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scottchen

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Hardwareboss I hate you for being right all the time, I sold my comp with TI4200 again. So now I'm going with Athlon64, This is what I have in mind.

AMD Athlon64 3200+
Gigabyte K8N mobo
2xSeagate Barracuda7200.7 SATA 120G HDD
Adaptec SATA Raid controller
3x512 PC3200 Hynix ram
Video card I was thinking about the Albatron FX5900 since it's only 149CDN.

Speeduk what do you think? after reading a few previews on the Nforce3 250, the fact that it doesn't have a working PCI lock either, I've decided to just go with the Nforce3 150, the Gigabyte board's only 94CDN.

I hate my TI4200.
 
The VIA K8T 800 PRO will have agp/pci lock and most of the NF3 250 should. The gigabyte boards good for clocking though so you cant go wrong with whatever you decide to do. I would wait a while because the VIA boards perform amazing with 1000mhz HT and pci/agp lock = good clocks.

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Do you know when those VIA K8tpro will come out?

I don't think neither of those boards are going to be available for at least a good 3-4 months. So I may just go with a cheap gigabyte, then buy a new board when better ones comes out.

I hate my TI4200.
 
The K8T pro will be available within 1 months time - same goes for the NF3 250. These boards should allow a 3200 (2ghz) A64 to go to 240FSB easy. With some nice memory, thats a VERY powerful setup. Were talking 23,000 3dmarks with a 9800pro @ stock!

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Well my prices for video cards are as following
FX5900 by albatron $149
ATI R9800pro $239
and trust me 199US doesn't convert to 239CDN.

I'm going with the FX5900 because the 9800pro is simply not worthy of the $90 difference.

I hate my TI4200.
 
Okay so far for my overclocking adventure:

This piece of crap mobo has very limited voltage selection, however, when i pump them all to full, CPU at 1.65V the ram seems just warm under load, CPU remains under 43C in P95. Started pumping the frequency bit by bit 'til ram gave in on me, highest i got was 223, since i can't change the ratio of the ram speed, so there's no way I could get higher.

Doesn't really matter, this board is only meant to serve me for a few months, it's under 100CDN, 'til the newer VIA, Nvidia chips mobo.

For those of you out there who's looking for an cheap Athlon64 solution yet performs great, then here's what I would recommend:

Athlon64 3000+
Gigabyte K8N
512mb PC3200 ram Samsung preferably, I got Hynix since that's the only stuff my distributor carries.

This setup will get you 2.2Ghz, and since you're running at 220FSB therefore, say it loudly and proudly, i'm an owner of a 3500+.

I hate my TI4200.
 
A 3000 @ 2.2ghz will be as fast as a 3200 @ stock because it only has half the cache. Hence why I got a 3200.

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Okay another little breakthrough, figured out how to use Gigabyte Easytune 4, it has the ability to change Dram ratio. So I lowered it down now doing prime95 at 220, however have ram running at 184, only reason doing p95 is because i want to see if stock voltage does the job.

I hate my TI4200.
 
My mobo sucks for memory compatability. I cant wait to sell it and get a gig of GeIL PC 4000 ultra.

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PC4000?! are you sure you need that? I'm thinking about the Samsung ram which Kinston uses on their PC4000 series, I have to specially order those Samsung ram, with heatspreader, pump 2.8V through them, they'll do 250mhz. Yet they're priced very low, you can probably get 2x512 of them for the price of a 2x256 PC4000 dual channel kit.

I hate my TI4200.
 
The 2x512 pc 4000 GeIL is cheaper than the normal OCZ 2x512mb PC 3200!

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I decided to get the OCZ 3200 EL-DDR CAS2 as its dirt cheap and should get me to 230fsb which is more or less the max my A64 will do anyway.

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Yeah. Considering my twinmos 3200 did 215 @ cas 2 - I think 220 will be easy and 230 a possibility. I've seen one review where they got it upto 238 on 2.9V cas 2.5!

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OCZ managed to squeeze an amazing 489MHz out of their memory in Dual Channel mode. In single channel mode, over 502MHz was the final reach of the memory.
Click to expand...

So they got it to 251mhz FSB in single channel.

<A HREF="http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=441&dPage=5" target="_new">http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=441&dPage=5</A>


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Well I wont be able to push the fsb until i get a new mobo next month.... Such a long wait.

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By the time i need pci x i will need a new mobo anyway. :)

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