Discussion Next Generation Console Gaming

[FurryVengence]

Now I know its still early, and what we know for the most part remains rumor. However what has been discussed leads to some interesting talking points. If whats rumored about the specs not only will console gaming be the most affordable option, it maybe nearly as competitive as most mid-rage gaming pcs arguably cheaper too.

If 12 TFLOPS graphics cards are capable and in 499 consoles, that would out class even the 2080 SUPER of this generation. What is your take on these developments? Do you think i this is true, we will see a decline in people gaming on PC even further?

 

[Eximo]

This always happens (Also, not sure you can expect the price to stay super low, could be they are eating the cost of the console like Nintendo and making it up in accessories) The consoles are designed and developed years in advance with a target in mind. By the time they release, well what do you know, the mid-range PC target has moved on about two years. Also depends on what you consider mid-range.

If we are still talking 1080p 60FPS, then even low end GPUs have been able to do that for a while. If we are saying 1080p 144hz is the new mid-range, well we have a whole other discussion. Or is the mid-range 1440p at 60hz? 'Mid-range' GPUs available now are certainly capable of that.

These new consoles are aimed at 4K 60FPS gaming, so while they will make decent entry level 4K systems, they will be overkill for 1080p. But they go for consistency, not raw performance. Just as the early releases of the PS4 and XBone were looked at in the same way. Every console launch is a PC killer, a few years later, every PC is a console killer. Just keeps cycling back and forth.

It will be an impressive system to be sure, but technology marches further. Typically you will also have power/cost models inbetween. This generation we had the Pro and the X for 4K support, so I wouldn't put it past them to have those be the launch price.

I suspect an intermediate launch for high refresh gaming consoles since that is starting to bleed into the TV space.

 

[Gam3r01]

We see it every generation, an impressive paper number that really means nothing in the long run.
Sure it may have solid TFLOP performance, but games dont rely heavily on Floating Point computation.

Its become a mainstream way for companies to spread to the public "Look: Our number is bigger! That means buy it now!"

 

[FurryVengence]

This always happens (Also, not sure you can expect the price to stay super low, could be they are eating the cost of the console like Nintendo and making it up in accessories) The consoles are designed and developed years in advance with a target in mind. By the time they release, well what do you know, the mid-range PC target has moved on about two years. Also depends on what you consider mid-range.

If we are still talking 1080p 60FPS, then even low end GPUs have been able to do that for a while. If we are saying 1080p 144hz is the new mid-range, well we have a whole other discussion. Or is the mid-range 1440p at 60hz? 'Mid-range' GPUs available now are certainly capable of that.

These new consoles are aimed at 4K 60FPS gaming, so while they will make decent entry level 4K systems, they will be overkill for 1080p. But they go for consistency, not raw performance. Just as the early releases of the PS4 and XBone were looked at in the same way. Every console launch is a PC killer, a few years later, every PC is a console killer. Just keeps cycling back and forth.

It will be an impressive system to be sure, but technology marches further. Typically you will also have power/cost models inbetween. This generation we had the Pro and the X for 4K support, so I wouldn't put it past them to have those be the launch price.

I suspect an intermediate launch for high refresh gaming consoles since that is starting to bleed into the TV space.

I hope we see higher refresh rate TVS soon for the normal consumer market. And I feel like for at least the last three generations PCs have still been ahead at the launch of whatever was considered best console at the time. With the last major difference I feel being the PlayStation & N64. Which at their respective launch dates I feel had PCs beat at least at the cost per performance ratio.

Since then I feel like you could find a decent PC at similar price point, definitely with PC coming out on top. I'd love to see things change for console gamers. Getting a low cost 4K capable pc you don't have to worry about for 450- 500 I think would make for some positive waves in the pc hardware space. But you do bring up a point of companies would have to EAT costs to make that happen. And these days companies seem less and less likely to do that. Curious to hear more in the summer months of 2020 when I suspect both companies will start showcasing more and more. (I assume ahead of e3) and most likely a november 2020 release date.

 

[Eximo]

Already a few high refresh rate panels on the market, some G-sync and FreeSync displays. New consoles are supposedly going to support 4K 120hz via HDMI 2.1, but it remains to be seen if any games will be low end enough for that to actually happen, or matter. I imagine most game developers will aim for 60hz since that will be fairly universal. Still, another holiday round for the TV industry as well, might be more then you think. Would be wise for them to setup companion high refresh rate TVs for console gaming to get in on the sales.

Well, they have the capability to reduce the upfront cost. They have subscription services, accessories, game licensing rights, etc to make up the gap. So selling each console at a loss and waiting for a return on all the purchases over the next several years is perfectly acceptable to Sony and Microsoft, they have the capital to absorb it.