New vid cards June

In my mind Ati already beat them, Nvidia I heard was using a bridge in their cards for PCI-X -> AGP, Ati isn't using a bridge for PCI-X support so technically Nvidia doesn't have a pure PCI-X card.

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IT's already been stated that ATI would likely beat them by a month or two. Expect the ATI cards end of March beginning of April at the very earliest, likely April/May and expect the nV cards shortly after that, likely May/June.


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erm... dude, sure nVidia card might be slower than ATi with the bridge, but then then people who just want to replace to a next gen card doesn't have to get a new mobo. This is an ADVANTAGE!!!

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Yep, I agree with you there for production and overall sales. But it also depends on what people perceive as being most important.

I just wonder which will prevail, two different cards, one fast PCI one somewhat fast AGP versus the nV all the same card strategy will work best. Could be some production advanatages to nV's strategy, and performance advanatages to ATI's strategy. We shall see, I was looking forward to the possibility of sloting a PCI-EX card into an older mobo (or even the one I have at home, and seeing a duron 1200 with an R423 versus the same card with an XP64-FX53. But I guess that will only happen with the nV solution (although there's always the R420) on a crippled future board that only has AGP.


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i dont plan on upgrading until 3.4Ghz is at the price of 2.4 😛 sooo they better have something that can support my canterwood 😡

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CoolS, yeah I know, that's why I'm waiting for the 939 socket. There's a very short run of the 940, and then there's also a short 754 run, but who knows, they may even have a replacement for the 939 within 6-9 months.


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Heheh, I'm holding out for 939, too. I hope they keep it as long as they did SocketA. Socket A was the best damn thing for people who want to start cheap and upgrade later. The eternal socket, god bless AMD for making it and not switching to something new every 8 months (Ala Intel). I hope their handling of sockets with the 64 bit chips so far has been a hiccup.

Let's see how long this overclocked 2400+ will last me. The alpha versions of the next-gen games seem to run fine on my rig, so I'm not worried. I've certainly gotten my money's worth from this old K7S5A motherboard...

I did buy a 9700 PRO (Well, a FireGL X1 actually, same thing) because I found it for stupid-cheap on ebay though. That'll help the gaming performance a bit when she arrives...

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I've got a 2400+ on a K7S5A as well. Best damn system ever. At least for the price I spent. I put the overclockes bios on it and played with it a bit. What are you stable at? I noticed that windows was getting corrupted and stopped oc'ing after a while. I'm not noticing a hit anyways.

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At 4 Ghz I'll upgrade.

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I think I'll get an AXP 2400+ in early Q3 of this year. It will be a good upgrade from my Duron 1 GHz (oc'ed at 1.13).

My big upgrade will be in late 2005. I want mature K8 platform, PCI-Ex, BTX (SATA-II and DDR-II if possible) in my next big upgrade.

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The Xp2400+ is a nice processor for the money. I just got a $75 retail XP2400+ and an $81 retail XP2500+ in the mail today. Hard to beat.

I never tried to OC with a K7S5A before though.

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I'm rock-solid stable with a 143 Mhz front side bus... I haven't gone farther than that. But it's only been stable since I got a raidmax scorpio case... all those lovely fans, plus one or two I added myself, really helped overclocking this mofo. Stability is 100%.

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I have nForce2 (ABIT NF7 v2.0) and DDR333. Overclocking a 266 MHz FSB processor is no problem for me

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I can't remember how far I pushed it. I just remember it benching better than a 3000+ in Sandra.

I'm in the process of making my PC silent. I'm down to just the HSF as the only fan in the case and I want to replace the stock one with something better. I won't OC with this thing. At the point I need something better I'll just buy a new machine most likely.

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Athlon XP 2400+ @ 143*15 = 2150 MHz rock solid on Asus A7N8X Deluxe with stock cooling. Push it more once I get a new cooler.

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I'm pretty sure I went to 147Mhz so that was probably my problem.

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Fire GL X1 eh? Hmmm Jealous!

Well yeah the 939 looks attractive to me.

Run dual DDR400 for the first little while then move up. Start with an FX53 (first chip offered for 939) then upgrade later. I'm just going to be sure to get a board with PCI-EX and that new (well a few months old) level 5 SATA raid. Two things I will look for are, the RS480's integrated DX9 graphics (likely as powerful as the FX5200, but it will hopefully allow for SurroundView by then). It will also allow video while messing with the Cards (a few times I've missed having a PCI card or onboard [been having a few issues iwth W98 trying to update review {may skip 98}]). So that would be nice, also I would like DUAL BIOS, I have really enjoyed it on this Gigabyte Rig.

MY Dream, an RS480 based Gigabyte goard, that can compete with the VIA solution (which currently outpaces the nF3).

I just hope that the 939 I want arrives by the time the R423 or NV40PCX arrive.


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BTX, SATA-II, and DDRII (and likely PCI-EX Graphics X32) will be the upgrade after next.

I have a feeling that the early DDRII and SATAII will encounter similar issues as in the past, and that will mean nothing mature until at least X-mas, likely 12+ months from now.


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DualBIOS... yeah, I had a gigabyte once that didn't have that. They had this hotflash utility that flashed your BIOS from inside windows! Absolutely killed the machine. I couldn't believe they'd release software like that without it being 100%.

Dualbios would've saved my ass.


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