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I'm a former private pilot who had to quit due to the expense and used to
fly a C-172 and occasionally a Mooney 201. What a thrill to load up FS2004
and fly a DC-3, my dream airplane that I knew I would never get to fly in
real life. As I've been boring holes in FS sky I have come up against a
couple of questions and am hoping someone out there has some answers to.
1. The 747-400 seems to have a pretty rapid roll rate in FS. Is that true
in real life. Somehow I imagined something much more mushy.

2. I can't seem to get a decent glide slope intercept on autopilot. Have
tried with all the Boing Aircraft. Have approached slope from below with AP
on and NAV on. Tracks the localizer just fine but doesn't do real well
with the GS. Have tried dropping the wheels at intercept but all it get are
very low responses that end up in either a stall or a crash.

3. When using pushback, the documentation doesn't seem to say whether to
use the numeric keypad 1,2 for turning or the regular keyboard 1,2. Neither
seem to do anything. If keypad, does numlock have to be on?

Running XP pro, FS2004, Logitec Attack 3 joystick. No add ons.
 
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Afraid only know the answer for one question.

Pushback by pressing 'shift p' then immediately press 1 for rear to turn to
the left or 2 for right on the normal number keys. The aircraft will be
pushed back for a short period to allow clearance from other parked planes.
Small planes like the Cessna should turn quite quick but longer ones like
747 will have a longer pushback beofre the aircraft begins turning.

Hope this helps

Chris


"John Jung-Zimmerman" <jungzimm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm a former private pilot who had to quit due to the expense and used to
> fly a C-172 and occasionally a Mooney 201. What a thrill to load up
> FS2004
> and fly a DC-3, my dream airplane that I knew I would never get to fly in
> real life. As I've been boring holes in FS sky I have come up against a
> couple of questions and am hoping someone out there has some answers to.
> 1. The 747-400 seems to have a pretty rapid roll rate in FS. Is that
> true
> in real life. Somehow I imagined something much more mushy.
>
> 2. I can't seem to get a decent glide slope intercept on autopilot. Have
> tried with all the Boing Aircraft. Have approached slope from below with
> AP
> on and NAV on. Tracks the localizer just fine but doesn't do real well
> with the GS. Have tried dropping the wheels at intercept but all it get
> are
> very low responses that end up in either a stall or a crash.
>
> 3. When using pushback, the documentation doesn't seem to say whether to
> use the numeric keypad 1,2 for turning or the regular keyboard 1,2.
> Neither
> seem to do anything. If keypad, does numlock have to be on?
>
> Running XP pro, FS2004, Logitec Attack 3 joystick. No add ons.
>
>
 
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For question 2...

You have to set the autopilot to APPR mode. It will not intercept the
glideslope in NAV mode.



"John Jung-Zimmerman" <jungzimm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130qt5rlsdjb4c@corp.supernews.com...
> I'm a former private pilot who had to quit due to the expense and used to
> fly a C-172 and occasionally a Mooney 201. What a thrill to load up
FS2004
> and fly a DC-3, my dream airplane that I knew I would never get to fly in
> real life. As I've been boring holes in FS sky I have come up against a
> couple of questions and am hoping someone out there has some answers to.
> 1. The 747-400 seems to have a pretty rapid roll rate in FS. Is that
true
> in real life. Somehow I imagined something much more mushy.
>
> 2. I can't seem to get a decent glide slope intercept on autopilot. Have
> tried with all the Boing Aircraft. Have approached slope from below with
AP
> on and NAV on. Tracks the localizer just fine but doesn't do real well
> with the GS. Have tried dropping the wheels at intercept but all it get
are
> very low responses that end up in either a stall or a crash.
>
> 3. When using pushback, the documentation doesn't seem to say whether to
> use the numeric keypad 1,2 for turning or the regular keyboard 1,2.
Neither
> seem to do anything. If keypad, does numlock have to be on?
>
> Running XP pro, FS2004, Logitec Attack 3 joystick. No add ons.
>
>
 
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I have found the plane doesn't turn unless I have contacted the ground
controller for clearance to taxi. Then, I use the progressive scan feature
to see which way the plane should turn. From then on, pushing 1 for the
tail of the plane to turn to the pilot's left and 2 to turn to the pilot's
right, usually happens. If I don't follow this procedure, the plane pushes
right back into someone's garden. Of course, I don't guarantee
results.....I'm not Sears. Good Luck. : )

Arthur

"Lakeview Bill" <bdentonchi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ha%Xd.11606$kw6.5327@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> For question 2...
>
> You have to set the autopilot to APPR mode. It will not intercept the
> glideslope in NAV mode.
>
>
>
> "John Jung-Zimmerman" <jungzimm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1130qt5rlsdjb4c@corp.supernews.com...
>> I'm a former private pilot who had to quit due to the expense and used to
>> fly a C-172 and occasionally a Mooney 201. What a thrill to load up
> FS2004
>> and fly a DC-3, my dream airplane that I knew I would never get to fly in
>> real life. As I've been boring holes in FS sky I have come up against a
>> couple of questions and am hoping someone out there has some answers to.
>> 1. The 747-400 seems to have a pretty rapid roll rate in FS. Is that
> true
>> in real life. Somehow I imagined something much more mushy.
>>
>> 2. I can't seem to get a decent glide slope intercept on autopilot.
>> Have
>> tried with all the Boing Aircraft. Have approached slope from below with
> AP
>> on and NAV on. Tracks the localizer just fine but doesn't do real well
>> with the GS. Have tried dropping the wheels at intercept but all it get
> are
>> very low responses that end up in either a stall or a crash.
>>
>> 3. When using pushback, the documentation doesn't seem to say whether to
>> use the numeric keypad 1,2 for turning or the regular keyboard 1,2.
> Neither
>> seem to do anything. If keypad, does numlock have to be on?
>>
>> Running XP pro, FS2004, Logitec Attack 3 joystick. No add ons.
>>
>>
>
>
 
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:35:38 +0000 (UTC), "Chris"
<chris@mwapartnership.co.uk> wrote:

>Pushback by pressing 'shift p' then immediately press 1 for rear to turn to
>the left or 2 for right on the normal number keys. The aircraft will be
>pushed back for a short period to allow clearance from other parked planes.
>Small planes like the Cessna should turn quite quick but longer ones like
>747 will have a longer pushback beofre the aircraft begins turning.

I usually look out of the side or side/rear window when doing a push
back. Whether using a large or small aircraft I find that one of these
views gives me a good enough sight of what's going on outside.

I'm also unsure about about John's first question. It seems to me that
the aircraft will fly straight and level until it intcercepts the
localizer. When the localizer is intercepted the plane plunges quite
abruptly. I'd guess that some alteration to the *.cfg (maybe) file
would make this plunge into more of a pleasant swoop. Alternatively,
my going into a gentle decent before the interception might help.

James
 
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Thank you for all the help. I've often left requests on other newsgroups
and never gotten so many responses this quickly. I'll definitely be lurking
here more often. I guess my problem with the push back came from thinking
that the key 1 and key 2 would work like the rudder pedal steering. I
hadn't waited long enough for them to work. I got a little better response
from the glide slope intercept on autopilot by not hitting the intercept at
40 knots over approach speed; but it still seems to get into over-correcting
and ending up with stall or dive. Should I have the auto-throttle on with
the IAS set at approach speed?. Sorry about indicating I had NAV selected
on the A/P. I did have APP selected.

Thanks again,

John
 
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:41:26 -0500, "John Jung-Zimmerman"
<jungzimm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thank you for all the help. I've often left requests on other newsgroups
>and never gotten so many responses this quickly. I'll definitely be lurking
>here more often. I guess my problem with the push back came from thinking
>that the key 1 and key 2 would work like the rudder pedal steering. I
>hadn't waited long enough for them to work.

Yup. I might be wrong but it seems to me that the plane reverses by
its own length and only then begins the 90 degree turn (1 = left turn
& 2 = right turn). I have no idea whether or not the plane reverses a
greater distance if an obstacle is in the way. It probably just
crashes which is why I peer sideways and backwards (if possible) to
check for obstructions before I push back.

James
 
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Even better, use the 'spot view'. Then you can see the whole area and wave
to the passengers. Makes them feel a whole lot better : )

Arthur

"James Hodson" <jUNDERSCOREhodson@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:41:26 -0500, "John Jung-Zimmerman"
> <jungzimm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thank you for all the help. I've often left requests on other newsgroups
>>and never gotten so many responses this quickly. I'll definitely be
>>lurking
>>here more often. I guess my problem with the push back came from thinking
>>that the key 1 and key 2 would work like the rudder pedal steering. I
>>hadn't waited long enough for them to work.
>
> Yup. I might be wrong but it seems to me that the plane reverses by
> its own length and only then begins the 90 degree turn (1 = left turn
> & 2 = right turn). I have no idea whether or not the plane reverses a
> greater distance if an obstacle is in the way. It probably just
> crashes which is why I peer sideways and backwards (if possible) to
> check for obstructions before I push back.
>
> James