Question New to pc building need some insight

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My friend help me out this list together for my first pc build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbCnf9
I want to do Photoshop work, edit videos and play games on. I want a pc I can easily navigate and remove parts from. Haven't bought any of the parts yet, just want to get an opinion on it. My price limit for this is 1500usd. So if anyone has any thoughts or improvements please share them with or edit my list.
 

General Kenobi

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My friend help me out this list together for my first pc build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbCnf9
I want to do Photoshop work, edit videos and play games on. I want a pc I can easily navigate and remove parts from. Haven't bought any of the parts yet, just want to get an opinion on it. My price limit for this is 1500usd. So if anyone has any thoughts or improvements please share them with or edit my list.
Hello there!!
Thats good but it can be better;)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yvZRht
 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($192.23 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($500.00)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1390.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-12 10:36 EST-0500


Ryzen is better for multithreaded tasks like video editing and photoshop (also on par with Intel for gaming).
Wait for GPU stock to normalize so you can actually get a 3000 series card at MSRP.
 
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Now is not a great time to buy a high end pc.

Good graphics cards have been hard to find, and past that, they have been bid up on price way past MSRP.
I don't see that changing any time soon.
Graphics is the most important component for gaming.
One rule of thumb used to be to budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
With today's pricing, that does not apply so well.

On the cpu side, ryzen 5000 series has a new architecture that improves performance per clock by about 20%
Unfortunately, again, the 5000 series processors are out of stock and command more than MSRP.
On the intel side, there is hope. The 11th gen rocket lake processors are due soon; perhaps march.
The Z50- motherboards are already selling.
Rocket lake also is supposedly some 20% faster, clock for clock.
The really good news is that they are initially arriving on the well developed 14nm process and prices are supposed to be able to undercut ryzen 500 as well as being available to buy.
I would wait to see what that brings unless you are urgent to build.

You may want to read this article on Photoshop recommended configurations:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-139/Hardware-Recommendations

On the list from friend, I have a few comments.

You would do much better with a similarly priced I5-10600K processor for both gaming and photoshop.
Here is a gaming review which included 9600K comparison:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review/5

32 gb ram is good, but I think 3600 speed would not cost much more.

Any new build should include a ssd for windows.
A 2tb ssd is what I would look for. Price for Intel or Samung will be in the $200 range.
Any ssd will be 40x faster in random I/O and 4-10x faster sequentially.

On the case. $475 seems waay out of line.
I recently bought a cm HAF XB case:
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-haf-series-atx-desktop/p/N82E16811119265
It is the easiest case ever to work with.
You lift off the top and all of the motherboard is open to you.
It has provision for dvd drives as well as two hot swap bays.
The front supplied 120mm fans will do a decent job of cooling and they can be replaced with 140mm if you ever need more.

CX650m is OK, but I would look for a quality unit with a 10 year warranty like the Seasonic focus 650
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-650-gold-ssr-650fx-650w/p/N82E16817151186
If, in the future, you may want a much stronger graphics card, I would pay $20 more for the 750w version.
Slight overprovisioning is ok, the psu will consume only what power is demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
 

General Kenobi

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($192.23 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($500.00)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1390.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-12 10:36 EST-0500


Ryzen is better for multithreaded tasks like video editing and photoshop (also on par with Intel for gaming).
Wait for GPU stock to normalize so you can actually get a 3000 series card at MSRP.
Thats a great build!! It blows what i had recommended although the sad truth is prices wont normalize dont expect RTX 3070 to be a $500 again thats not gonna happen imo.If its available then its a miracle.
 

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Thats a great build!! It blows what i had recommended although the sad truth is prices wont normalize dont expect RTX 3070 to be a $500 again thats not gonna happen imo.If its available then its a miracle.
Regardless, when stock normalizes you can substitute for an RTX 3060/3060 Ti which would game perfectly fine within the budget.
 

oldcracc

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Now is not a great time to buy a high end pc.

Good graphics cards have been hard to find, and past that, they have been bid up on price way past MSRP.
I don't see that changing any time soon.
Graphics is the most important component for gaming.
One rule of thumb used to be to budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
With today's pricing, that does not apply so well.

On the cpu side, ryzen 5000 series has a new architecture that improves performance per clock by about 20%
Unfortunately, again, the 5000 series processors are out of stock and command more than MSRP.
On the intel side, there is hope. The 11th gen rocket lake processors are due soon; perhaps march.
The Z50- motherboards are already selling.
Rocket lake also is supposedly some 20% faster, clock for clock.
The really good news is that they are initially arriving on the well developed 14nm process and prices are supposed to be able to undercut ryzen 500 as well as being available to buy.
I would wait to see what that brings unless you are urgent to build.

You may want to read this article on Photoshop recommended configurations:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-139/Hardware-Recommendations

On the list from friend, I have a few comments.

You would do much better with a similarly priced I5-10600K processor for both gaming and photoshop.
Here is a gaming review which included 9600K comparison:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review/5

32 gb ram is good, but I think 3600 speed would not cost much more.

Any new build should include a ssd for windows.
A 2tb ssd is what I would look for. Price for Intel or Samung will be in the $200 range.
Any ssd will be 40x faster in random I/O and 4-10x faster sequentially.

On the case. $475 seems waay out of line.
I recently bought a cm HAF XB case:
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-haf-series-atx-desktop/p/N82E16811119265
It is the easiest case ever to work with.
You lift off the top and all of the motherboard is open to you.
It has provision for dvd drives as well as two hot swap bays.
The front supplied 120mm fans will do a decent job of cooling and they can be replaced with 140mm if you ever need more.

CX650m is OK, but I would look for a quality unit with a 10 year warranty like the Seasonic focus 650
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-650-gold-ssr-650fx-650w/p/N82E16817151186
If, in the future, you may want a much stronger graphics card, I would pay $20 more for the 750w version.
Slight overprovisioning is ok, the psu will consume only what power is demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
For what he's doing, it would benefit him to wait for stock to normalize so he can get a Ryzen 5000 and 3000 series GPU (3060/3070/3060 Ti). I wouldn't exactly recommend Intel 11th gen over a Ryzen 7 3rd gen for video editing (but the 32gbs of ram for photoshop isn't a bad idea). Could always spring for a probably used 2080 which might fit the budget (haven't checked eBay prices) if you don't want to wait and that'll still do you just fine as long as you make sure you don't get a heavily abused mining card.
 

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