[SOLVED] New System Build

[peachy_29]

Ok, so I’m currently using my build from 2012/13 which is an i5 2500k, GTX 780 so I can’t use any of the old hardware really.

So far I have bought a Coolermaster H500 case, 16GB of Corsair Vengence LXP 3200 ram and a Samsung 970 pro M2 unit for storage.

I have a 144 hz monitor with G sync and a 1ms response time so only really looking at 1080p, I want the build to be as future proof as possible (Motherboard at least)

mill only be playing games, no work ect, not even browsing, PUBG, the new COD MW and other FPS only really.

so I’ll looking for suggestions for the CPU, GPU and cooler fan (not really wanting to go water / liquid)

the components I have shortlisted are below so please advise if these are ok if you would, it’s been nearly 9 years since I’ve looked into building so I’m assuming I’m well out of the loop.

CPU - Intel i7 9700k or i5 9600k
Motherboard - Gigabyte Auros Pro
GPU - RTX 2060 / 70 Super or GTX 1660ti
Cooler - Dark Rock 4 / Nuctura Nu 14
PSU - Corsair NM x 750
Win 10 - Home 64 bit.

Any feedback / thoughts would be ace.

 

[jeremyj_83]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($333.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($413.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1057.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 08:59 EDT-0400
The Ryzen doesn't need a CPU cooler as the included on is already pretty good, however, if you wanted to get a better one the Artic listed is very good. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cooler,6352.html
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freez...ascsubtag=tomshardware-1176335164381110152-20

In terms of gaming performance the 3700X is basically equal to the 9900k, usually less than 5% difference with a 2080Ti and that will be smaller with less powerful GPU, all while using 1/3 the power. The 5700X is about 5% slower than the 2070 Super, but $100 cheaper, and around 10% faster than the 2060 Super for the same price.

 

[vMax]

As pure gaming build, then the 9700K as it is just about as good as it gets on the gaming front, coupled to the Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Pro or Elite board as it has a very good 12 phase VRM setup. As suggested above the Seasonic Focus Plus Gold as it is a great PSU. The rest of the parts you have are good. The RTX 2070 Super would pretty much guarantee 144Hz at 1080p Ultra/High and allow for headroom in future games. The RX 5700XT would also be a good option and a bit more cost effective...

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4JTWb

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($502.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1192.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 09:36 EDT-0400

With the 5700XT Sapphire Nitro +

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BFHJx6

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($439.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1128.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 09:33 EDT-0400

 

[Finstar]

What's the budget and where are you buying from?

 

[peachy_29]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($333.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($413.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1057.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 08:59 EDT-0400
The Ryzen doesn't need a CPU cooler as the included on is already pretty good, however, if you wanted to get a better one the Artic listed is very good. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cooler,6352.html
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freez...ascsubtag=tomshardware-1176335164381110152-20

In terms of gaming performance the 3700X is basically equal to the 9900k, usually less than 5% difference with a 2080Ti and that will be smaller with less powerful GPU, all while using 1/3 the power. The 5700X is about 5% slower than the 2070 Super, but $100 cheaper, and around 10% faster than the 2060 Super for the same price.

Thanks for the advice pal, I must admit I’m an intel fan boy, I know it doesn’t make sense not to use AMD due to the value for the price but I’ve always been an Intel / NVIDIA guy.

milk have a think though pal, cheers

 

[peachy_29]

As pure gaming build, then the 9700K as it is just about as good as it gets on the gaming front, coupled to the Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Pro or Elite board as it has a very good 12 phase VRM setup. As suggested above the Seasonic Focus Plus Gold as it is a great PSU. The rest of the parts you have are good. The RTX 2070 Super would pretty much guarantee 144Hz at 1080p Ultra/High and allow for headroom in future games. The RX 5700XT would also be a good option and a bit more cost effective...

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G4JTWb

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($502.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1192.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 09:36 EDT-0400

With the 5700XT Sapphire Nitro +

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BFHJx6

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($439.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1128.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 09:33 EDT-0400

Cheers mate, so another that recommends the Seasonic, I’ll take a look pal, nice one

 

[peachy_29]

What's the budget and where are you buying from?

Hi

I’m in the UK and budget isn't really set, I guess £1,400 or so, but seeing as I only now need a motherboard, GPU, CPU, cooler and PSU not sure I need to be spending that much.

I guess something like this ?

£400 GPU
£400 CPU &Cooler
£250 Motherboard
£100 PSU

 

[Finstar]

Hi

I’m in the UK and budget isn't really set, I guess £1,400 or so, but seeing as I only now need a motherboard, GPU, CPU, cooler and PSU not sure I need to be spending that much.

I guess something like this ?

£400 GPU
£400 CPU &Cooler
£250 Motherboard
£100 PSU

You could go with this if you really want to save money, the performance will be nearly identical with the i5-9600k but the cost is much lower.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£180.78 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£106.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card (£498.30 @ Technextday)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.99 @ PC World Business)
Total: £856.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 20:31 BST+0100

Switching the R5 to the i7 9700k would cost around £300 extra.

You could also go all out and switch the 2070 Super for a 2080 Super.

 

[vMax]

Cheers mate, so another that recommends the Seasonic, I’ll take a look pal, nice one

Hi pal, no problems at all...I am in the UK as well and if you need help do not hesitate to reach out...though I live in Staines-Upon-Thames...Ali G forced us to change the name otherwise known as the Staines Massive!

 

[jeremyj_83]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£334.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£132.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card (£693.18 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1291.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-04 13:15 BST+0100

 

[peachy_29]

Classic mate, Ali G is a legend, love his early work on Ian Lees show, the shows name I forget but his early work was incredible.

I’m thinking of going with the i5 9600k as there doesn’t seem to be much of a difference from the i7 9700k to warrant the extra £120 odd, which cooler would you go for on the gigabyte board ?

 

[SgtScream]

If you're an Intel fan boy (which is totally understandable) i'd wait for Intel's next gen product release, because this will be Intels first legitimate counter to Ryzen third gen's recent competitive increase in performance. You've gone this far without rebuilding your computer and now IMHO would be the absolute worst time to purchase Intel. The reason being is Intel is cutting cost by 50% on next gen release and will be the first counter to a long awaited recent competition by AMD in over a decade. As far as core count and recent improvements in cost per core, a single 8 core 8 thread processor will not give you nearly as much longevity as current AMD or future Intel releases for the money. This is primarily due to superior multi-core performance. As far as im concerned the 9700k is going to be the future i5 in the not too distant future.

 

[peachy_29]

If you're an Intel fan boy (which is totally understandable) i'd wait for Intel's next gen product release, because this will be Intels first legitimate counter to Ryzen third gen's recent competitive increase in performance. You've gone this far without rebuilding your computer and now IMHO would be the absolute worst time to purchase Intel. The reason being is Intel is cutting cost by 50% on next gen release and will be the first counter to a long awaited recent competition by AMD in over a decade. As far as core count and recent improvements in cost per core, a single 8 core 8 thread processor will not give you nearly as much longevity as current AMD or future Intel releases for the money. This is primarily due to superior multi-core performance. As far as im concerned the 9700k is going to be the future i5 in the not too distant future.

Again, thanks for your feedback, any idea on how long until these new chips come out ?
Not sure I can keep looking at the ram, case and M2 module in their boxes much longer, lol.

would The Z390 boards support the new gene too our would I need to wait until people have reviewed new ones ?

cheers

 

[SgtScream]

Again, thanks for your feedback, any idea on how long until these new chips come out ?
Not sure I can keep looking at the ram, case and M2 module in their boxes much longer, lol.

would The Z390 boards support the new gene too our would I need to wait until people have reviewed new ones ?

cheers

Very good question. I'm hearing x299 in november which most likely doesn't apply to you and the mainstream processors will require a new platform/socket which MIGHT be released Q1 of next year but definately grain of salt. If there was ever a time to wait, it is now because it will be Intel's first counter to legitimate competition in a very long time and the fact that you game at 1080p 144hz means you'll need intel's IPC to match fps. I just think purchasing an i7 9700k now is a bad decision. IMO if you can squeeze a i9 9900k into your budget then that changes the ball game, but for gaming longevity you'll need hyperthreads. Don't get me wrong the i7 9700k is an excellent processor now, but I doubt it will hold up throughout the years as triple A titles continue to place more demand on new high core/thread count hardware.

The 9700k isn't a bad choice. I Just want you to understand where you stand in regards to the competition timeline between team red and blue.

 

[peachy_29]

Very good question. I'm hearing x299 in november which most likely doesn't apply to you and the mainstream processors will require a new platform/socket which MIGHT be released Q1 of next year but definately grain of salt. If there was ever a time to wait, it is now because it will be Intel's first counter to legitimate competition in a very long time and the fact that you game at 1080p 144hz means you'll need intel's IPC to match fps. I just think purchasing an i7 9700k now is a bad decision. IMO if you can squeeze a i9 9900k into your budget then that changes the ball game, but for gaming longevity you'll need hyperthreads. Don't get me wrong the i7 9700k is an excellent processor now, but I doubt it will hold up throughout the years as triple A titles continue to place more demand on new high core/thread count hardware.

The 9700k isn't a bad choice. I Just want you to understand where you stand in regards to the competition timeline between team red and blue.

I understand pal, my intentions were to buy the i5 9600k now and have the motherboard that would support the i9 so in years to come I could of just slapped the best i9 the Gigbyte board would take, but now a whole new Gen is upon us it does make sense to hold fire.

I guess I could still get the GPU next month (hoping a price drop in Black Friday sales) and then just get the motherboard, CPU and fan in Q1 once the new gem is out.

I assume the ram will still be decent as it’s a good spec I’m lead to believe

 

[vMax]

I understand pal, my intentions were to buy the i5 9600k now and have the motherboard that would support the i9 so in years to come I could of just slapped the best i9 the Gigbyte board would take, but now a whole new Gen is upon us it does make sense to hold fire.

I guess I could still get the GPU next month (hoping a price drop in Black Friday sales) and then just get the motherboard, CPU and fan in Q1 once the new gem is out.

I assume the ram will still be decent as it’s a good spec I’m lead to believe

Intel's next mainstream CPU's will not be out for quiet some time and probably in the latter half of 2020 in 10nm form. In November the High end desktop parts 'Cascade Lake' are releasing, still 14nm++++++++ (add as many plus's as required) with a fairly good 50% or more price cut (Thanks to AMD finally doing a great job with Ryzen) but the whole platform will be more expensive as a X299 or the soon to be released X299X motherboard will also be needed and it helps to have quad channel memory as well...

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/inte...pecifications-10th-generation,news-61790.html

Bottom line you are going to have to wait a long time for the next mainstream Intel parts or jump on cascade lake HEDT...Personally, the 9600K or 9700K and then in the future just drop in a 9900K or 9900KS and you will be fine for 4 to five years of great gaming...I would look to the 9600K and get the very best GPU you can afford as the GPU will make the most difference...

 

[SgtScream]

Intel Comet Lake LGA 1200 Desktop CPU's will be released 1st quarter of 2020 and they will be 14nm.