New To Overclocking (i7 - 2700k)

[hiporc]

Hello, I have built my dream pc about 7 months ago, and am ready to over clock. I use programs like after effects and cinema 4d. I would like to over clock my Cpu to the 4.7Ghz area.

Specs:

Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Mobo: MSI MPower Z77
Cpu: Intel i7 - 2700k
Ram: Corsair DDR3 Cl-10 16gb
Cooling: Corsair H100i
Ssd: Samsung pro 256Gb
Hdd: WD Blach 1tb
Psu: XFX 750w Silver
Gpu: Asus Gtx 670 2gb

I would like to know what settings i have to change and why (what they do). I know there are many many other threads on this. If there is a good one you know of please just link it to me. Other wise a list of the settings i have to change. I would like to keep hyper threading on. Thanks for your time!

 

[Tradesman1]

A decent one here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/910467/the-ultimate-sandy-bridge-oc-guide-p67a-ud7-performance-review

http://forums.pureoverclock.com/cpu-overclocking/12386-sandy-bridge-overclocking-guide-5ghz-club.html

 

[hiporc]

A decent one here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/910467/the-ultimate-sandy-bridge-oc-guide-p67a-ud7-performance-review

http://forums.pureoverclock.com/cpu-overclocking/12386-sandy-bridge-overclocking-guide-5ghz-club.html

Thanks, but i am looking for something a little more straight forward. That fourm was a little variant about the c1e stuff...

 

[hiporc]

also is there a way where it goes upto 4.7 automatically say when it needs it and drops down to a lower clock whjen not being stressed?

 

[Tradesman1]

Speedstep basically does that for you, you want to achieve a stable OC with your CPU, then when not required speedstep will step things down - pop up CPU-Z and monitor it while doing things then let all go idle and watch it drop. With the 2700K try just setting it to 4.2 and boot, if it BSODS take the vCore (CPU voltage up a tad (say + 0.01) and try, if good there go to 4.3, and so on...just take things slow

 

[hiporc]

Speedstep basically does that for you, you want to achieve a stable OC with your CPU, then when not required speedstep will step things down - pop up CPU-Z and monitor it while doing things then let all go idle and watch it drop. With the 2700K try just setting it to 4.2 and boot, if it BSODS take the vCore (CPU voltage up a tad (say + 0.01) and try, if good there go to 4.3, and so on...just take things slow

many poeple talk about c1e and vdroop and disabling stuff like intel turbo... do i need to do any of that if i want a 4.7 oc? and im sorry for being a noob, but "BSODS"? Thanks very much for your help!

 

[Tradesman1]

BSOD = Blue Screen of Death - where it crashes at or soon after start, when OCing usually means not enough vCore (CPU voltage)...You can try as I suggested and see how far you can go with that, and read some guides, they'll help with the fine tuning and going higher, otherwise we may be back and forth forever, plus you'll be much happier with the rig and yourself doing it yourself...when you reach a wall hop back out here and ask, explain what you've done and seek opinions for fine tuning

 

[hiporc]

BSOD = Blue Screen of Death - where it crashes at or soon after start, when OCing usually means not enough vCore (CPU voltage)...You can try as I suggested and see how far you can go with that, and read some guides, they'll help with the fine tuning and going higher, otherwise we may be back and forth forever, plus you'll be much happier with the rig and yourself doing it yourself...when you reach a wall hop back out here and ask, explain what you've done and seek opinions for fine tuning

k, thank you

 

[hiporc]

The main question is just all the settings i should know about if i plan to reach 4.7... I will stick with your method, and thanks for all your help!

 

[hiporc]

WAIT! do i do voltage offset or a set voltage!?!?

 

[amuffin]

WAIT! do i do voltage offset or a set voltage!?!?

Offset voltage if you want to run through a lot of trial and error, however your CPU will lower it's voltage at lower clocks (ex: 1.6ghz @1.16v and then 4.7ghz @1.37V. Or fixed which is the easy route, which will run your CPU at a fixed voltage (1.6ghz @1.37V and 4.7ghz @1.37V) regardless of the clock speed.

 

[Tradesman1]

Can go either way, using offset is the way I normally go, less power consumption, but the static/fixed is the way most beginners start out, once comfortablye with the whole concept then might want to play with offset

 

[hiporc]

Can go either way, using offset is the way I normally go, less power consumption, but the static/fixed is the way most beginners start out, once comfortablye with the whole concept then might want to play with offset

how is it more difficult to do offset?

 

[Tradesman1]

Can take longer to find an effective one for a given OC, and with offset, you may think you've hit the wall, when in fact you haven't, take a 3570K, may take very little to move up through 4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 etc maybe just 0.01 or so, then you go to hit 4.6 (or whatever and at 0.05 or what ever 0.02 doesn't, help, 0.04 doesn't do it, then you find it requires a monster leap from the previous

 

[hiporc]

Can take longer to find an effective one for a given OC, and with offset, you may think you've hit the wall, when in fact you haven't, take a 3570K, may take very little to move up through 4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 etc maybe just 0.01 or so, then you go to hit 4.6 (or whatever and at 0.05 or what ever 0.02 doesn't, help, 0.04 doesn't do it, then you find it requires a monster leap from the previous

Im just wondering how it would be harder that a constant voltage... if you are just casually stepping up the voltages with both. How would offset be harder? What i am seeing is that you are saying just random walls in voltages? Why would that be only with offset though?

 

[hiporc]

LAST QUESTION! What voltage should i not exceed if i want this to be a 24/7 over clock? Also what temperature is safe for a 24/7 over clock?

 

[Tradesman1]

Each will be different, best thing is to monitor your temps as you go, I like to keep them in the low to mid 30s, others don't mind low 40s

 

[hiporc]

Each will be different, best thing is to monitor your temps as you go, I like to keep them in the low to mid 30s, others don't mind low 40s

WTF? you using a liquid nitrogen cooler? or at idle? I just wanted to know what voltage i should limit my self to for a 24/7 overclock... and i was reading a different fourm... he said mid 70's would be where you should aim. I just wanted to get a second opinion on that. You say 30? at load right now mine is at 50 stock. Are you sure that is the core temp and not the socket? Ill give you best answer if you can give me a voltage limit and temp limit for a 24/7 OC. Thanks again for your help!

 

[Tradesman1]

At idle, am thinking about 1.26-7 for 4.4-4.5, depending on CPU (your particular CPU, they all differ a little), maybe 1.34-7 for around 4.7/8, vCore tend to jump more after 4.4-4.5

 

[hiporc]

At idle, am thinking about 1.26-7 for 4.4-4.5, depending on CPU (your particular CPU, they all differ a little), maybe 1.34-7 for around 4.7/8, vCore tend to jump more after 4.4-4.5

so 1.4v and 75c a good limit for a 24/7 overclock? higher? lower?

 

[Tradesman1]

I'd like lower but all depends on the rig, no two are alike, I've had rigs where a a client wants say 5 identical systems (component wise) and set up to 4.4 or what ever and all end up with different voltages and temps that vary, everything these day has such tight tolerances, one just can say a magic voltage figure or temp.....sorry 😉

 

[hiporc]

I'd like lower but all depends on the rig, no two are alike, I've had rigs where a a client wants say 5 identical systems (component wise) and set up to 4.4 or what ever and all end up with different voltages and temps that vary, everything these day has such tight tolerances, one just can say a magic voltage figure or temp.....sorry 😉

I know that all chips will vary in how hot they get and how much voltage they will need to be stable. I was just looking for a number i should not cross for both voltage and temperature if i am doing a 24/7 oc. just two plain numbers for both.

 

[Tradesman1]

As stated, depends on the system, there is no set in stone numbers, sorry.....

 

[hiporc]

As stated, depends on the system, there is no set in stone numbers, sorry.....

so you are saying the maximum temperature i should not exceed is steeply different for every processor. and that the voltage i "should" not cross for a 24/7 oc is different for all??? I know that the voltage needed to make a stable oc for each processor is different and that one processor may short our at 95, and another at 105. I was just looking for a boundary. "like dont use more tank 1.***v as that will shorten the life of "most" processors" and "for a 24/7 over clock you dont want your processor to run hotter than **c, because that will also shorten the life for "most" processors."

I know you can't tell me my exact specific numbers for my exact specific processor. The 2700k has been around for ages and many tests have been done on it. Just would like to know a healthy voltage and temp to be running at for a 24/7 oc.

Sorry for being anal and difficult. Im not asking you for a maximum over clock. nor asking what my temps will be if i run it at a certain volt. Im just asking when does it start to get bad for most sandy bridge processors.

Fill in the *'s "Stay below 1.***v, and do not go over **C, if you are doing a 24/7 oc."

Fill that in, and best answer is yours.

 

[amuffin]

Stay below 1.4V (Unless you are on custom watercooling) and do not go over 85-90C, if you are doing a 24/7 oc