No AGP Support in Alderwood and Grantsdale?

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I honestly never expected them to support it...they want to make this transition as fast as possible, why, I do not know.

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They'll probably still support floppy drives though. Retarded.

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Think about people who have spent $300 for their AGP graphics card

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dhlucke

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I'm for them getting rid of the AGP slot if better tech is out. I just think it's time to get rid of the floppy as well.

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Crashman

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You guys said I was lying when I mentioned this a month ago. And you said I was lying about ATI and nVidia dropping AGP support for their top end cards in another year. Gawd you guys suck.

By this time next year your old card won't fit your new board, the best cards won't fit your old board, and DDRII will insure that many people will have to replace their whole system rather than upgrade. Go ahead, tell someone to call me a liar again.

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Your pants are on fire :)

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One more reason to go with the Athlon64 for those of us who've invested in a decent 3d card...

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HA! Prove it! Got a link? I can show a picture that proves my pants are NOT of fire! LOOSER!!!


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Crashman

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Uh, why? You don't seem to understand, PCI-Express will be on A64 boards as well.

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Crashman

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Now I just need a link to one of the sites that say nVidia and ATI plan to move their highest end cards exclusively to PCI-Express.

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I could work I suppose but there really isn't much to do.

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Crashman

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Yes, I think the best points are:
1.) If you want to upgrade to the best video cards next year, you'll need PCI-Express
2.) If you get a PCI-Express board, you might not be able to use your old card.

Therefore your best off to upgrade both at once. And that pretty much makes all current boards obsolete. Which goes toward my point that if you're building now, you should build FOR now, and forget about "futureproofing" your system.

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Hey I didn't say you were lying!

I expected this. Sure you will have mobo makers make legacy products for AGP users for the next year, but that will disappear quickly too.

BTW, you're a liar! :tongue:

You won't <b>HAVE</b> to upgrade your system, but if you want to be cutting edge you won't have any other choice. I'm sure my current system would run everything thrown at it until at least 2006, but I would likely be doing it slower and with lower resolution/options than most. So does that make you a liar or just someone who overstated his case? :tongue:


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Now I just need a link to one of the sites that say nVidia and ATI plan to move their highest end cards exclusively to PCI-Express.

Xbit had that article. I'm sure it's in their news section somewhere.

Yes, I think the best points are: ....

Yeah exactly, why do you think I've been saying wait for the Socket 939 solution from AMD. PCI-EX, plus it's the future of AMD64. And then I'lll be able to add my long awaited pci-ex card. :cool:


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Crashman

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Overstated...I believe I said something like "If you want the best video card next year you'll HAVE TO upgrade your board". I like conditional statements :smile:

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Yeah, I just thought I'd pull your leg because you know how serious errr.. furious I am.

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The R400 is supposed to be AGP 8x, R423 is supposed to be PCI-E.

But also remember that most PCI-E boards will probably be the BTX style. That means new cases and new power supplies as well as new sound cards, NICs, modems, memory...

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I wonder how available OEM and do-it-yourself parts will be initially. The BTX windtunnels look a bit more complex than ATX systems. Dude, I need a Dell.
 

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ATI is one of the few chipset companies along with Intel that has a native PCI-ex chip. Nvidia along with others have a bridge chip. My guess is that Nvidia wants AGP as long as possible as thier chip matches that thought. While ATI and Intel want a swift transition to pci-ex.

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What's an R400? You are missinformed sir, there is no R400 anymore. It's the R420 (thus the R42X in most of my posts), but thanks for the info.

As for the rest, what do you think I'm going to pass up the opportunity to build a whole new rig? And no the initial boards are likely going to be ATX first, with BTX to follow. But still it's of little import, easy to get a server supply currently availible, and currently in some people's rigs, with either EPS12V or CF12V connectors. Hopefully there will be more with adjustable PSU fans, and blinky LEDs and maybe made out of acrylic to show you really mean business.

NICs are integrated and all PCI NICs should work fine with ethose motherboards, modem what's that?, and memory for the 939 is the whole reason for waiting, unregistered DDR400 like what I CURRENTLY have.

So no need for all this new stuff you speak of; I simply WANT new stuff. Why run with what was top of the line 14 montsh ago or even 6mths ago when you can get all new stuff?

Who needs Corsair XMS PC3200 when you can have low latency PC4000 with blinky LEDs. WooHoo!


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