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I've always built my systems in the past, but the last system I built was like 5 years ago,
and it did very well for my needs, and then my current computer which is an HP 1600n and it
really SUCKS! It was given to me a few months ago, so I can't really complain about
what I spent on it. 😉 However, the wasted time and frustration with this computer,
has set back my productivity in many ways.

Anyway - it's time for a new computer, I have tried replacing ram 3 times, with Kingston,
generic brand, and no 2 sticks ever work together - only 1 Memory stick is recognized,
at any given time, and the motherboard only accepts 1 GB sticks, which makes everything
run SLOWWWLY - constant freezing, Premiere Pro won't even anymore.

I'm tired of trying to upgrade and troubleshoot this computer, and I'm just done dealing with it,
I have some projects that I'm working on now, and they involve video editing, as well as an overall
very well functioning computer that will not freeze and in turn slow me down.

I am looking for an overall well functioning computer that will perform when I multi task,
and will handle all tasks I throw at it quickly.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: NOW

Budget: $1500 - $2000 MAX

Country of Origin: Canada

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Video Editing with Adobe Premiere Pro CS5, Photoshop and other office applications.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Doesn't matter, willing to order online, or purchase at a
retail store. The quicker I can get my hands on a system the better.

PARTS PREFERENCES:
I need to have a Quad Core system, I'm looking into an i7 930,
6 GB - 12 GB RAM

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I have a Samsung 323T - Currently i'ts running at 1280 x 768 -
I know I may need a true 1080p monitor, and will upgrade IF I have to, I really like my 32" screen now.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I am looking at a few options right now.

Option 1 Now - UPDATED list:

The build has been purchased!
I have some final research to finalize, and it's in regards to upgrading to a better card now, instead of upgrading later. Considering a GTX 470 or a 5870 card, since they're around a $50 difference.

The GTX 470 seems to run way too hot - but is a way better performer than the 5850.

i7 930 + ASUS P6X58D-E

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB 1600c7

120 GB SSD OCZ Vertex Series - Boot Drive

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 TB

ZOTAC GeForce GTS 250

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX ( If I upgrade - I'll need 750w )

NH-D14 Cooler + 2 x 140mm Noctua NF-P14 Exhaust fans + 120mm rear fan - will get 2 x 120mm fans for front intake.

Samsung DVD Burner

CM 690 II Advanced

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Additional Notes:

Gaming is not that important to me on the PC as I have an Xbox 360, along
with a 47" 1080p LCD where all the gaming is done in the basement, plus,
these days, I don't really have time to play games.

My time is better spent working, and taking care of my family.

Although it'll be nice to play games on it once in a while, this will NOT be the primary focus
for this computer.

My main focus is to have a powerful Computer that can chew through all tasks I throw at it,
where I can do video editing without a hitch, with room to grow and expand if needed.

Any suggestions, feedback, and opinions on which option I should go with are welcomed.

...........

Whoa, sorry about all this info guys, I am doing thorough research right now, as I need to get
my hands on a new system asap.

Thanks in advance!
 
See what I mean?!

INTEL 930/X58, for YOU (CS5, Premiere - now!) ... Athlon-II for me (so I can have a dedicated HTPC/DAW, in 18~24 months, as WELL as a big/noisy render engine.).

So ... ASUS X58 (P6TxD-E)
i7-930 for Socket 1366
Megahalems sink w Noctua fans (expensive) ... or the ~$75 Noctua cooler.
*** Arctic Silver MX-2 thermal paste and proper cooler screws ... yikes!)
G.Skill P 1600c7 x 6GB DDR3
Zotac 250
Intel 80GB G2 SSD
One (or more) Spinpoint F3 (1TB) HDDs
ASUS or SAMSUNG SATA DVDR (Yes to LightScribe ... fer two bucks).
Corsair 650TX
Case of choice (HAF 922 or Antec 300 >>"Illusion"<<)
One extra "slim" SATA cable with right-angled latching connector ($3 .. DVDR)
Win7-64Pro (must be pro).
Possibly may need video adapters or cables ... depends on what you have or get.

... I'll get links, if you can't find ... The cooler screws might require a new thread but, most folks end up going to the hardware store (with their parts) and just suss it out.

See how much of all that stuff you can round-up and I'll check the links and be sure of the correct "sub-models" and versions, as well as helping you find any necessary alternatives (in stock) ... before the weekend is out ... if I survive.

= Al = I will also end up with such a rig ... but I want TWO rigs (silent recording/low-pwr silent HTP/SURF) ... PLUS ... (2) A screaming meanie, like your build.

 
Ok great - I will check out these links when I get back in - I gotta run some errands for the wifey. 😉

I already picked up this case:
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel

Is that going to be fine?
 
dangit !! ... seems like some of those links do not work !! I'll paste the descriptions.

ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $249.99

G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI
$188.99 (Canadian)

Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler $59.99 CAD

Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 - $298.99

ZOTAC ZT-20109-10P GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 $134.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI $159.99 -$50.00 Instant $109.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
$29.99 CAD

You have a case ... It should be equal to the CoolerMaster HAF-922 @ $100 CAD.

You get 2 free cables (DVDR+HDD) with Mobo ... this is for your SSD (hook to SATA3)

OKGEAR 18" SATA 6 Gbps Cable, Straight to Right Angle W/Metal Latch, Silver, Backward Compatible with 3 Gbps and 1.5 Gbps - OEM ~$3

This adapter (and a "regular" HDMI cable of appropriate length).


SABRENT AD-RTHD DVI Male to HDMI Female Video Rotating Adapter $8.99
(I'll try to link)

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156021&cm_re=hdmi_DVI_adapter-_-12-156-021-_-Product

Nippon Labs Premium High Performance HDMI Cable v1.3 10 ft. HDMI TO HDMI Cable A/V Gold Plated for 1080P cable HDTV Cable PS3 Cable and Xbox 360 Cable
$8.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816003&cm_re=hdmi_cable_10-_-12-816-003-_-Product

= Al =
 
Alrighty - thanks for the feedback again...

I am now looking at the following:

Mobo Options - We'e sticking with x58 - 1366

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 - $279.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422&Tpk=x58%20ud5

Asus - P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 - $249 FREE shipping
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131641

ASUS P6TD Deluxe LGA - No USB 3.0 - $289

ASRock X58 Extreme 3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157189

Processor will be i7 930 vs i7 860

Doing some further research on that. :)
 
cool - thanks - I'm sure you meant UD5 - or did you really mean UD3?

This guy is also a contender:

ASUS P6X58D Premium - wonder what the major diferences are with the P6X58D-E
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614

Supports Intel Turbo Boost Technology
Dual 10/100/1000Mbps
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x8/x8 or x16/x16/x1 mode)

This also looks like a very solid board: ASUS P6TD Deluxe

Time to read more and more reviews 😉
 
Alvin,

You are a shining beacon of intellgience and guidance on these fourms.

I wish every member here was a little bit more like you, including myself.

That said, the double/triple posts are realy realy pissing me off, find the godamn edit button!

Jeez!
 

LOL

Bob is nice entertainment for the forum (keeps things lively or keeps the Mod's on their toes the most??).... He reminds me a little of Badge to a point but Badge is actually very useful in the forum's he visits to help.
 
Thanks again Alvin,

I've been reading up on the UD3 vs UD5 and there are only slight differences.

However, the reviews on the UD3 are very inconsistent, and a lot of people have had
problems with it, having DOA boards, other malfunctioning features, etc, etc
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423

http://www.overclockers.com/forums//showthread.php?t=644710

I am reading lots of reviews right now, I like many others have come down to:
GA-X58A-UD5 vs ASUS P6X58D Premium

I typed that into google, and there are quite a few pros / cons for both :)

.....

@Bob - you ask Alvin not to double post - and then you triple post? :kaola:

Alvin can post how ever many times he wants since his posts are so useful, can't say the same for all those who double and triple post in this thread - yeah - ur posts have been extremely helpful to me - THANK YOU - oh wait.... all they've done is taken this thred OT, and wasted valuable space...

Having said that, can we please stay on topic?

I am buying this build this week, and have some important decisions to make.
 
Well, kg, ... It comes down to stats (owner reviews) ... I stand by the UD3 for it's price.
... We have been "pushing it" ever since I got here and VERY few issues that could not be traced to "builder inexperience" ... Tho, I'd go with the P6-E, for lane allocation and layout reasons.

= Al =

Hey, BoB ? ... Don't worry ! You will make "Addict", by next month, even if you DO NOT continue with these flurries of inane and unhelpful posts ... it IS good to see you, tho ... being my "points twin" ... and all. CLASS of JULY 2010 RULES !!!

= espresso addict =
 
Thanks Al,

Right now, I'm looking beyond the price while staying under $300, although the UD3 has nice savings, it won't overclock as well as the UD5, according to some users who owned both. One user got his i920 to 4.2 GHZ on the UD5, which he was never able to do on the UD3.

The cons with the Asus are that you can not raid from the Sata ports, but I don't see myself having 2 SSD drives in raid, so that issue doesn't really apply to me.

Asus P6X58D Premium owners are quite pleased with their boards and tend to be more hardcore users.

I will continue doing more research on the topic.

The only differences I found between the -E & the premium are:

Supports Intel Turbo Boost Technology
Dual 10/100/1000Mbps
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x8/x8 or x16/x16/x1 mode)

I'm sure there are more, but I haven't done thorough research yet.

Thanks again, and double and triple post all you want!
 
^^ Lolz now an Intel build...
I couldnt agree more with Alvin's suggestions on the parts for the i7 930...

And the main differences between the -E & the premium -
-> -E doenst have eSATA ports
-> -E has only 1 LAN port.
Apart from these, those boards are pretty identical...
 


Well, just to be fair ...

Bob has taught me two things (that I value) ...

(1) The 435 (now 440) is a truly decent "go-to" chip, for budget builds.

(2) He also brought me his report, from his "camp-out", over on the graphics forum and his full summary was ... "Yeah ... 470/480 use a LOT of power, but heat is not really a problem, for them, and they are not nearly as noisey as some folks have claimed.

... Ta-dahhhh. Hard to say if it has been worth the price (ahem), but I look at any "value add" as progress ... And ... I have certainly done my share of obnoxious stuff (dot-dot-dot).

= Al =
 


Plus - the premium...

Supports Intel Turbo Boost Technology
3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x8/x8 or x16/x16/x1 mode)