I might suggest the lian li lancool II mesh.
https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-000Z-00063
Here is a review:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-performance-review
The front intakes can be 3 x120 or 2 x 140mm.
I like 140mm since they move a lot of air at lower rpm.
Noctua makes excellent and quiet fans.
You can buy them in speeds from 900 rpm up to real burners at 3000 rpm.
I might pick 1500 rpm like this:
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nf-p14s-redux-1500-pwm/p/N82E16835608065?&quicklink=true

The case supports air coolers up to 176mm.
You can install any cooler you want.
The best would be a noctua NH-D15 or NH-D15s.
They also come in black.
 
Only thing to keep in mind is that even though you get 2TB, that 970 Evo is still an older drive. If you want to get the most from the 5900X you need a 4th gen PCI drive, because the X570 chipset takes advantage of the extra PCI-E lanes for blazing fast load times.
You mean blazing fast difference like this? Not worth the extra money unless you do a lot of files transfer from and to another PCIe 4.0 or the same PCIe 4.0 SSD.

2TB to 1TB for a second.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4
 
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OK, few updates...

The CPU is a K --- i9-10900k, I grabbed it "cheap" a few weeks back.
I got a case new for $49 it is a Corsair Graphite Series 780T Full Tower in Black - person wanted white.
I got a new cooler coming, decided on the Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix <--

I am looking at the RAM now.

And I am sticking with Intel. ~30 years they have never let me down. Same with EVGA nvidia video cards, I will not deviate from them.
 

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Well I am sticking with the RAM I originally selected. NeggEgg ordering system freaked out not once but twice so, oh well.

I will report back once the build is finished.

EDIT: OP edited for the build.
 
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